posted March 23, 2010 12:52 PM         

It was circle time at Branden's play gym. As the kids huddled together on the mat, one of the four-year-olds stood outside the group, clearly troubled. When the teacher asked what was wrong, nearly in tears the boy said "There's no room for me." I remember the moment for what my sensitive Libra Moon son said next. Patting the space beside him, Branden called brightly, "Here's a room!"

But the unhappy gymster didn't want the spot next to Branden that day. Nor did he like standing beside the teacher where he was forced to endure the closing ritual, with all hands joining into the center as the group shouted "We are terrific!!" Trailing his mom through the parking lot after class, the little misfit was sad all the way to the car. He had entered, for possibly the first time, but certainly not the last, what I call the "Uranus Zone," that prickly space where we don't fit in, and we're sure there's somewhere else, somewhere better, that we do. In the Uranus Zone, we're the square peg surrounded by a field of round holes. We know we're different. We suspect we're even smarter than the rest. We're rebellious. Too, we're inventive, progressive, and creative. We feel an urgency to improve things. But we won't always like the society our creativity aims to serve. Nor will it always like us. Donna Cunningham has observed that within the Uranus glyph there's an upside-down Venus.[1] Uranus turns the Venusian principle of relatedness on its head. With Uranus, we're often alienated and irritated, cursed with feeling terminally unique.

Many people have told me they got hooked on astrology after an astrologer with uncanny accuracy delivered a stunning personal truth. With surprising frequency, that truth goes something like this: "Your chart says you're not like everyone else. You're another breed, a spirit from some other realm, an alien searching for your true home." I can understand the appeal of such a declaration. All the wounds of not belonging-in one's birth family ("Who are these people? What lame stork dropped me here on the way to my true kind?"); in grammar school ("Why doesn't anyone like me? Why don't I belong?"); continuing through the painful isolations of adolescence ("I don't fit in. I've got to hide who I am.") -all the lonely chapters of feeling estranged and misunderstood are explained and excused at last.
Identifying aliens through a horoscope is a technique I never quite learned. It likely has something to do with Uranus, but the whole business has long smelled fishy to me. If I can find outsiders with astrology, it follows I should also find insiders, a few of the infamous "them" who fit in. What does that look like in a horoscope? And what good are proclamations about not belonging anyway? Suppose some of us truly are misplaced spirits from another world. What then? Is it our unhappy fate to simply wait out the mistake? Or should we join a cult of similarly displaced souls, take lethal potions and beam up to some great mothership beyond?

I'm not minimizing our alienation wounds. One of my worst moments as a young mother came when I watched three boys snub my son at the park. They were about his age, running in and out of the sand box, around a slide, having great fun. Branden lobbed three "Hello's" at them, then a couple "Hey boy-what's your name?" followed with "I have a dog." Giggling amongst themselves, they didn't seem to hear. Branden stood and watched the boys weaving in and out of the swings. After a few minutes, he jumped into line with them, giggling just as they did, as if he too were in on the joke. They never once looked at him; quietly he went back to his truck. He-and I-were crushed.

It's a mother's instinct to exchange her child's defeat for something gifted ("Of course you didn't fit in, you're smarter, you're better, you're somebody special..."). Astrologers often suffer from the same syndrome. We use horoscopes to uplift people, to soothe their psyches and ease their pain. We focus on the unique blueprint in each chart and how that makes everyone special. There's just one problem with this approach: we all get the same solar system. People with a little astrology under their belts start talking about "my Pluto" or "my Uranus" as though they were personal property. But every chart gets a Uranus. And that means everybody has "alien" moments. Not belonging is a universal experience. All our hearts will get broken at times.

To have Uranus in your chart means it's your occasional destiny to be shattered. Maybe you were picked last for the 3rd grade kickball team. Or kids laughed when you wore the dress your grandmother sewed because your mother was too poor or too obstinate to buy the fashionable kind. Just when you made a few friends, your family moved again. You discovered your parents were fallible, withdrawing favor, stumbling with weakness, cheating on each other, or even dying. You lost a job, got kicked out of school, a drunk killed your sister in a car accident, your nephew committed suicide, a predator grabbed your daughter. Uranus brings awakenings. We like to emphasize the shiny brightness of this word: illumination, inspiration, freedom and change! But often enough, Uranus awakenings can be rude. "Breakthroughs" are also Uranian; but as the word suggests, before getting through, something must first be broken. As the rest of the world hums along cohesively, you'll find yourself distraught and alone.

