posted March 25, 2010 08:05 AM            

I'm in a bit of a astrological predicament. To keep it short and sweet as possible... someone I have been infatuated with, but thought he had no serious feelings about me... has asked me to move in with him, be with him.

I'm flabbergasted, and I told him I will give it serious thought, but I need some time and I want to get to know him better.

What troubles me astrologically, is that we have a lot of really hard Saturn aspects. His Saturn is conjunct his sun in Leo... and both straddle my Jupiter in Leo (conjunct)... and oppose my Sun/Mars conjunction.

Then my Saturn in Virgo is conjunct his Mars in Virgo... which squares my Venus/Neptune conjunction (his Venus in Leo is trine this same Venus/Neptune conjunction in Sag).

Yeah, it is intense. But he's so wonderful and I haven't ever stopped thinking about him and I'm so delighted that he apparently feels the same way, to the point where he'd actually like to make a commitment and live together and be together.

I said I can't just up and move in with you. I need time. He said, this is life, lets live it, you only live once. I love that sentiment, but I'm scared -- and not because of Saturn... just from a rational perspective, its a lot and its a big deal and I'm overwhelmed.

I'd really like to hear from those of you with experience with bad Saturn aspects in the chart.

I think Saturn is propelling us to want to be together... about 6 months ago, I asked if any of you believe in signs. I felt like I was getting bombarded with signs on a daily basis that I needed to do something to make sure this person didn't drift out of my life, but I just thought I was obsessing because he's deliciously good looking and the sex was amazing and I wasn't thinking straight because of it and looking for things to justify contacting him... also... all that "he's just not that into you" crap was buzzing around in my mind, too.

But... now I firmly believe in signs. There were so many, seemingly constantly. It was driving me nuts. But I just didn't think he felt that strongly about me. I knew we had incredible chemistry and he liked me as a person well enough, but I never in a million years would have had any inkling that he wanted to come home to me every day.

Wow.

posted March 25, 2010 08:24 AM            

i like him, but i feel very cautious.

posted March 25, 2010 08:26 AM            

Ami

posted March 25, 2010 08:49 AM            

On the other hand, my Saturn is near his Sun (under 7 degrees) and conjunct his Mercury (under 3 degrees). I guess that my Saturn gets along with his Sun, while with Mercury too but would feel like wanting to "restrict" it a bit if his Mercury gets evil (Sagittarius can be so evil sometimes lol). But I love his Mercury anyways, and my Saturn seem to love it too (his Mercury is tightly conjunct my IC).
My Saturn is also sextile his Mars (under 1 degree), and I like how he deals with things.

I'm not sure if these Saturn aspects are really binders, but if some of them are, then I'd say that it would be coz we have Saturn in the same signs, and then his Sun and our Plutos are in this sign too. At least it helps us to share similar serious way.

posted March 25, 2010 08:59 AM            

We parted ways because I would not move in with him or let me clarify that I would not move in under his ‘my way or the highway’ stance. I wanted to move in but there was a compromise needed and he would not do it, and what can I say a gal with a Taurus Mars and Leo Venus is not going to be manipulated.

There was a lot of love there on both sides, of that I have no doubt. The level of trust we both felt was amazing but in the end it just wasn’t enough. Whenever he did not get his own way he would break up with me and just cut me off completely. Something always bought us back together and yes!........there were signs everywhere. Signs here, signs there, freaking signs everywhere. Those signs used to make me think I was going insane at times.

The last time we got back together is because he was very remorseful and agreed to a teeny compromise, as soon as he had me back he pulled the rug out and changed his tune and it was back to his way or the highway. The highway is a strange place to be, some days I wonder if I made the right choice but that’s my heart hurting. Logically I know if I had stayed with him on his terms I would have ‘lost me’.

posted March 25, 2010 09:28 AM            

My ex-husband's Saturn sat exact on my ASC.

(interestingly, this guy's progressed Venus, Mars and Mercury are all hovering over my ASC right now and for the next few years)

Winter, your ex sounds just like my ex-husband. He would say anything to get me to be with him, come back to him, not divorce him... and he was incredible charismatic and charming to boot... then he would shamelessly renege on his promises as soon as he got what he wanted. He was a Pisces with Capricorn rising, so Saturn was also his chart ruler.

