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The Duke
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posted April 01, 2010 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
Has anyone gone that route? it'd be read much like depositors in a natal chart but can it be read also in synastry?

so for ex: partner 1. has libra on the ascendant.. partner 2. has venus in partner. 1's fifth house of aquarius..

can that be read? anybody wanna give it a go?

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posted April 02, 2010 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Dunno.
Doubt it.
But the dispositors of the natals themselves are important in synastry, so you could look at how your final dispositor(s) match with those of a love interest, etc.

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Ami Ann
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posted April 03, 2010 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Lonake
I have asked this question on another thread--so forgive me but I am trying to understand despositers.
Ok---you can look at each house with a planet in it----Say I have Sun in the 8th house in Gemini.
The Eighth house is a Scorpio house so Pluto is it's ruler. So,Pluto would be the despositer of my sun.
So, I would look and see Pluto conjunct my MC.
Then, what would be the next step?
Thanks so much!!!


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posted April 03, 2010 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
ami, you'd do depositors based on the sign that is in that house not the sign that normally rules it.. so you'd use mercury.. though it'd have the undertone of pluto in a very.. odd... way... ykno, ive had like three cups of coffee and for some reason im starting to feel funny.. im not even sure im thinking straight today i think i'll give this another go later.. but yea... mercury...

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Ami Ann
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posted April 03, 2010 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
THANK YOU Duke!. I had it wrong. OK---If I have a Gemini Sun, and Mercury in the 8th house---Mercury is the dispositor of the 8th house ---Right? Is that how I would phrase it?
Then --do I see what aspects Mercury makes?
Then--what can I conclude?
I MASSIVELY appreciate this ,Duke.

Mercury conjuncts Sun ---7 degrees
Mercury bi Quintile(I think that is the symbol) Saturn --1 degree
Mercury Trine Neptune--3 degrees
Mercury sextile Pluto---3 degrees
Mercury oppose True Node
Mercury Quintile(not sure what the symbol it. It looks like an oval) MC--1 degree

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posted April 03, 2010 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
glad i could help ami.. the depositors help get more of a feel for things. you;d have say for instance, your sun, which would be (example) in pisces, and a neptune in aquarius.. so well, one would be intuitive in a pisces sense but they'd do it in an aquarian way.. so they may know when a thunderstorm is coming or may pick up people's emotion through the internet.. stuff like that.. picking up thunderstorms isn't the best example but hopefully, you kinda get the drift.

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posted April 03, 2010 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Duke
Can I ask you ONE more question before you send me running ?

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posted April 03, 2010 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Duke
Can I ask you ONE more question before you send me running ?

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posted April 03, 2010 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I think I have part of it and I thank you very much ((Duke)))
For me
My Ascendent is Scorpio---So Pluto would be the chart ruler
My Venus, Mercury and Sun are in Gemini so Mercury is the dispositer of my Sun, Merc and Venus
My Uranus is in Cancer--so the moon would be the dispositer of Uranus
and so forth

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posted April 03, 2010 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You can check "YES" after each revelation

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posted April 03, 2010 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
you've got it!

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posted April 03, 2010 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message

I am considering my options

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Ami Ann
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posted April 03, 2010 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
OK

My Mercury is in Gemini. It's dispositer is Mercury.
It is in the 8th house so has Plutoian/Scorpio overtones.
Got that so far
Right?

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Ami Ann
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posted April 03, 2010 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I think that is right so I will go on to the next part.

OK So now I see WHAT Mercury is doing. It has a good trine to Neptune and a sextile to Pluto.
SO ---What would be my next step in interpretation.


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posted April 03, 2010 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
How'd you get to be so fiesty, it feels like Scorpio's "charm"......

OK, Just for our dear Ami,
1. astro.com go to free horoscopes
2. extended chart selection
3. 3rd group option "Pullen/astrolog"
4. select "sign/house dispositor graph"

you'll get something like this,

OK, see the circled planets those are the dispositors.

The left is for the planets based on rulerships.
The right is for the houses based on natural house rulerships, not the sign on the cusp.

Read the charts from the bottom up, and you'll see that in the on the left Venus and Saturn take over the whole chart, every planet in expression will ultimately end up back at Venus in mutual reception with Saturn. In this chart it's important that Venus and Saturn stay in good working order because if they start to get out of hand, it will start to throw off the chart and the energies will not be working as well as they could. Think of it like a drain being clogged.

You have Mercury dignified 'at home' in Gemini, so it'll be circled on your graph. It's important to look at aspects of dignifed planets to make sure they stay in good working order, since they're more their own network, if you will.

The house graphic is read from the bottom up, you see Uranus n Neptune at the bottom both leading up to the Sun, in this chart Uranus and Neptune are in house 5, which is naturally ruled by the Sun, note that here we're not paying attention to the sign on the cusp. And the chain goes on until it ends at the top, there are 2 planets there. This is because Venus is in one of Mercury's houses and Mercury is in one of Venus's houses. Do you think that Mercury and Venus in this chart have special relationship even if they're not in aspect? Yes they do since they're related by house dispositorship.

Some charts have 1 final dispositor, if there's a mutual reception it's likely that that those 2 will be the final dispositors.

Traditionally if there's more than 2, there is no 'real' final dispositor, I think mutual reception like this one is counted since the pair acts as one.

Each chart is unique. That's why even if you have 4 dispositors, if they're dignified then its aspects become v. important in the chart since its energy can easily run away with itself; it thinks it owns the place.

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Ami Ann
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posted April 04, 2010 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you (((Lonake))))))


Natural House rulerships would be Mars rules 1st house, Venus 2nd, Mercury 3rd etc.
This is IRRESPECTIVE of the sign on the cusp.
That is what you are saying----Right?


I am OFF to study Dispositers.

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posted April 04, 2010 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message

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posted April 04, 2010 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
? My Mercury Retrograde must be showing.

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posted April 04, 2010 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
That is what you are saying----Right?

You got it

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