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Ami Ann
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posted April 01, 2010 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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Well, i do have to say that maturity and age do help. Immensely.

I was out of home and responsible for myself at 15 and was living the life of a 25yr old (the age i am now), having to think like an adult and being responsible for myself gave me skills that put me far ahead of my peers in terms of social development etc

On the other hand, the things that i know now that i gained from 10 years of hard, heartbreaking experiences...if i could go back to my 15yr old self and say, "Girl, no matter what DO NOT believe what any guy says, not all friends are true, that only person you need to love and trust is yourself, etc etc"...well my life would be a helluva lot different now.

This is why I'm going to be a good mother to my children and why I'm the best big sister to my 15yr old sister and everyone else in my life.

Wisdom comes with age and maturity cos that's when you look back at your life and go, "Ohhh right, NOW i see it for what it was"



I admire you very much Diablo.

Ami

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Ami Ann
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posted April 01, 2010 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
My conclusion to intimacy is to try to know myself so I don't have hidden corners.
The road in ---is the hardest road,I think.
I have tried the road out--with relationships, possessions etc .
Who I am --has to be defined by me.
When it is, I can share it with another.
If not, it is neurosis conjunct Ascendent and square Midheaven

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glamgem25
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posted April 01, 2010 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
I agree AMI...I've learned a lot from this thread!! Very great info from different point of views!

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The Duke
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posted April 01, 2010 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
ami, my planets? uh...

ascendant: taurus
jupiter: gemini
venus: cancer
moon: leo
Sun: virgo
mercury: libra
pluto: scorpio
saturn: sagittarius
uranus: sagittarius
neptune: capricorn
midheaven: aquarius
north node: pisces
mars: aries

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Ami Ann
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posted April 01, 2010 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You know ,Duke, I was feeling deep, water planets from you as contrasted with your trenchant wit.
I think you are a softie and a romantic under the gruff exterior.
You don't have to answer. Don't want to blow your cover

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depth
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posted April 01, 2010 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message
i don't maintain close friendships for more than a year. people find me detached & insensitive. i start looking for reasons to filter you out of my life when you get close enough. infact,i get disgusted. must be a strong word but that's exactly how i feel. i need breaks from my relationships from time to time. iget confused about how to react when i see a teary outburst. i've often been told that my vibes say i can make anyone cry.

possible aspects that make me unable to be expressive,

virgo moon kinkunx saturn
moon in 8h
trine uranus
square mars

saturn in 1H.
stellium in the 10H.

aqua asc
sun/mars 11H.

i've barriers around my heart & since i don't form emotional links,things don't affect me much. i really admire people who express their pain,sadness(should be reasonable) & ignore those who whine for reasons that i find insignificant. em mostly into rationalising my feelings. lately,i've been trying to open up but the tears just refuse to flow in front of people.

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Diablo
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posted April 01, 2010 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Ami, you are such a wise and old soul. You are so introspective, like Carl Jung and I learn a lot from your musings and intrapersonal reflections..it must be the Mars in Cancer we both have

Honestly, the comment of mine that you quoted on was exactly what you were trying to say after it:

My conclusion to intimacy is to try to know myself so I don't have hidden corners.
The road in ---is the hardest road,I think.
I have tried the road out--with relationships, possessions etc .
Who I am --has to be defined by me.
When it is, I can share it with another.
If not, it is neurosis conjunct Ascendent and square Midheaven

No, its definitely not neurosis lol. Far from it. You have your stuff together and you are RIGHT on the money on that one. That is exactly how i feel about my life experiences, all those roads i tried..boyfriends, sex, partying, clubbing, stripping, drugs etc etc. I've always said, my past has made me who i am but it does not define who i am today.

Whenever i'm seeing a guy and he says something like, "Oh, i don't care about your past, it doesn't matter now etc etc" like its a bad thing, I get offended and immediately am turned off. I am PROUD of what i have gone through and how its made me the person i am today and comments like that say to me, "You are only good enough now"..and that's not good enough for me. I am good before during and after, LOL.

I feel like i have finally defined who i am and now i am ready to share it with another.

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Ami Ann
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posted April 01, 2010 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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Ami, you are such a wise and old soul. You are so introspective, like Carl Jung and I learn a lot from your musings and intrapersonal reflections..it must be the Mars in Cancer we both have

Honestly, the comment of mine that you quoted on was exactly what you were trying to say after it:

My conclusion to intimacy is to try to know myself so I don't have hidden corners.
The road in ---is the hardest road,I think.
I have tried the road out--with relationships, possessions etc .
Who I am --has to be defined by me.
When it is, I can share it with another.
If not, it is neurosis conjunct Ascendent and square Midheaven

No, its definitely not neurosis lol. Far from it. You have your stuff together and you are RIGHT on the money on that one. That is exactly how i feel about my life experiences, all those roads i tried..boyfriends, sex, partying, clubbing, stripping, drugs etc etc. I've always said, my past has made me who i am but it does not define who i am today.

Whenever i'm seeing a guy and he says something like, "Oh, i don't care about your past, it doesn't matter now etc etc" like its a bad thing, I get offended and immediately am turned off. I am PROUD of what i have gone through and how its made me the person i am today and comments like that say to me, "You are only good enough now"..and that's not good enough for me. I am good before during and after, LOL.

I feel like i have finally defined who i am and now i am ready to share it with another.


You made me cry,((Diablo)))
I want to share two things that happened.They are a compass for me.
I prayed ,fervently, to God to show me what to do in my life cuz I am at a crossroads.
I was asking WHAT to do in my outer circumstances.
I thought God was not there cuz I couldn't hear.
Then, I got an deep impression of the answer.
I saw a caterpillar in a cocoon.
If SOMEONE tries to cut it out--it will die. It has to EAT it's way out by itself.
*I* have to get rid of the distortions i.e that I am worthless, not important, not worth loving,not worth taking care of.
*I* have to eat my way out.

