posted March 12, 2010 11:22 AM            

he & lack of energy???....like krazzy!!!....in fact,em the lazy bum(4 fire planets conjunct nnode)& he's the one who keeps breezing through d street & in the house...but he's not an enthusiastic person...very calm,composed.......blah blah....

ive alzheimer like symptoms:
extreme foregetfulness!!...
i forget words/spellings of simple ones like "gentle"/what i was gonna say in the middle of a convo...
thrice,i forgot my name...loollzz...
i once went to the kitchen to put a spoon for wash. when i returned i realised that i threw the remote in the dustbin & was still holding the spoon...
& no, i don't hve dyslexia/dysparxia/attention deficiency

em a strong fire & earth person & he's a strong earth & air person.
my jupe,pluto & mc are in scorpio & jupe rules those 4 planets.

posted March 12, 2010 12:49 PM            

I have earth-free natal chart..
And all my chart divided equally water-air-fire..
As personal;I never care money for picking up of course I buy everything what I want and then I look at my pocket and see little money thank to god;money always attracts to me (sagg ASC and placement)
I dont like rationalism,it hurts me..I dont know this because of water placement..Logical persons always repel me,I run when they talk with to much rationalism because I belive in idealism(fire elements )
I love my natal chart..My mother(virgo) and my father(taurus) are earths and I can not stand their rational world about money,home,finance etc..
Again my scorpio placements help me to balance about this dreamy Changchiu,it help to live in real world..
And of course We gave to eart people to honour about their practicality and standing world..
But I dont know Why I dont attract..Otherwise I run

posted March 12, 2010 02:05 PM            

starkiss,

do you have the strong 3D visualization ability that corresponds with Dyslexia. Thinking mainly in pictures?

* Creativity
* 3 dimensional thinking
* Seeing the 'whole picture'
* Pictorial thinking
* Divergent thinking
* Problem solving
* Making unexpected connections http://brainhe.com/students/types/dyslexia.html

Neurodivergent conditions like Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD,Autistic Spectrum have a mixture of strengths and weaknesses. They tend to be connected to each other.
For instance the strong visual thinking of Dyslexics interfere with their langauge processing. It's like the right hemisphere is interfering with the left hemisphere.
That's something that I try to raise awareness of. Too many people focus on the weaknesses that they have and overlook the strengths that they do have.

Strengths of other neurodivergences:

Positive aspects of dyspraxia

Most books and web sites on dyspraxia focus on difficulties. Dyspraxic people often have strengths as well, such as:

* Creativity
* Determination
* Motivation
* Strategic thinking
* Problem-solving http://brainhe.com/students/types/dyspraxia.html

ADHD is part of what might be called ‘neurodiversity’. Its indicators can overlap with dyslexia in respect of lack of concentration and difficulties with personal organisation. On the other hand, there are said to be some potential advantages of this kind of brain:

* Ability to see the ‘big picture’
* Being creative and inventive
* Ability to focus intensely for a time
* High levels of energy
* Risk-taking can lead to discoveries
* Being intuitive http://brainhe.com/students/types/ADHDstaff.html

Another thing is that these neurodivergent connections overlap with each other. They share some traits/symptoms. Most neurodivergents have more than 1 neurodivergent condition. For example, 90 percent of Dyspraxics have other ND conditions.

I also believe that there is a big difference between a genetic neurodivergence and an acquired one. I believe that former is the one that includes strengths and that the acquired one doesn't. I believe that there is a problem of looping them together and treating them like they are the same. I believe that this goes especially for people with Autistic Spectrum.

I believe in Neurodiversity in that neurological/learning "disorders" are just variations of human condition. I also believe in the social model of disability.

I believe the labels, Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD,Autistic Spectrum are social construct labels for neurodivergents that have information processing that great differs from "normal people" which are referred to as neurotypicals.

I believe in the social model connected to that.
http://brainhe.com/TheSocialModelofDisabilityText.html

Just think how homosexuality was viewed as a disorder,and it was even included in the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, but it is not now. It's accepted as variation of sexuality.

Different doesn't necessarily mean deficient.

Like Dr. Temple Grandin who is autistic said, I believe the world needs all kinds of minds. They all have value on our planet.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 12, 2010 02:20 PM            

I've read that singletons usually make that element extra strong. The rest of my chart supports that. I have Venus in my 3rd and Mercury-Uranus in my 1st. I identify with and like air.

posted March 12, 2010 02:31 PM            

well...I am righthanded, but I am left ear and left eye dominant. That is known as mixed/cross dominance. When I was in preschool, I needed fine motor skills therapy to develop competent use of my hands. My mother told me that she saw signs of ambidexterity in me for I didn't know which hand to use. People tell me that I write like I am lefthanded when I write with my right hand. I prefer opening bottles,cans,and jars with my left hand. When I wear a watch,I prefer wearing it on my right wrist like lefthanded people do. I prefer texting on my cellular phone with my left hand.