When you're shattered by Uranus, something unexpected happens. In your despair you reach out, and like a lightening bolt it comes. Your perspective shifts and you get a sudden revelation. It wasn't anything you could find on the shelves at Wal-Mart or pick up from the nightly news; it wasn't the thing your mother has been telling you for years. Uranus is the supreme sky god, and his solutions are birthed in the great invisible, beyond consensus reality. Out of the storms of discontent, comes a gift from Divine Intelligence, a flash of knowing that was impossible before. Uranus charges us and changes us. It jolts us off one road and drops us onto another. It's what makes our futures different from our past.

Watch a few commercials and you might think people love anything new and improved. But the truth is, we usually resist change. Cosmologist Brian Swimme makes an interesting observation about human progress. "We have long assumed," he writes, "that as soon as humans figured out how to plant seeds and tame animals they rushed into it."[2] And why not? What a fabulous idea! No more roaming. No more grass tents. No more nights shivering under the stars and days spent searching for food. Comfort at last! Yet, as Swimme points out, the hunter-gatherers probably didn't want to settle down. Traveling was their way of life. Their evolution into settlements was likely forced by extreme duress-roaming populations may have grown too big, climatic conditions may have diminished their food supply. In other words, they were probably dragged into the future kicking and screaming.

Biology systems theory teaches that in open nonlinear systems, like social groups and ecosystems (or that psychological structure known as the ego), the general tendency is toward order and stability. Most things prefer to stay just as they are. Change therefore requires instability. Disequilibrium. Anarchy. When a system is shattered, it responds by reorganizing itself. That's how paradigm leaps occur. Without some discomfort in our Uranus house, or through the planets it aspects, our breakthrough thinking may never be evoked. Why would we challenge the status quo, if we weren't at first unhappy with it? With Uranus, we have to expect some alienation, dislocation, even trauma. We might forgive therefore the neurotic styles often associated with this archetype-the aloofness, the absent-mindedness, the restlessness, the arrogance, the stubbornness, the revolutionary zeal. These may be a small price to pay for the upside of Uranus. It inspires our genius. With it we can create and liberate, freeing ourselves and humanity from its ruts.

With or without a trauma, Divine Intelligence uses Uranus to whisper unusual ideas in our ears. "What about a nose ring?" it says, long before nose rings become fashionable. Astrologers associate Uranus with radical vision and a passion for freedom, its intellectual brilliance often in defiance of authority; its creativity thumbs its nose at cultural conventions. Curiously, these traits don't fit the mythological Uranus (the Greek Ouranos). That's why historian and philosopher Richard Tarnas argues that Uranus is one planet the astronomers have improperly named.[3] Hardly progressive, Ouranos is a poster boy for the status quo. The god of the heavens resisted change by systematically forcing all his children back into their earth mother Gaia's womb. A more appropriate archetypal figure, proposes Tarnas, is Prometheus, the trickster Titan who stole fire from the gods and thus liberated mankind.

Tarnas researched the charts of revolutionary thinkers throughout history and discovered an impressive majority bear a strong Uranus influence. Among them are the chief protagonists of the scientific revolution-Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Descartes and Newton. All have Uranus in major aspect to their Suns, as do Rousseau (whose writings influenced the French Revolution) and Jefferson (a pivotal figure in the American Revolution). Iconoclastic women with Sun/Uranus aspects include Marie Curie, Margaret Mead, Gertrude Stein, Mary Shelley, George Sand, Susan B. Anthony, and Simone de Beauvoir. Innovative thinkers like Benjamin Franklin, Charles Darwin, Sigmund Freud, Jean-Paul Sartre, and Stephen Hawking have Uranus aspects to Mercury.

Source: AstroDatabank

Marie Curie, November 7th 1867 10.36 am, Warsaw,Poland

For those of us with strong Uranus aspects, this is encouraging news. Yet it's also likely (though difficult to prove with research), that for every Uranian history honors, there are plenty of eccentrics and misfits whose names must have been ground in history's dust. Unusual people, even gifted ones, don't always fare well in a status quo world. I think of the struggles of some of my clients and friends, like Noemi, a delightful woman with an exact Sun Uranus conjunction in Cancer in her 8th house. When Noemi first called me she was suffering, financially and emotionally; she hoped our session would help her get the career she loved on more stable financial ground.

