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rajin
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posted April 06, 2010 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey VIG,
I am uploading the synastry chart pl. take a look and help me understand our relationship.

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posted April 06, 2010 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Well a bit about him.. From what I figured.

Hes a martial arts teacher but a wimp in real life. He thinks hes all that but he is not a passionate person. He trys to be romantic but I believe its his way of manipulating girls. It might work on young girls but im 26. Everyone thinks hes gorgeous but I just didnt find him that super attractive. Heres a picture of him


I think he doesnt have any self confidence and hes VERY COLD. Emotionally cold ! No drive, no passion no adrenaline and I think he lies alot and I just cant trust him. After a whole thread I made up talking about how **** he was in bed he lied to my friends telling them that he never wanted to sleep with me and I made it a game to get him. He comes across as really mature but what he said to my friend proves hes immature and a loser. Hes very polite though and people love him, he really got on my nerves. I think it might be that saturn conjunct venus thing.

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posted April 06, 2010 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
and my ex has his mars on my ascendant and its sexual. With him its hes annoying and irritating.

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posted April 06, 2010 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
sorry seems like something went wrong will try uploading again.

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Ami Ann
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posted April 06, 2010 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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and my ex has his mars on my ascendant and its sexual. With him its hes annoying and irritating.

LOL

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posted April 06, 2010 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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Ami Ann, I agree with you, I have Taurus NN, and I also feel that I need to develop some Taurus traits, like enjoying life and having more self value. SN is our comfortable zone, but it also represents certain traits that we need to overcome. Not to forget, but to overcome, so that the positive traits of our SN are still important to remember. For example, with Scorpio SN, I should overcome my obsessions and darkness, but I don't need to forget how valuable relationship bonds are (a positive Scorpio trait).


VERY interesting.
I have Gemini in my SN and there are so many good Gemini qualities. You are right.
I have Sag in my NN and I need to develop these badly.
These are the aspirational ones for me : the things I find hard.
My guy is very Sag so it is a role model for me to see how a Sag acts and reacts.
I have already changed from it as far s being bolder and more direct.
It does feel good to develop the NN traits but scary too


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posted April 06, 2010 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
That is very interesting about Saturn conjunct Venus, Belgz.
It makes sense.
You are probably feeling this aspect.
Also, he has the Pluto doing something.
I will look again
That seemed hard, too

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posted April 06, 2010 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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posted April 06, 2010 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
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So how does it play out in synastry. My Asc is in Pisces and my guy's NN is conj my Asc, so he needs to get in touch with his sensitive side?
He has 5 planets in Libra including the Sun. He is a mass of confusion since he comes back wanting to get back together and then if it gets serious starts doing things to destruct the relationship. How do I help him overcome this?

rajin, what kind of life lessons do you think that he needs? Also, how does your Pisces AC manifest? After getting an idea about these, you can try to think how his life lessons matches your AC traits, in order to see how it can help him.

Also, I guess that the reason the AC person is drawn to the NN person coz NN is the part of this person, that it's just like how our ACs can be attracted to any celestial objects that touches there (coz we can somehow identify ourselves with that part of that person).

But well, you have to figure it out if this is the real problem that keeps the relationship breaking, or is it coz of other factors.
Maybe posting a composite can help, since with the composite, it's easier to see where the problem of the relationship is (synastry can show where we are compatible/incompatible, and composite can show where the compatibility/incompatibility manifests).

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posted April 06, 2010 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Nooo thats me. Hahaha. I have saturn cnj pluto in 1st. It makes me a force to be reckoned with. lol. I think it makes me strong mentally and forceful. Determined and dedicated.

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posted April 06, 2010 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message

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posted April 06, 2010 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message
And what about Nodal axis exactly on IC/MC axis in synastry?
the North node conj. IC?
Maybe even more interesting is that guy's North node conjunct his Juno and the Node is right on girl's IC

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posted April 06, 2010 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hi comica,
I am very sensitive and get hurt easily(Pisces Asc) but I hide it pretty well and it takes people who know me very well to realize it. He has a fear of communicating deep feelings, guess he feels that it makes him vulnerable if the othe person does not reciprocate so he starts distancing himself the moment anyonetries to get close. He uses work as a shield and hides behind it as an excuse.
I am posting our composite. Pl. take a look and see if it gives any flavor to the story.

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posted April 06, 2010 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message
my friends northnode conjuncts my asc.
his venus conj my desc.

he wants a relationship & i don't really hve any special feelings for him. we've become pretty close in our 5-6 months of friendship. He's one person i can share a bit of my pain with which i find hard to express to others. I see him as a mature,honest,considerate person which is so unlike his leo sun description. I can actually lean on this guy during times of hardship.

composite,
sun sextile moon

synastry,(responsible for all the fun filled convos)
my jupe square his venus
my venus/merc trine his venus.
my moon conj his merc.

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posted April 06, 2010 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
rajin, maybe your Pisces AC can help him to free himself from this fear and surrender to sensitivity (accepting his own sensitive side) instead of retreating himself to reasoning (follow his heart and feelings - Pisces NN - instead of reasoning - Virgo SN). But it's important that you're comfortable with your AC, and that he's willing to work his own issues out bit by bit.