I do have strong 3D visualization ability. I think mainly in pictures instead of words. It was only through auditory therapy,speech therapy,and phonics that I learned to think in words. I think in pictures,visualizing in my mind's eye nonstop,and that means that when I am reading,writing/typing,speaking,and listening, I am still thinking in pictures/visualizing.

That means that my right hemisphere is always very active and interfering with what my left hemisphere should be doing. That is the main issue with neurodivergence like Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD,Autistic Spectrum.

I also tend to get left and right mixed up too.

my mother is the same way as me. She has the same way of thinking and mixed/crossed dominance as me.

I read that one of the early warning signs of Dyslexia is a left-handed person in the family. One of my maternal uncles is left-handed,and he is hyperactive to the point that he was recommended to take medication when he was a child. My maternal grandfather was left-handed, and he was hyperactive. His younger half brother was diagnosed as having Dyslexia.

Many Dyslexics and Dyspraxics are ambidextrous, mixed/cross dominant.

btw...I lack planets in Earth.
I have a Virgo Ascendant.
but that has nothing to do with neurodivergence of Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD.

I am not an organized type that my Virgo Ascendant shows. I think that it's about how I appear to be organized. I do believe that it reflects my concerns about wanting things to be done without making mistakes to avoid looking stupid which has always been my greatest fear. I am a perfectionist in that way. My compensating for my weaknesses is strongly connected to that perfectionism. My being very self critical (like chewing myself out and feeling bad for making mistake) and being worrier type is also connected to those things.

I do approach life in way that I need to be practical,realistic,routine on the surface. That's due to my wanting to fit in and just be normal. I don't go around wearing things that say "Look at me..I am different." I definitely don't want to be viewed as special. I have been down that road - special education.

That can be my Virgo Ascendant. It also can be my very strong Saturn influence too.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 12, 2010 03:04 PM            

I am the same way. I tend to be very absentminded,forgetful. I don't forget my name though. I do have Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD which I see variations of human condition and has strengths and not just weakness. That's just me.

As for Alzheimers stuff,

well

There is a test called Mini Mental Status Exam (MMSI),that is used to check for cognitive impairment. It is commonly used to screen for dementia.

The last time I took it was in 2006 during neuropsychological testing, and I scored 29 out of 30. The one that I missed was a word that she spoke,and I didn't remember it. Before that,I took MMSE during neurological testing earlier in 2006, and I scored 28 out of 30. The 2 that I missed were the same issue with remembering the word that was spoken.

Any score greater than or equal 25 means effectively normal (intact). Therefore I scored well in the normal range,and so my mental faculties are intact. I have no mental decline.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini-mental_state_examination

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 12, 2010 04:48 PM            

my only air is Chiron in Gemini..hardly a major influence.

i don't lack communication skills but the rest of the description above of No Air describes me well..

i tend to attract guys with Aquarian and Libra prominent in their chart.

posted March 12, 2010 07:11 PM            

-Are you strongly drawn to those who have a lot of your missing element? Friends/Lovers?

Yes. I am surrounded by Gemini-Libra-Aquarius influence. I feel like I attract many of these people as friends, sometimes romantically. My parents and grandparents also have a strong air influence.

-Is it initial attraction and then after a while you get closer to feeling there's not much in common, energy-wise?

Actually - no.
That depends a lot on whether they have fire and earth in their charts. If they have zero fire, we can definitely have problems long term. Sometimes zero earth can be a little *annoying* - just a little.

Otherwise - maybe it's because my own sun sign is a fire sign... I generally LIKE air-planets.

:edit: uh oh ^ I stuffed that up a bit. I looked up my grandmother's chart because I love her very much. She has a singleton Pluto in Leo (only fire).. and a singleton Jupiter in Virgo (only earth)..
As a side note my grandpa's chart is - Virgo Sun and Leo Mars (and three Libra planets in between lol).

- anyway since she has next to no fire or earth (Libra Sun-Scorpio Moon/Venus/Mars - Libra Mercury) - I have take back what I said LOL

-What about if they have only a few bits of your missing element in their charts? Does that tend to be a more stable union?

I would prefer it if it was a personal planet in air.. rather than an outer planet, and yes I would prefer if they have a mixture of things.. not *just* air.

As I said - I'd like some fire and some earth there also.

-And do you *really* feel as if you're lacking those key experiences/traits? Does traditional astrology exaggerate this bit?

It really depends.. some interpretations are way off - others are ok.
This particular one was off. I have many ideas which have payed off and that I am generally praised for in my career (but I thought "new ideas" were very typical of Aries as a sign wherever it may be lol
And I'm a huge planner. I plan everything to death.

Communication - hmm I remember reading that lack of air meant - no interest in small-talk. That is definitely true for me.
I can seem quiet at times.. and people get the impression I am upset or sad.. when really - I'm just living inside my head.