"At times I find it quite hard to function in society," she confessed. She never felt at home in her native country ("I just didn't fit in"). She'd been fired or let go from nearly every place she worked. Despite her best intentions, she was often accused of making waves or upsetting the organization. She feared she was a disappointment to her father, and worried she was following his footsteps into a cold and isolated life. But Noemi's personal challenge of feeling at home in her own body inspired her to help others feel more at home in theirs. Working from the healing depths of her 8th house, with the loving sensitivity of water-sign Cancer, she became a transformational body worker using the medium of water. Her work is innovative, intimate, and nurturing, and the word-of-mouth reputation and media attention she's received have been enthusiastic. Noemi is gifted. But no matter how wonderfully healing her services, how necessary even for a population that's overwhelmingly depressed and disturbed, popping pills for all manner of dis-ease, slipping into a pool of water with a body worker is not something the masses are leaping to try.

When Divine Intelligence whispers to us through Uranus, its message may be ahead of our time. And that's the challenge with this planet. Getting an inspiration is one thing; manifesting it in the real world is another. On this point, we may find something useful in the Ouranos myth after all. If read from another perspective, it identifies our developmental struggles in expressing this planet. Ouranos is the god of infinite possibilities and therefore most at home in the realm of pure thought. Our first expression of Uranus is usually idealistic, which means we're often less skilled or uncomfortable with seeing our ideas take shape in the world. "Not good enough!" we'll think, as we stuff our thought-children back into the womb. If we stay here, we may have a profusion of ideas that never get off the ground. And it's not just our own thoughts we'll abandon or reject. We'll likely dismiss any well meaning suggestions from family and friends. At best we're a romantic visionary during this first stage. At worst we're dogmatic, elitist, and contrary.

And yet, because Ouranos can't resist lying down with earthy Gaia each night, at some point we'll be drawn into the next stage: manifestation. The sky god's desire for earth produced a child named Kronos (or Saturn, emblem for material reality), but father and son will battle. Ouranos must inevitably meet the reality of space and time, and through this collision, Ouranos will be changed. But Ouranos doesn't want to change. Indeed, there is vulnerability in the role of idea-maker, and resistance-both outer and inner-is a dominant feature of this stage. The world won't budge and we refuse to compromise. Struggling to manifest a vision can make us brittle and defensive, or hurt and angry at a world that refuses to recognize our gifts. Unfortunately, Kronos, god of time and earthly limits, is destined to win this fight.

Kronos severs Ouranos' genitals and tosses them into the sea. There is no more humbling moment than when we realize we don't have the juice to force our changes on the world. No matter how brilliant, there are limits to what one individual can do. Many of us simply give up here. Yet what happens next might give us hope: out of the sea foam, radiant Venus is born. After the battle, comes the beauty: this is the stage when, transformed, Ouranos is finally accepted by the culture of consensus. Our idea becomes beautiful after it meets Kronos; over time or through refinements, perhaps even a loss of some potency, our innovation acquires attractive power. The world either catches up to us, or we ourselves yield, adjusting to real world limits, experimenting with alternatives, incorporating the ideas of others. In the third stage of Uranus, when we join our individuality with the collective sea, we may gain unexpected new life. Sometimes even a sky god must change.

Change is the one thing we can expect with a Uranus transit, though what that will be is hard to predict. We might change jobs, begin or end relationships, move across the country, or shave our heads and get a scalp tattoo. When I hear from clients in the middle of a Uranus transit, they're usually quite stimulated. They want more freedom, a life in greater harmony with their inner truth. Often they're obsessed with some outer situation that's got to change or they can't be happy. They're in revolt, urgent to overthrow what's oppressing them, issuing fervent manifestoes to husbands and wives, or bosses and co-workers. Uranus transits can empower us to make much needed changes. But if we don't move thoughtfully, we may just repaint the scenery. We might get a new job or a different partner, but discover a few months later we're just as miserable.

I have my own theory about Uranus transits. We can use them to revolt against restricting conditions. Or we can change ourselves so that what once was confining is no longer a problem. Instead of revolution, we could go for evolution. We could become someone new. With or without outer changes, becoming more inwardly free-more enlightened-is the best promise a Uranus transit can offer. I got an opportunity to test this out a few years ago when transiting Uranus opposed my Moon. First I consulted my astrology books. They suggested this transit might bring sudden changes of mood, friction with women, insomnia, an unexpected pregnancy, issues with mother or mothering, or something unexpected in the home, possibly a relocation. I didn't want to move. I had just bought my new home and was hoping to plant spring flowers all over the yard. I briefly worried I was pregnant, but found I wasn't. I didn't feel particularly enlightened or inspired. But then, as the transit drew closer, the walls started closing in.

