posted April 06, 2010 05:50 AM         

You shouldn't ignore your symptoms thinking you are psychic when clearly your not well.

I hope you get better.

posted April 06, 2010 09:13 AM         

I've wondered about this myself: I don't understand how it's possible for positive energy to affect anyone (according to some). but negative energy would somehow be blocked by the universe, or sent back to the sender? The latter may happen - I understand that karma-wise - but I don't see that energy just being blocked, with no work on the part of the receiver (at the very least, remaining calm and not allowing it to affect them, if it is actually happening).

posted April 06, 2010 01:42 PM         

the most effective counter i have found for negative energy attacks is to send POSITIVE energy to that person if you know who it is...in fact even if you have no idea!!...i have turned some DREADFUL relationships around this way!!

@ohmybaby - "You need to start being accountable for this situation. Do not attack people ever again no matter what, and stay out of public. You're someone people can't help but hate and then the evil takes over, so don't attack anyone anymore. God IS watching you, he knows exactly what is going on ." this is probably GUARANTEED to ESCALAte the problem not solve it!!

@ vapor...

posted April 06, 2010 02:09 PM         

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@teasel - i am certain that both positive and negative energies come back on you...if you wish someone well it is helpful to you too. so why should negative energy NOT return to sender? what goes around comes around, this has been demonstrated to me so many times i have lost count and now take it for granted!

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Oh, I believe that it does, as well. It's just that I've never been too sure about the negative energy automatically being blocked by the universe. this was something I used to see from others: that nothing could affect you in that way, because the universe would protect you - the universe doesn't stop rapes and murders from happening to a lot of people, but it's there to stop negative energy from affecting someone? I don't get it.

mermaid: If only I were always successful at not letting anything affect me. I seem to be getting worse in ways, instead of better, but then I'm just feeling sensitive in general right now. I do love it, when I can remain calm and not let someone's negativity affect me.

In the past, I gave other people too much importance. Ugh. I was more concerned with the way I affected them, instead of the way they affected me, until I finally (finally) got angry. Not your stereotypical Aries.

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the most effective counter i have found for negative energy attacks is to send POSITIVE energy to that person if you know who it is...in fact even if you have no idea!!...i have turned some DREADFUL relationships around this way!!

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I have done this as well, when I sincerely wished the other person well. For the most part, the only thing that has turned that type of relationship around for me, is when I really didn't care about the situation anymore - I didn't give them much thought, and the next thing you know, they're being nice to me. That is a great thing to do, though. It's difficult when someone is doing their damnedest to hurt you.

posted April 06, 2010 02:32 PM         

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the most effective counter i have found for negative energy attacks is to send POSITIVE energy to that person if you know who it is...in fact even if you have no idea!!...i have turned some DREADFUL relationships around this way!!

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I had to quote this again, just to say that this really makes me smile. I was going to respond to someone's post in another thread, about picking up another's feelings (feelings that someone had for them). I've been on the receiving end of some beautiful, warm, loving feelings - he may have been feeling them, but I don't think he was deliberately trying to send them, if you know what I mean. I felt loved, warm (very warm), and totally at peace.

Anyway, I just love it when I hear of others trying to send positive energy to others. I know that when I'm feeling mean and testy, it's when I'm feeling incredibly low, and while I may have a reason to be angry with the other person, it's more about me, and how I feel about myself and my life at the time.

posted April 06, 2010 04:42 PM         

But there may be a need to stop. There may be a spiritual *point* where this energy exchange no longer has an impact.. and maybe that's a point we all need to reach eventually. I like the idea that at *that* point, good & evil are so perfectly intertwined that they become something else entirely and there is no such thing as one -or- the other, in opposition. Much like other oppositions which I believe dissolve: black, white - male, female - begging, ending..

But as things are in the "world" - the world available to our senses, vibes (positive and negative) are being sent constantly.