His way or the highway! Our exes were cut from the same cloth

But 8 years is a long time.

posted March 25, 2010 10:12 PM            

You have natal Saturn square Venus, so this is an energy that you experience as painful, and I suspect you will have a harder time than him. But you could still make it work.

posted March 26, 2010 05:40 AM            

saturn aspects make u feel responsible toward each other. u hve someone on whose shoulders u can rest ur head & kry. some1 who won't stray & will stay through good & bad times. they create a sense of security,reliability,etc....
my mom's saturn opp dad's sun
his saturn conj her venus.
they've been togetha since their teens.
many married couples hve saturn/mars aspects.
so hail saturn & concentrate on the +ve...!

posted March 26, 2010 08:24 AM            

saturn aspects make u feel responsible toward each other. u hve someone on whose shoulders u can rest ur head & kry. some1 who won't stray & will stay through good & bad times. they create a sense of security,reliability,etc....
my mom's saturn opp dad's sun
his saturn conj her venus.
they've been togetha since their teens.
many married couples hve saturn/mars aspects.
so hail saturn & concentrate on the +ve...!

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Beautifully said! I have always seen Saturn as scary and bad.
You put it in a new light and a good light.

posted March 26, 2010 09:37 AM            

I always thought one or two Saturn aspects, like trines or an innocuous conjunction was "good"... but too much Saturn, especially "nasty" squares and oppositions were "bad"...

I'm starting to think that perhaps for the long haul, you need a lot of Saturn, not just a little bit of the "innocuous" stuff.

I have also been thinking that we're likely drawn to each other for a karmic reason, and even if everything isn't sunshine and rainbows... I have things I can learn from being with him. I'm still going to take time and get to know him, but barring any major red flags, I'm gonna go for it.

I still wanna make sure this is not a whim and I want him to value me and not think he can just pull me around by the nose however he wants... so I'm gonna make sure he knows he isnt being rejected, but i'm going to remain coy and continue observing.

We are going to have a "phone date" soon, I'm so excited!!!

posted March 26, 2010 11:07 PM            

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Belage, that is interesting, i noticed tMars yesterday too... so tMars is at about 0 Leo now, right?

Jupiter is at 3 Leo and his Saturn is at 7 Leo... my Sun/Mars are at 4 & 5 of Aqua. His Sun is at 11 Leo.

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Mars is at about 2 degrees Leo right now. I suspect it is because pushy Mars is about to go through your Saturn/Sun/Jupiter conjunction with this guy that things are taking off. Mars wants action and it wants it NOW. Your guy initiated this because it involves his sun and saturn, so it feels very personal to him.

If you pass up this opportunity, the guy might not make this offer again soon... I am not saying you will not be together, but what I am saying is, this is one of those times when he feels very strongly about making this commitment with you and he is pushing for it, and it might not happen again in the near future.

posted March 26, 2010 11:52 PM            

Belage, this is the composite, however, the birth time is an educated guess, based on the fact that his moon can only be in the last part of Scorpio or the first part of Sagittarius...

I think its a safe bet that he is a Scorpio Moon because the description fits him like a glove, while Sag moon doesn't fit at all. He's very brooding and mysterious and not very talkative. When he says something it's for a reason, he doesn't talk just to chatter.

He could only be born with a Scorpio moon in the first hour or two of August 4th.

Then, I feel that out of the possible ASC in that time frame, that Taurus fits him and not Gemini (again the talkative thing... def not a Gemini rising, lol). He's also very sensuous and very much into creature comforts... he's a chef by trade. Taurus fits!

But I'm still guessing and it will be interesting to see what his actual birth time is, once I feel comfortable enough to ask, lol.

I am actually surprised by the responses I've gotten, both here and amongst family and friends I've talked about this with. I thought everyone would think I was so clever for being cautious, but everyone is saying what he said "you only live once", "oh i remember you talking about him! you had so much fun and liked him so much!", "you might miss the boat", "he sounds lovely", "go for it"...

I'm like.... oh?

posted March 28, 2010 07:16 AM            

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Ami

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posted March 31, 2010 02:30 AM            

I've decided just to hold tight and wait at least 2 months. What I'd really like is for him to come and visit me in Australia. He said that is a possibility, in the summer.

If for whatever reason (probably work), he cant come, but he still feels the same in a few months and so do I and we've been in constant contact... I'll probably do it.

I just can't rush into anything. It's too much. And while we have incredible chemistry and a wild attraction... I just need to know more.