My new neighbor kept appearing with complaints. My corporate job was a struggle. One of my managers was depressed and every conversation with her was irritating and hard to release. A couple Moonprints customers thought I'd made mistakes with their charts. I hadn't, but my 12th house Moon was so sensitive to exposure and failing others, just the thought was traumatizing. Then my worst nightmare: A client complained about her session. I started to jump whenever the phone rang. My neighbor's demands escalated. "I don't want to sue you," she said, "but if you don't fix the problem in my yard. "

It was overwhelming. Claustrophobic. And yet something was familiar about it too. Gradually it dawned on me. My mother, the touchy critical mother who scared me as a child, was everywhere! I was living next door to her. I was working with her. I was giving her readings. So this was how Uranus was triggering my Moon. "Freedom!!!" I wailed. None of the events were earthquake size, but my feelings were so intense, I certainly wanted to move, quit my job, and end a few relationships ("All of you stop it!"). Even my desire to plant flowers on the New Moon was thwarted. Every time I cast my shovel into the dirt, I hit a tangle of toughened roots. The resistance was awful.

Then the Uranus leap came: resistance! All the pain was coming from my resistance. My desire for revolution was a plea for stability in disguise. I just wanted everyone to quiet down and leave me alone. I didn't want to change at all-which was a stunning revelation for a Uranus transit. I wanted the rest of the world to change so I could stay the same. If a Uranus transit represented electrical flow, I had to eliminate my resistance to the current. I had to allow myself to become electrocuted. So I stopped fighting and took the emotional hits. I welcomed my hopelessness, anger and fear instead of stuffing them down. It was uncomfortable. The ground beneath my feet was unstable. It was, as the Buddhists say, like sitting on a razor's edge.

posted March 23, 2010 12:58 PM         

Does Ouranos really have to lose his balls
before he can become acceptable to the mainstream?!

Also:

I'm glad Lincoln freed the slaves
and didn't just try to change himself
so as not to be bothered by slavery, lol.

posted March 23, 2010 01:26 PM         

Makemake in 22'11 Pisces
square Ascendant in 22'08 Sagittarius

In Right Ascension:
Makemake in 5'41 Aries
trine Mercury in 4'14 Sagittarius

Positive: Articulate and ultra-communicative. Self-assuredness, especially by verbal means. Clever, quick-witted and interested in invoking insight and inspiration with speech. Quick to report findings, regardless of impact. Courageous, possessing the willfulness to confront the peril required for discovery or spiritual evolution. Conscious of family security and safety. Protection of the brood.

Negative: Cunning and verbally manipulative. Double talk. Diversion of facts. Declaring false findings (laying an egg, so to speak). Taking flight to avoid consequence. Hiding as a coping skill. Reckless. Disregard for safety of the home. Self-serving.

Quaoar in 27'47 Gemini R
trine Jupiter in 28'00 Aquarius
trine Midheaven in 27'03 Libra
(that's 3 corresponding midpoint pictures:
Quaoar oppose Jupiter/Midheaven
Jupiter oppose Quaoar/Midheaven
Midheaven oppose Jupiter/Quaoar)

Positive - creative, inspiring, possibility oriented, uplifts sagging emotion, strong sense of self

Negative - doom saying, prophet of Armageddon, controls others with fear

In Right Ascension:
Haumea in 10'42 Taurus R
oppose Sun in 12'03 Scorpio

Positive: Soulful confidence, an unshakeable personal inner knowing, creative, regenerative. Able to reconstruct, redefine, transform, especially regarding consciousness, willfulness and restoring rock solid integrity. Supportive. Fostering. Fertile. Creative.

Negative : Insecure and attention demanding. Dramatic. Egocentric. A bully disposition. Forces head-on collisions. Claims martyrdom and sacrifice to secure attention. Willing to attach to someone else’s momentum or allowing dependent sorts to attach to one’s efforts for self benefit (using non-paid volunteers, fans, devotees).

In Declinations:

Varuna 23'31 South
parallel Ascendant 23'13 South

Positive - sovereign, competent, regulating without force, mastery of all tasks accepted

Negative - incompetent and blaming, laments losses, holds resentment

The preliminary keywords are from Philip Sedgwick's site

also she had strong aspects to big transneptunian that doesn't have a name yet

2002 AW197 in 6'32 Aries R
trine Mercury in 6'36 Sagittarius
trine Vertex in 7'36 Leo
(that's 3 corresponding midpoint pictures:
Mercury oppose AW197/Vertex
Vertex oppose Mercury/AW197
AW197 oppose Mercury/Vertex

here is some astronomical information on it

55565) 2002 AW197 is a trans-Neptunian object (TNO). It was discovered on January 10, 2002 by Michael E. Brown et al.[1] It is classified as a cubewano.

Measurements with the Spitzer Space Telescope have confirmed 2002 AW197 as a reliable dwarf planet candidate. It is located near the Kuiper cliff.