But other times I'm fairly out going.. and I do public speaking well.

I find that (more so that just the AC) - whether or not one has planets in air-sign houses (or whichever element they lack) - can change a lot in the personality.

posted March 12, 2010 08:45 PM            

My Mercury/Sun are in the sixth house, and Neptune is in the second. I also have a T-Square between Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto - Saturn being at the apex of that square (and with all the asteroid talk - from what I remember, I have Aprhodite in Capricorn, filling the void, in my third).

I have days when I'm amazed by my own stupidity (truly), but I can also be very practical, and have been told by several people that I'm one of the most down-to-earth and *real* people they know. I'm loyal, and take my commitments seriously... I rarely drink and have never used drugs (unless you count the occasional dose of Tylenol or medicine when I was younger).

quote:

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Heavenly Bodies In EARTH Signs: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn
0 (none): If you haven't learned to ask "What's in it for me?" and other "totally-selfish" questions, it's likely you've been unfairly used and taken advantage of by others more often than you'd care to recall. While being almost totally impractical may make you a very nice person to know, one who'd give away the last slice of bread to practically anyone (deserving or not), you are almost always left "holding the bag." Realize you live in a material world and must face its realities every day--whether you like it or not!

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*edited, but this makes sense to me.

posted March 13, 2010 05:24 AM            

loollzz...i don wanna be diagnosed with anything like that! em a natural worrier with virgo moon(moon rules my 6h). i recently read a few articles on bipolar & got tense thinking that i too must be a bipolar patient.
& the hospitals out here are pretty sucky. my frnd was diagnosed with some major liver prob but when she went overseas for treatment ,the docs said she was perfectly fine.

i tend to attract a lot of virgos followed by aqua's(em an aqua rising).
one of my friends has a very similar chart.
all our planets are in the same signs other than the moon.
her pisces moon opposes my virgo moon...

posted March 13, 2010 06:03 AM            

i've 3 left handed acquaintances & know a right handed dude who writes like a left handed person & all seem to be fine. doesn't it depend on which hand you were taught to use as a kid?

posted March 13, 2010 01:10 PM            

I do have to say I'm not really drawn to watery water signs. They gotta have a bit of fire or air to balance them out otherwise its like 2 massive bodies of water colliding..ie. Natural disaster.

I do have to say that I'm drawn to fire-y types though and have always been described as fiery and fiesty and the sometimes i get it when air types too.

posted March 13, 2010 01:27 PM            

I strongly doubt it. I believe that people are born to be right-handed,left-handed,or ambidextrous.

However, if a child has problems with fine motor skills which is very common with Dyspraxics, then they will require to be trained in how to use their hands like I was. It depends on the the therapist teach them.
I believe that I have the natural wiring to be ambidextrous. I have feel that I inherited that from my mother who is right-handed,left ear dominant,left eye dominant, thinks mainly in pictures/visualizing nonstop just like me.
That strongly suggects that it's genetic,hereditary.

My mother is strong in Water like me too
She has Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus in Cancer along with Moon and Saturn in Scorpio. I have Sun,Mercury,Venus in Scorpio along with Moon in Pisces. My father had Moon in Pisces too, and so both my parents had Moon in watersigns. Also my maternal grandfather had Sun and Pluto in Cancer, Ascendant and Jupiter in Scorpio,Moon and Saturn in Pisces.

also strong Uranus,Neptune,and transneptunian (that includes Pluto) runs strong in my family, and so does neurodivergence,alcoholism/drug problems,and divorces.

If a person is left-handed and is forced to use his/her right hand, it cause that person to have problems processing information due to confusion between right and left brain hemispheres. I am strongly against people making people use the hand that they don't naturally use.

There can be issues with corpus callosum which connects the right and left brain hemispheres.

I believe that Dyslexia,Dyspraxia which have strong connections to each other is actually caused by the confusion between right and left brain hemispheres. Confusion of left and right directions is a common issue with both. However, it's a common issue with schizophrenics too.

The traits of neurodivergence and schizophrenia overlap quite a bit, and so neurodivergents can easily be misdiagnosed as having schizophrenia,disorganized type.
Research studies show that at least half of schizophrenics have developmental delays whether it's language/speech or coordination/motor skills. Autism was once thought to be a form of schizophrenia too. Many autistics are being treated with antipsychotics because of behavior problems.
Not all schizophrenias are about hallucinations.

I think schizophrenia has been a blanket label for neurodivergents,psychics,mystics,shamans as well as people with unusual perceptions,beliefs. Also black people were often misdiagnosed as schizophrenic.

However, there are people that are really mentally ill and need serious help. I read about one girl who has paranoid schizophrenia that suffered from hallucinations,threatened to kill her mother numerous times,and had suicide attempts to stop the voices.

The guy that shot my mom was a schizophrenic too.

also I want to reiterate that not all nor even most schizophrenics are dangerous,violent. Some are completely the opposite.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"