Then, I had another one.
I asked God WHEN I would be ready for a relationship.
I saw a picture of myself when I was 14. I was at a party.
A boy tried to push me sexually where I didn't want to go.
I pushed him away and walked off.
God showed me that when I can push off what is bad i.e. have boundaries, I will be ready for a relationship.
I hope I did not go on too much but I needed to share these things
x o x o Ami

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Benedict Moon*
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posted April 01, 2010 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
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BM--what I am getting at is "How does the Venus energy feel to you?"
I try to feel the energies. That is how Astrology seems to make sense to me.


Its one of the few lighter placements of my chart (its in the 5th) so I don't think I can tell you how it feels, just how it works. The energy just doesn't come naturally since it isn't connected to anything else in my chart besides my Eros and Libra MC. I have to consciously use it everywhere else besides work.

Hah, another (trivial) example of my UnAspected Singleton Venus: I'm very unphotogenic. I hate being photographed because of that.


* All in all, it makes it bad/confusing for the initial stages of romance (attractng, wooing, whatever) for a number of reasons---especially since my Venus is already in the 5th house. It makes it bad/confusing for expressing love for a number of reasons. But for intimacy, I don't think it really matters.

I do believe its similar to a retrograde Venus, they're both introverted.


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Sanchenuss
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posted April 01, 2010 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
I love me some Carl Jung. He was brilliant!

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glamgem25
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posted April 01, 2010 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
Wow Ami!!! It's amazing the messages that we get when we allow ourselves to receive!!

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Ami Ann
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posted April 01, 2010 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Glam Gem,
I implored God that IF He were there, I was in great need.
Then, I KNEW what He was trying to show me.
I am totally in love with a man but I must go slowly.
*I* am not strong enough to handle a relationship. *I* am not centered and grounded enough, yet.
He wants to go faster but I must respect what I KNOW cuz then I ( and he) will be safe.
Ami

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Diablo
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posted April 02, 2010 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Aw, I didn't want to make you cry, Ami lol but i do have to admit that when I'm moved, i get moved to tears too.

Thank you for sharing your most deepest, innermost feelings..its so hard to be so very vulnerable.

Trust me, God is listening..its just a trick of his. Sometimes i think its a test of faith and if we got some unmistakable sign from God every time we were rock bottom then we'd take comfort in that and not fight to rise above from the circumstances that are causing us pain.
There have been so many times where i've been weeping on my knees on the floor in the early hours of the morning, feeling so alone and cursing God for having forgotten me, the next day one of the first things i notice is a smile from a stranger or something random like that, its like God saying, "i heard you, don't worry"

The caterpillar in the cocoon is a perfect example of that, God was showing you the answer to your question. He really does work in mysterious ways, there is absolutely no doubt of that. Never let anyone cut out that beautiful heart, its yours and yours alone.

You have to eat your way out of the insecurities that you are drowning in before they eat you up to let the intense, volatile and self hurting emotions take over your soul (how Mars in Cancer is that? lol).

When you asked God when you'd be ready for a r/ship and you saw that picture, that was God's way of saying,
"Sweetie, stick to your morals and personal ethics, NEVER EVER let anyone compromise them or make you feel like you have to because in your gonna have to sift through a lot of crap and garbage and you critical eye and analytical thinking will be your personal soldier. Never for one minute doubt that you are wrong, always go for your gut instinct"

Through experiencing garbage and crap, you will naturally set up your boundaries and personal rules and relationship ethic to protect yourself from the crap whilst letting the good in
(the defensiveness of Mars in Cancer is very good in that respect. I know you hate that placement, as did I but these are the positive things about it. Cancer, very subtle and the influence is very under the surface)

Please dont think your going on and on..it is very important that you open up (only when you feel safe to) and express this..naturally you will come to your own conclusion and answer your own question, that is the power of God.

He created us in the likeness of his image so having said that, one would conclude that we ALL have the power of God within us. That is the strength of humankind and its taken us 1000s of years to finally realise that.

And for the record, I'm not religious. I was born into a Greek Orthodox family but was a self proclaimed atheist at 13 after spending my entire education in the Roman Catholic system. It wasn't till i was 17 and had to abort a child that i rediscovered TRUE spirituality and began to rebuild my relationship to God.

To me, God is the universe, he is everything..we are all made up from atoms, which makes up everything else in our world. That is true oneness.
You can't institutionalise spirituality, that's when it turns in religion and i want no part of a movement that has hurt millions of ppl and caused so many to suffer.

xoxoxo

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Diablo
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posted April 02, 2010 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
PS. i have a piece of writing that i did about 2.5 years ago that go right into what im talking about here. I'd like to give it to you for you to read, i think it might really help you as it did with the others that have.

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Ami Ann
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posted April 02, 2010 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
(((Diablo)))
I would love to read it. Would you like my e mail?
You have learned so much in such a short time of life.
You are a source of inspiration and comfort to me.

x o x o Ami

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posted April 02, 2010 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
absolutely, that would be fantastic. I shall send it to you asap x

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Ami Ann
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posted April 02, 2010 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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Diablo
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posted April 02, 2010 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
No worries, sweetheart. I'm in the process of locating it from the site i posted it up on a few years ago. Feel free to delete your email to protect your privacy, i got it now xo

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Ami Ann
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posted April 02, 2010 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Diablo

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Diablo
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posted April 02, 2010 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Anytime xo

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