Observations of thermal emissions by the Spitzer Space Telescope in 2007 give a diameter of 734+116−108 km[4] and an albedo of 0.117+.04−.03.[4] The lower size estimate for a dwarf planet is about 400 km.[11]
[edit] Surface

ESO analysis of spectra reveals a strong red slope and no presence of water ice[12] (in contrast to Quaoar, also red) suggesting organic material (see comparison of colours and typical composition inferred from spectra of the TNOs).
[edit] Distance

It is currently 46.5 AU from the Sun.[8] It will come to perihelion around 2079.[10]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%2855565%29_2002_AW197

I'd say that it wasn't just Uranus. I would say that it was combination of a strong Uranus influence and a very strong transneptunian influence. She even has Sun oppose Pluto and Moon sextile Pluto (Sun,Moon,Pluto Wedge), and Pluto is a transneptunian too.

Transneptunians are nonconformist energies. Not just Uranus. The astronomy has to be considered. Uranus orbits on the ecliptic,and it has very low inclination. Transneptunians tend to orbit well off the ecliptic ,and that even includes Pluto that has 17 degrees inclination. Those are nonconformist and divergent objects. Pluto and other transneptunian objects have highly ellipitical orbits compared to the planets including Uranus.

In the declinations, her Mercury is 24'04 South which means that it is out of bounds. So the Mercurial energies work in an unusual way.

She has Mercury contraparallel Uranus with 52 minutes of arc and Uranus contraparallel Ascendant with 1 minute of arc.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 23, 2010 01:54 PM         

I wonder what other planets are strong.

Also, how the transneptunians figure
in the charts of other assumed Uranians.

Tesla, for instance, I know,
had Uranus on his Ascendant,
or in the 1st.

I'm gonna go look him up.

You got me working with the transneptunians,
a little, and with a few of the asteroids, so,
you can count me as another successful convert.

posted March 23, 2010 02:03 PM         

hehehehehe

BTW....Albert Einstein was strong in transneptunian energy too with Moon square Eris-Midheaven and Mercury conjunct Sedna. He even had Mercury conjunct Eris in Right Ascension.

Thomas Edison had Mercury conjunct Makemake.
I am not sure what else. Of course,he had strong Neptune influence too with Sun,Mercury,Neptune conjunction with Sun conjunct Mercury/Neptune midpoint. The regular education system failed him. He was homeschooled by his mother was was a teacher.

Albert Einstein did have a Sun semisquare Neptune. He also had Mercury conjunct Jupiter/Neptune midpoint, which would be good at not only thinking in pictures,intuition,but also philosophy and seeing the big picture.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 23, 2010 03:16 PM         

regarding your question about the losing of the nut sac.

posted March 24, 2010 10:38 AM         

"Try not to become a man of success,
but rather try to become a man of value."
~ Albert Einstein (Pisces)

Sedna seems very interesting.
Is it just 'cause she conjuncts my Chiron,
and I'm already obsessed with Chiron?

What's up with Haumea?

Well said, Mermaid.

Those are some outstanding aspects/configurations,
and I'd have to call it Divine Providence, that the children
have been placed under such competent, caring hands.

All the best teachers have an appreciation for the gifts
that each individual has to offer, and they nurture those gifts,
without self-righteously emphasizing what someone has no aptitude for.
It takes an exceptionally keen heart and intelligence to provide
this level of insight, understanding, and acceptance.

posted March 24, 2010 01:16 PM         

hmmmmm
that's a not a personal contact. That would be generational. That would be like my Chiron conjunct Eris, but it's personalized with it sextiling my Midheaven which also means that it trines my Imum Coeli. so involves aim of life,career,domestic environment,roots.

I have Moon sextile Sedna - 1'06 ('39 in Right Ascension) and Sun oppose Sedna - '44 in Right Ascension. Therefore,I have personal contacts to Sedna.

"What's up with Haumea?"

What would you like to know about it? Do you have any personal contacts with it?

I have personal contacts with Haumea too.
I have Haumea conjunct Ascendant - 2'10 orb. It's in the 12th house,and so I was born with Haumea Rising. It also means that it's in opposition to my Descendant. It would not involve just my appearance,persona,but also relationships,partnerships,marriage. I have Haumea square Midheaven with 3 minutes of arc, and that would figure very strongly with not only aim of life, career, but also my domestic environment,roots (being square Imum Coeli). I also have Venus sextile Haumea with 52 minutes of arc, and so it involves my love nature,what I value,and relationships.

as for Uranus, it makes no major aspects to my planets. It trines my Midheaven and North Lunar Node.

but if you look deeper, it's involved in 11th harmonic aspects which correlate with Aquarius/Uranus.