In your composite, you have Venus conjunct Sun on the DC, which is a very loving aspect (Sun/Venus conjunction is one of the classic love aspects, and it's even more emphasized on an angle). But I've noticed that Saturn/Uranus midpoint is square to AC/DC. This can show instability in the relationship, as well as a hard time to make decisions.
Also, Saturn is opposed to Mercury/Neptune midpoint, while Mars/Neptune midpoint is square to the Sun and DC. This seems to emphasize his confusion about this relationship.
I'm not very skilled yet, so that I'm just grabbing parts of this composite instead of being able to analyze everything as a whole. But maybe other more skilled astrologers can take a better look at your composite. X3

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posted April 06, 2010 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hi comica,
Thanks for teh quick analysis. You are pretty skilled and do notice things very analytically. Can you look at teh synastry and tell me what are the strong and weak aspects that need to be worked with? I have been trying to forget him but just cant. I am willing to do what it takes to make the relationship work but he has to meet me halfway at least. It seems like starts stonewalling me once he realizes that the emotions are strong.

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posted April 06, 2010 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
rajin, to be honest, I'm not very good at analyzing synastries of people I don't know in the real life, and I find it easier using composite rather to see where the problems usually resides (since the composite can show the nature of the relationship, and where the incompatibilities manifests).

But well, just as others mentioned, you both have a stellium in each other's 7th houses, which can indicate that you would easily see each other as ideal partners (your stelliums also gets along with each other). Also, his Moon is in your 4th house, so that you feel like home with him (his AC is also in the same sign, that although it's not as intense as a tight conjunction, it should still have a small effect).
Your Sun is conjunct his Neptune, so that he might idealize you (Neptune is also his NN ruler, so it might emphasize him associating you with his NN lessons even more and seeing you even more Piscean), and with your Saturn on his 12th house, you might as well influence his Piscean issues (you can become his teacher, but remember to not be too Saturn to him).
Also, his Chiron is in your 1st house, near your Chiron. Can you identify yourself with his pain/wound issues sometimes?

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posted April 06, 2010 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
By the way, how is the compatibility on the emotional level? Both of your Moons are almost unaspected in the synastry, so do you feel any lack of emotional connection?

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posted April 06, 2010 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message

With my guitar teacher ---our moons have no aspects.
We communicate intellectually and we share creative loves together BUT he does not get me ,emotionally.
He looks at me with "Duh?"

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posted April 06, 2010 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
I was wondering if someone could help me with the meanings of these... PLEASE!

In Synastry
My Cap MC in his 1st
His Vir MC in my 7th

My Can IC in his 7th
his Pis IC in my 12th

My Aries Ac in his 4th
His Sag Ac in my 8th

My Libra Dc in his 10th
His Gem Dc in my 2nd

Also our Asc. have a cross grand trine.
my 0 aries asc 2 sag neptune/his 0 leo jupiter
my 0 aries asc/ his 2 sag asc 0 leo jupiter

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posted April 06, 2010 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey comica,
I have tried to get close to him emotionally, he will let me close to a certain point and then shut me off.That was the reason I broke up with him, he would not include me in his triumphs or sorrows.
I have no idea how to get close to him and let him see that I care enough about him to not hurt him if he opens up to me.

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posted April 07, 2010 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Comica,
I looked at our synastry chart closely- my jupiter squares his venus and my pluto squares his moon.His NN squares my saturn. Do you think they all contribute to emotional excesses or emotional blackmail?

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posted April 07, 2010 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
To have Pluto squaring the moon seems hard.
I have a similar aspect with a person who started in a romantic way(long distance) but I could not go on with romance when we tried in actual life.
His Moon conjunct his Mars in Virgo squared my Sun in Gemini.
Worse still, his Saturn in Virgo squared my unaspected Venus.
I can feel these aspects when we are together .
However, we have good aspects too and these make us very good friends just not romantic.
The good aspect is His Sun conjuncts my Venus in Gemini--4 degrees.
We have a Uranus /moon conjunction too.

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posted April 07, 2010 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Ami,
Ours was a long distance thing too, I moved to his country to be near him and then the break happened. But is the square so bad that it will overcome all the other factors?

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posted April 07, 2010 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
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I looked at our synastry chart closely- my jupiter squares his venus and my pluto squares his moon.His NN squares my saturn. Do you think they all contribute to emotional excesses or emotional blackmail?

I guess that Jupiter square Venus isn't really problematic, as they are both joyful planets that they are probably enjoying hanging out with each other. But with Pluto square Moon, I wonder if you might come too intense in your care about his emotions that it might make him withdraw. You want to heal him, care for him, but it might seem too intense that it might seem as if you want to take control. And then it feels as if it's not controllable, and the Moon would seem to not let you care about him in some moments. But well, to tackle the conflict created by squares, the key is to balance the energies of both sides. Don't come too intense in your Plutonian energies, and if his Moon don't get too stubborn in being Cancerian Moon, then it can make things easier.

On the other hand, your Saturn isn't really square his NN, since the degree is too wide. But his Saturn seems to be squaring your NN instead. Do you feel that he has some influence in your life lessons? I guess that Saturn squaring NN can feel as if he is kinda putting cold water in your life lessons, or creating conflicts for it. But since you didn't mention this, if this isn't the case, then maybe it could also mean that you don't agree with his way of dealing with responsibilities?

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