While most people may not send *extremely* negative vibes to another intentionally... They do send small-scale negative vibes daily. For example, here's a really standard-typical situation: Driver no.1 ends up directly behind the slow-poach Driver no.2. Driver no.1 is in a hurry to get to work or wherever else. They become annoyed and think of Driver no.2 as "irritating".

On the other hand we also have these vibes throw at us personally very very often throughout the day. Say a person sees a mother with a baby stroll and thinks "awwwwwwwww" - That's already a positive thought. Or say you get a taxi, and tell the driver at the end - to keep the change and get a coffee.. They *will* have a positive thought. Alternatively - say you accidentally cut in line and the person behind thinks it was done intentionally and they have a negative thought.. All of these situations are pretty common.

So personally - I think we are all used to having people in "our" heads sending vibes back and forth. But I do not believe these vibes affect us nearly as much as OUR OWN thoughts affect us.
In the case of an ill person who wants to DIE. You can have a million people around the world praying for them and sending positive thoughts, and it simply will not work - because they have a strong desire to die. That's my opinion anyway.

So I still think ultimately we each have our own inner strength and we choose to use that to heal and keep moving or we can choose to give up or we can choose whatever..

I think some people can infringe your rights - physically.. through force, through abuse.. But they could never do so psychologically depending on how psychologically & spiritually strong you are (I really think "strength" means something else entirely at this level.. and it is more akin to passivity and love, rather than "fighting" strength). There are rapists and criminals out there - true - and some people go through horrible things. Some die through murder, for example. But I see that all as a very "physical" breach of trust, breach of privacy, breach of free will etc.. I don't think it directly affects the person's spirit and psychology.. unless the person-soul allows it to.

posted April 06, 2010 04:55 PM         

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the universe wouldn't allow something

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I agree with you, because that statement doesn't make much sense to me. We really have no clue whatsoever consciously what the Universe, God, The Holy Cow, Budha (call it what you will) what IT would allow or not. I think it's all about the balance. The "Universe" keeps a karmic balance.. Which probably doesn't mean all that much on a personal level.

But each and every one of us can erase negative karma and create positive karma. The Universe won't do this for you. So it's really *you* who allows something to affect you.. and it's also you who stops it affecting you -- psychologically.

When it comes to negative thoughts I think the idea is that someone could wish that you get measles -- and for you to then get measles as a result of their wish.

posted April 06, 2010 05:34 PM         

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however, if someone has prayers, thoughts and incantations that mean to harm you willfully and they exert much energy with these prayers, incantations and thoughts, if you are not preparerd and protected ..you have no stregth to fight the unknown. protection is a must. then forgiveness, then positive energy. protection first.

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I'm not sure what to say about this. CPN - I can only tell you what I believe right now.. which may change in the future. I understand what you're saying. I'm almost inclined to agree.. but when I really dig deep and think about this - I can't help but see it differently.

When you say that - it sounds like there is *an attack*... and then there is a way to *protect* which the person can use to defend themselves from the attack.

But in my version *protection* is almost like a life-style.. If you are already in a frame of mind or in a mental "life-style" where attacks simply don't get to you.. Then there is no need for particular protection for every particular attack. I find that the people who are most protected are the ones who have a LOT happening - a LOT to think about - a LOT to do - a LOT of different people around them sending them thoughts. They are soooo focused on other things in their life that they simply can't be affected by someone sending negative thoughts.

The minute you focus on the person attacking - you already let them in. The minute you BELIEVE in their strength - you make them strong. The minute you believe that they can have an impact on your life - you give them that license. That's my gut feeling.
When you believe you need to protect and defend yourself from someone - that is an admittance that you see them as a *threat*.. It's saying "I am afraid of you. You are a threat. I know you are there and I will now protect myself from you".

But it doesn't need to get to that imo ^
The situation can be deflected.. You can ignore them completely.

Maybe it's my shifty piscean-ness lol and my mars-Neptune.. Maybe I'm under this impression because I would prefer avoiding someone out of my life.. to .. fighting them out of my life. This has usually worked better for me.