Mercury,Mars,Saturn,Uranus,Sedna,Ascendant are in an 11th harmonic syndrome.

corresponding midpoint pictures:
Uranus conjunct Mercury/Ascendant midpoint
Uranus oppose Mars/Saturn Ascendant midpoint
Sedna oppose Mercury/Uranus midpoint
Saturn oppose Mars/Ascendant midpoint
Mars oppose Mercury/Saturn midpoint
Mercury oppose Saturn/Sedna midpoint

My Mercury/Sedna midpoint oppose Saturn/Uranus midpoint(from the 11th harmonic Isosceles trapezoid) is aspect the lunar nodes. North Lunar Node conjunct Mercury/Sedna midpoint,and the South Lunar Node conjunct the Saturn/Uranus midpoint
Mercury/Sedna.

I also have Geocentric South Uranus Node oppose Midheaven. Which also means that it conjuncts my Imum Coeli. so it involves not only my aim of life,career, but also domestic environment,roots.

I have Geocentric North Uranus Node trine Uranus and trine the Vertex. It also means it is also the sextile the Antivertex. So it involves fated relationships, but also self (Antivertex is an auxilliary ascendant).

Both Geocentric and Heliocentric Uranus Nodes square the Ascendant which means it also squares the Descendant. It involves not just my self,appearance, but also my relationships,partnerships,marriage.

I am very Uranian that includes being strong in collective Uranus energy (the geocentric and heliocentric Uranus Nodes).
I chose to form Developmental Neurodiversity Association on June 3rd with Sun conjunct/oppose the Geocentric and Heliocentric Uranus Nodes.

I also have golden aspects involving Uranus.
Moon-Uranus golden aspect.
Uranus-Midheaven golden aspect.
Venus-Uranus golden aspect in Right Ascension.

Golden aspects are based on the Golden Section. Dr. Theodor Landscheidt devised them.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 24, 2010 02:06 PM         

Chiron seems important in my chart --
ergo, all aspects to Chiron might take on
greater personal significance for me.

In any case, I wouldn't
exactly call it "generational".
The orb is less than 2 degrees, and
the conjunction wasn't that close
for longer than a few months.

But would a Quincunx to Mercury
with an orb of less than 1 degree
count as "personal"?

Haumea squares my Neptune by 1,
conjuncts my Saturn (Asc Ruler) by 6,
sextiles my Stellium:
Sun by 4, Venus by 2, MC by 1, Uranus by 1
and semi-sextiles Pluto
(Stellium ruler) exactly

It also trines Atlantis exactly,
and trines my Ascendant by 3 degrees.

posted March 24, 2010 02:16 PM         

quote:

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I scared people and could expand on
almost anything with lightening speed.

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Yeah, that sounds about right.

quote:

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I love it but it makes things difficult socially, which seems so counter to the 11th house symbolism.

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posted March 24, 2010 02:16 PM         

Eris in 15'09 Taurus
oppose Saturn in 13'48 Scorpio
trine Sun in 15'27 Capricorn

In Right Ascension:
Eris in 7'41 Taurus
oppose Part of Fortune in 7'17 Scorpio
oppose/conjunct Vertex/Antivertex in 8'48 Scorpio/Taurus
trine Mercury in 6'07 Capricorn

Makemake in 7'28 Aries
oppose Mars in 8'16 Libra
square Uranus in 8'40 Capricorn
square Mercury in 5'33 Capricorn
(T-Square)

In Right Ascension:
Makemake in 17'47 Aries
conjunct 2002 AW197 in 17'42 Aries R (another big transneptunian)
square Sun in 16'46 Capricorn

Sedna in 25'13 Aquarius
trine Ascendant in 22'41 Gemini

In Declinations:
Sedna 14'29 South
parallel Midheaven 14'46 South

Orcus in 23'08 Libra
trine Ascendant in 22'41 Gemini
trine Neptune in 23'50 Gemini R

Quaoar in 8'11 Gemini R
trine Mars in 8'16 Libra

Declinations:
Quaoar 14'18 North
contraparallel Midheaven 14'46 South

Declinations:
Haumea 23'27 South
parallel Venus 23'07 South
parallel Uranus 23'32 South
contraparallel Ascendant 23'17 North

I'd say that it was a combination of a strong Uranian influence,strong Neptune influence, and very strong transneptunian influence.

also
Mercury 24'34 South...so he had Mercury out of bounds....so the mental energy has no boundaries and can work exceptionally

His Uranus parallel Venus and contraparallel Ascendant.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 24, 2010 02:23 PM         

I'd like to think they're powerful,
because I have several good ones.

