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Topic: Saturn-Mars aspects in synastry... personal experiences please?
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Ami Ann
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posted March 31, 2010 04:17 AM
  
That sounds like wisdom.  IP: Logged |
Venus De Milo
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posted March 31, 2010 08:20 AM
Whatver happens, I have to make sure that this is what I really, really want.If it's the real deal, it'll still be there in 2 or 3 months   IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted March 31, 2010 08:35 AM
Yes,better to move slowly before you commit your heart and body.
It is a horrible heart break when you really care and it sounds like you really do.
I would do the same thing.
You want to be with him long term--not just fast and furious 
That is how I feel about my guy. I want it long term and forever x o x o Ami IP: Logged |
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posted March 31, 2010 02:07 PM
In a previous relationship my ex has his Saturn exactly conjunct my Mars. I felt that he was too critical of me. I felt like I couldn't do certain things because he was disprove of them. He often called me childish over dumb things. One time my friend brought over Dream Phone (a kid's game) and we got really stoked playing it and the entire time he would make snarky comments about us being immature. He always said stuff like "I can't ever take you seriously" because I like to make jokes (and obvious JOKES like you can tell when I'm joking)... and then he would say he could never have fun with me. I mean, the dude was crazy, and his craziness definitely played a part in the way his Saturn interacted with my Mars.IP: Logged |
Venus De Milo
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posted April 01, 2010 02:17 AM
Amowls,We have Saturn-Mars double whammy. His Saturn (Leo) is opposed my Mars (Aqua) and my Saturn is conjunct his Mars (in Virgo). I think I've already noticed a little of what you describe, but its OK cause I like a bit of snark back and forth and I give it and I can take it. My previous relationship, all we ever did was make fun of each other and make stupid comments all the time, trying to "get" the other person. You can't take yourself too seriously. I don't. He is a little moody and snappy. He's a chef. And a bit of a know-it-all, lol. I'm a personal trainer and he's tried to lecture me about training and nutriition in the past... lol. I put him in his place real quick, I said... you know? i'm sure you know a little but about the gym and what not, but i'm a trainer and an athlete. this is my job. i have a formal education in training and nutrition. you can't possibly know better than me. just like i'm a pretty good cook, but you're a chef! you went to a french culinary school. there is nothing i'm gonna be able to tell you about cooking, right? RIGHT  He just smirked. He knew I had him there, lol. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted April 01, 2010 03:23 AM
Being a chef--does he have prominent Cancer?
BTW, always stand up for yourself, as you are doing.
It is a bad day when you stop and want him to love you more than you love yourself.
Take it from very personal experience !
x o x o Ami
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Venus De Milo
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posted April 01, 2010 06:58 AM
He actually doesn't have any Cancer placments that I know of. I strongly suspect that he's a Taurus rising, but he may well have Cancer on one of the angles. I haven't had a good opportunity to ask him what his time of birth is. I don't want to weird him out. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted April 01, 2010 09:52 AM
How long have you known him?IP: Logged |
Venus De Milo
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posted April 01, 2010 10:07 AM
Since last August. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted April 01, 2010 10:09 AM
You sound like you have a good sense of self. Don't leave home without it lol
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Venus De Milo
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posted April 01, 2010 10:25 AM
Thank you! (It's a work in progress) IP: Logged |
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posted April 01, 2010 10:55 AM
Venus, snarking is fine, however he would do it in a way that was just nasty and he meant it. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted April 01, 2010 11:09 AM
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Thank you! (It's a work in progress)
How well I know ! x o x Ami IP: Logged |
staborgi
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posted April 01, 2010 02:38 PM
Nice to hear a good amount of positivity regarding this aspect! I was always a little skeptical of the hard flack it gets because it's so hard to isolate one aspect...especially when you're considering a relationship that's already under way, you sense an attraction, etc. So good luck w the relationship, I think it sounds like the kind where Saturn will bring that long term, slow but TRUE appreciation for one another. ESpecially since it sounds like you are both quite saturnine anyway. From my experiences- My parents have Saturn opposite mars, maybe a dw if i remember correctly. They are sometimes at odds... Expressing that the other is kind of a wet blanket sometimes but it always comes from THE BEST intentions and genuine care for one
another. I think in a solid relationship that's what the dynamic might be about sometimes.
It's funny bc I used to dread that aspect but with age I think it can be great. My best friend I have it, her Mars opp my Saturn, can't speak for her but we generally hav a very caring relationship. I feel very caring and almost dutiful and responsible for her, try to look and for her as much as possible and help guide some of her impulses into channels that will bring long term satisfaction.