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abused children that remain affected by an unapproving parent who hates them. situations are not always in our control.teasel, kat, zala, iq and a few select others KNOW what i have gone through do to these things, and like a small kitten has no defense, sometimes people are like that, and have no defense until they LEARN as i did, how to. teasel may or may not remember, different screen name then, but she was there and kind to me then.

when someone threatens your childs life and your child almost dies, you don't really forget it.

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I think that's a matter of degree. Some things can really seem too horrible, too huge and insanely hurtful - for someone to deal with them and to remain in control. I'm not saying it would be easy to deflect negative situations and negative people. Sometimes you may end up in situations where it's extremely difficult. But I do believe in our own inner strength, including that of a child. I had a child in mind when I gave my measles example.
I think it's a little bit dangerous to believe someone else is in control.. because I think - like I said above - that gives them control.

But honestly CPN - I am only telling you what my own gut feeling and instincts are telling me.. which is really just my opinion anyway. And maybe I haven't had enough experience with this to have better judgement.

I am not saying any of this out of an avoidance of reality (as it may seem for someone reading). I do realize how hurtful abuse can be and how powerless it would make a child feel. But I do not believe a child *is* powerless.. even in that situation. Physically - yes.. Spiritually - No way.
Spiritually no one is ever powerless unless they make that choice and give away their power.

posted April 21, 2010 06:49 AM         

CPN,
The perpetrator has only deceived/cheated herself from her own evolution.

@Vapor,
Psychic Attacks are an actual Occult Science of the Left Hand Path. How do you think sudden accidents or plane crashes of "disobedient" leaders [like the recent Polish President's tragic murder ] conveniently occur to suit the established Powers, all of whom are connected to dark Occult Lodges?

George Mickelson [crash on the same day as Waco's tragic end. He was returning from a lobbying trip!]

Senator Paul Wellstone

Ron Brown

JFK Junior

Juan Mourno [drug fighting Mexican leader]

Hansie Cronje [The ex South African cricket Captain who knew each and every betting syndicate, and the politicans involved.]

In South Asia:

Gen Zia-Ul-Haq

Benazir Bhuto

Rajiv Gandhi

Rajesh Pilot and Madhavrao Scindia: Two top India Politicans who could have become Prime Minister. One died in a car crash just before elections.

YSR Reddy: Top Indian Politician threatening the establishment. Chopper crash.

Father Alan De-Lastic: Colossal Champion of Indian Christian rights, dies in a car crash days after speaking out for Indian Muslims against dark Hindu forces in India.

Hemant Karkare: He found out the truths that so called terrorist attacks against Indian Civilians.

All their deaths were very very convenient.
Too convenient rather. Had Rajiv Gandhi been alive for instance, there would not have been a single terrorist attack on Indian Soil.

I too did not believe in this until I came upon a copy of the EXACT working of this dark science, including systematic "download" of the malevolent spirit as a "Walk In" to an Assassin/Pilot/Driver.

The human who arranges this virtually sells his soul to the devil, is stuck forever in 4th D lower Astral. But they do enjoy their 3D Earth life though.

This stuff is very X-Files-ish, but it is true.

posted April 21, 2010 08:27 AM         

I could not maintain a positive attitude if I had fear or hate towards others, including murderers or "attackers".

And the word "protection" to me implies.. that there are *two* camps.. My camp.. and the enemy's camp.

I don't think in camps. I think in "we're all human-animal-spirit-whatever else.." -- terms.

posted April 23, 2010 10:20 AM         

Works for me!

Seriously.

posted April 23, 2010 10:39 AM         

"When power becomes gracious and descends into the visible -- such descent I call beauty. And there is nobody from whom I want beauty as much as from you who are powerful: let your kindness be your final conquest. Of all evil I deem you capable: therefore I want the good from you. Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
~ Nietzsche