Sun-Moon-Midheaven-Uranus
and
Venus-Mars-Ascendant-Neptune

posted March 24, 2010 02:35 PM         

Chiron seems important in my chart --
ergo, all aspects to Chiron might take on
greater personal significance for me.

:In any case, I wouldn't
exactly call it "generational".
The orb is less than 2 degrees, and
the conjunction wasn't that close
for longer than a few months."

Well...Chiron's orbit between Saturn and Uranus
it's a bridge between the social and the transpersonal. It's not a personal planet.
a few months is a big time span for many people to be born during that time.

I was wondering about contacts involving the big 3 i.e. Sun,Moon,Ascendant as well as as Midheaven (most important thig used in Cosmobiology and Uranian Astrology) as well Mercury,Venus. The Vertex and Part of Fortune might be something to look at too.

But would a Quincunx to Mercury
with an orb of less than 1 degree
count as "personal"?
Yeah...I use no more than 1 degree for quincunx. 1 degree orb would be barely have an effect. I have Venus quincunx Eris with 10 minutes of arc in Right Ascension,and so that would be a strong influence. So would Sun quincunx Varuna with 5 minutes of arc in Right Ascension.

Haumea squares my Neptune by 1,
conjuncts my Saturn (Asc Ruler) by 6,
sextiles my Stellium:
Sun by 4, Venus by 2, MC by 1, Uranus by 1
and semi-sextiles Pluto
(Stellium ruler) exactly

I don't use more than a 3 degree orb for the big transneptunians (that includes Pluto), and so I'd count only Venus,MC,and Uranus.

I wouldn't count rulerships. Cosmobiologists don't use houses. Sidereal Astrologers don't use tropical zodiac which would often change house rulerships. I stick to mainly the geometry.

"It also trines Atlantis exactly,
and trines my Ascendant by 3 degrees."
trine Ascendant with 3 degree orb is maximum orb, and so it might not have much of an effect. Trines are soft aspects too,and so they might be felt that strongly like the hard aspects which are event oriented aspects in Cosmobiology.

"I haven't looked at Midpoints yet,
or any of the other stuff you mentioned."

Right Ascension and Declination are the equatorial coordinates of longitude and latitude which are the only coordinates that astronomers use. They are definitely valid coordinates to use just like ecliptic longitude coordinates that astrologers use are valid. I am using them,and that's part of 21st Century Astrology.

also the geocentric,heliocentric nodes of the big transneptunians are collective energies. Personal contacts to them would indicate a strong connection to that collective energy.

like in my case with Sun oppose/conjunct Eris Nodes (both Geocentric and Heliocentric) with 10 minutes of arc. I am strongly connected to collective Eris energy. I am trying to live up to the great karma that is suggests by forming Developmental Neurodiversity Association which I am forming during Sun conjunct/oppose Uranus Nodes (both Geocentric and Heliocentric).

No more than 1 degree orb should be used for the geocentric,heliocentric nodes of the big transneptunian objects (that includes Pluto)

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 24, 2010 02:46 PM         

I'd like to think they're powerful,
because I have several good ones."

They are important. It's just that many astrologers overlook them. They do the same with Right Ascension which is also important.
Astronomers use only those coordinates.
That's how separated we are from Astronomers. There are quite a few Astrologers that also the declinations. Cosmobiologists and Magi Astrologers use them. I have been using them since 1999.

I use Ecliptic Longitude,Right Ascension,and Declination for a multidimensional view of the chart.

also there are the horizon coordinates that can be used, and that's depending on the location of the observer. Paran method uses the horizon coordinates.

Declinations are connected to eclipses

for example
Solar Eclipse occurs when Sun conjunct and parallel Moon

Lunar Eclipse occurs when Sun oppose and contraparallel Moon.

When it involves other objects, it would be considered an occultation.

For example:
I have Mercury conjunct and parallel Venus, and so I have a Mercury-Venus occultation.

I have Saturn oppose and contraparallel Neptune,and so I have a Saturn-Neptune occultation.

Also declinations are connected to seasons.

Vernal Equinox occurs when Sun is in 0'00 Aries and 0'00 latitude in the Declinations

Autumnal Equinox occurs when Sun is in 0'00 Libra and 0'00 latitude in the Declinations.

Summer Solstice occurs when the Sun is in 0'00 Cancer and 23'26 North in the Declinations.

Winter Solstice occurs when the Sun is in 0'00 Capricorn and 23'26 South in the Declinations.