I'm wondering though, does anyone have any thoughts on this -- the guy I'm kind of seeing right now and I have my mars conjunct his Saturn/Pluto conjunction. How do you think that might manifest? Too early to tell for me, woul very much appreciate thoughts! His Saturn/pluto is in the last degrees of libra and my mars is at 0 Scorpio...also wondering about it being an out of sign conjunction, never really sure how to interpret those. IP: Logged |
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posted April 02, 2010 01:31 AM
Hi Starborgi!You know, the conjunctions are not so bad. Pluto-Mars makes you push each other forward towards your goals, you guys can be competitive with each other and it can indicate a strong sexual attraction -- especially since his Pluto is at 0 Scorpio. Pluto would be particularly powerful in its own sign AND at a critical degree. Saturn-Mars actually isn't that bad, either. It's a similar influence, but with more of a nagging, annoying wet-blanket vibe from the Saturn person. And it's more just the Saturn person pushing the Mars person to channel their energies into something worthwhile, than the vice-versa action between Mars and Pluto. How is Mars aspected in your natal chart? How is his Pluto-Saturn aspected in his natal? Are there any afflictions going on? I think this is a powerful connection to have, kind of exciting, especially if you're both ambitious. Together, you guys could go far, I think! IP: Logged |
Sanchenuss
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posted April 02, 2010 01:38 AM
Venus let him have sex with you for a few months and see where it leads.IP: Logged |
staborgi
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posted April 02, 2010 11:51 PM
Thanks for your thoughts Venus Appreciate it! To answer your question, neither my Mars nor his Saturn/Pluto is afflicted- only a sextile to Neptune and semi sextiles to his Sun/Merc conjunction and Mars is my chart ruler (Aries ASC) and forms a sextile to my Venus/Uranus conjunction and a semi sextile to my Sun. You're right though, certainly exciting and dynamic! IP: Logged |
Venus De Milo
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posted April 03, 2010 04:19 AM
Sanchy, been there, done that darling... *yawn*... and it was fabulously hot, thanks. (you need to get laid pretty bad. ) IP: Logged |
Venus De Milo
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posted April 03, 2010 04:33 AM
Starborgi, ooooh... that sounds really nice! I think the Pluto-Saturn-Mars thing could be kind of heavy if it was afflicted and the personalities weren't evolved enough to use the energy well. You'll have to keep me updated on how it works out! IP: Logged |
staborgi
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posted April 05, 2010 03:26 AM
Yeah, I guess we'll see, eh? Will let you know! Good luck with everything and thanks again for your thoughts IP: Logged |
Buzzorific
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posted April 07, 2010 01:04 AM
I had My Saturn conjunct my ex's Mars. It sucked, to put it lightly. Of course that is probably because my own moon opposed the conjunction and my sun squared it as well. Point I'm trying to make is that having a Saturn/Mars contact can be great! However, I wouldn't know that they would be like. =( I hope you two end up very happy and live a long life together! ((((blessings!)))) ------------------
♥♥♥♥♥ All you need is love ♥♥♥♥♥ IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted April 07, 2010 04:24 AM
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Venus De Milo
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posted April 07, 2010 05:19 AM
ugghhhh. buzz that sounds awful.i dont hold grudges, but someone i will never allow into my life ever again had a 0' degree mars square my sun/mars conjunction. he actually wrote to me on my birthday in 2009 and apologized, but i just said "thats nice, bye now, please don't ever write to me again"... he was someone who i told over and over again that i wasn't interested in a relationship, and for awhile he pretended to be OK with that, and said i was his best friend. in fact, he was engaged to someone for the last year we were friends. i stayed with him when i came back to california and he confessed he'd been harbouring feelings the whole time (he dumped his fiance 2 weeks before i arrived!), and then turned really nasty on me when i maintained i wasn't interested and i thought we were friends. i stayed one more night the whole time i couldn't sleep. he was a federal marashal with guns and tasers in the house and completely unhinged. i have no idea how the b@astard passed the psych tests to be a marshal. he's completely irrational and does't listen to PLAIN LANGUAGE. not interested. not interested. not interested. over and over. i completely did not lead him on, which he acknowledged in his apology to me. I'm looking at his chart right now, we don't really have any major Saturn action at all. But that Mars square is exact within 1 minute to my Sun. We actually don't have a lot of synastric aspects going on, except I do notice now that my Sun/Mars/Mercury are conjunct his MC and my Jupiter is conjunct his IC. IP: Logged |
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posted April 08, 2010 12:05 AM
Mars Trine Saturn
You work easily together with consistency and evenness. Your energies flow into effortlessly accomplishing the goals and ambitions of your relationship. You can be disciplined about how you go about things and your sexual expression may lack spontaneity. However there will be a strong reliability about everything you do.
===============================================================================We both know that no matter what the other will be there for the other one. We have even expressed that we know that about the other.
We have other aspects which made sex extremely spontaneous, but it just fizzled... IDK.... We can talk about anything, even sexual needs, wants and desires w/o any problems... IP: Logged |
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posted April 08, 2010 10:37 AM
Hi Venus De Milo,Here is my train of thought on how to best weight your own relationships objectively. The most important thing to focus on are your aspects. So for now, disregard your charts. The Synastry aspects are the fuel that make the relationship work, without them you have no relationship. List all of your aspects and then color code them. Make all Oppositions – light blue
Make all Conjunctions and Trines – yellow
Make all Sextiles – light green
Make all Squares – red Color the minor aspects any color you like with one of the colors above or don't color them at all. Color these aspects – black S (90, 180) MR
Sun (90, 180) Pluto
Moon (90, 180) Mars
Moon (90) Saturn
Moon (180) Pluto
MY (90) MR
VE (90, 180) SA
Mars (90, 180) Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto and Asc.
MR (180) NP The blue aspects are good around good aspects and bad around bad aspects. If you like, you can include certain Conjunctions as blue or red instead. Count up the colors and see what you get. Then the yellow and green should be added together; and the red and blacks should be added together, count the blues and keep separated. The thing about astrology is that you can not change the planet positions and their aspects to each other. What you get, is what you get. Aspect influences do not cancel each other out, they coexist simultaneously. So, astrologically speaking, before one begins worrying about the particulars, it is wise to see if the relationship is worth worrying about. If the green and yellow out number the red and black by twice as much or more, the relationship shows the potential to be a good one. The frosting on the cake (so to speak) would be favorable aspects to Moon, Mercury, Venus and or, Jupiter. Aspects To Live For:
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