When objects are less than 1 degree latitude in the Declinations, they are considered to be strong.

When objects are beyond 23'26 Latitude in the Declinations, they are considered "Out of Bounds"

The Declinations are lot more important than many people understand.

I use no more than 1 degree orb for parallel,contraparallel.

for the big transneptunian objects (that includes Pluto), I use no more than 30 minutes of arc.

"Sun-Moon-Uranus
and
Venus-Mars-Ascendant-Neptune"

I'm not even sure how to interpret them.
Just that they are kind of like conjunctions,
but not as strong or obvious in their expression.

Interpret them as you would conjunction.

As how strong they are, you have to consider the orb.

An exact parallel of Moon-Uranus is a stronger than a 5 degree conjunction of Moon-Uranus.

I use no more than 5 degree orb for major aspects except sextile which gets 3 degrees. I use the orbs that Robert Hand recommended in his book, HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS I don't believe in using wide orbs. There is usually a midpoint configuration or the aspect is narrower in Right Ascension that would factor in astrologers getting away with loose orbs. Also the aspect can be in a parallel or contraparallel.

I have Venus conjunct Neptune with 10 degree orb.
I have midpoint picture of Mars square Venus/Neptune midpoint, Neptune square Venus/Midheaven midpoint, and Neptune semisquare Venus/Ascendant midpoint.
I have Venus parallel Neptune.

Of course, I can relate to the Venus conjunct Neptune.

Astrologers would say that I have Mars square Neptune with over 6 degree orb.
I have midpoint configurations involving them. Mars square Mercury/Neptune midpoint and Mars square Venus/Neptune midpoint.
In Right Ascension, I have Mars square Neptune with 1'01 orb.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 24, 2010 03:12 PM         

quote:

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a few months is a big time span for many people to be born during that time.

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Indeed. But it's nothing compared to
the number of people born in a generation.
For instance.. how long did the
Neptune-Pluto sextile last for?

So, what does Haumea mean anyway?

I heard, if a planet is in a stellium,
then all aspects to any planet in the stellium
apply (almost equally) to that planet.

And I'd think an exact Semi-Sextile,
especially to Pluto, would be potent.
I also see no reason to overlook depositors.

I don't know sh!t about arcs and right ascentions, lol,
but I'm pretty sure my stats are as impressive as yours.

My Sun-Eris Quincunx by less than 1 minute
seems pretty important; maybe more than anything else.

Hmmm...

Sun Conjunct Ixion by 1
Sun Conjunct Quaoar by 3
Sun Qunicunx Varuna by 1

Venus Conjunct Ixion by 3

Okay, so...

If I go to "additional tables"
(above the picture of my chart on astro.com),
then, the Right Ascension coordinates
are listed in the Latitude column?
(Are the Sun and NNode always at 0°0'0" N?)
Do you compare them to the Declination numbers?

How are you figuring out
the geocentric/heliocentric Node aspects?
And how do you calculate planetary nodes?

posted March 24, 2010 03:23 PM         

Varuna in 5'29 Sagittarius
conjunct Uranus in 7'49 Sagittarius
oppose Neptune in 5'07 Gemini
square Sun in 7'06 Pisces
(T-Square)
His Sun square Uranus was aspected not only Neptune but also the transneptunian dwarf planet candidate, Varuna (named after the Indian God of the Oceans).

Quaoar in 27'29 Taurus
conjunct Mars in 29'27 Taurus
sextile Jupiter in 29'18 Cancer
sextile Saturn in 27'22 Cancer

In Right Ascension:
Quaoar in 27'29 Taurus
conjunct Mars in 26'42 Taurus

Haumea in 15'54 Pisces
conjunct Pluto in 13'52 Pisces (another transneptunian)
conjunct Mercury in 13'52 Pisces

In Right Ascension:
Haumea in 26'14 Pisces
sextile Mars in 26'52 Taurus

Eris in 12'22 Taurus
conjunct Midheaven in 10'04 Taurus

In Right Ascension:
Eris in 5'43 Taurus
conjunct Midheaven in 7'39 Taurus

In Right Ascension:
Sedna in 27'36 Aquarius
square Mars in 26'52 Taurus

In Declination:
Sedna 14'31 South
contraparallel 14'14 North

Therefore, he had not only a strong Uranus influence but also a very strong transneptunian influence.

furthermore

His Mercury's speed is 1'55. He had a fast Mercury.
His Moon's speed is 14'17. He had a fast Moon.

With both a fast Mercury and fast Moon, his processing speed could be very fast. This could also indicate the possibility of an overactive nervous system.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"