posted April 08, 2010 01:00 PM         

When using an Earth-based system as the geocentric tropical astrological system, we are mainly examining the soul's lives on Earth. We're not examining the soul's overall lives.

From all the talk that I have seen on these boards, souls can have other lives on other planets as well as in other star systems,galaxies.

so I guess that when we are looking at the geocentric tropical based zodiac system, were looking at soul age from the earthly perceptive.

We're not looking at it from a cosmic perspective.

That's another reason why I have doubts about looking at old soul indicators in charts.

Deep space objects like black holes,quasars,pulsars,x-rays, and galactic anomalies can figure into the chart. Philip Sedgwick is big on those. He include information on those, heliocentric astrology,and centaurs/kuiper belt objects on his Galactic Trilogy CD which even has an e-book, Astronomy for Astrologers. http://www.philipsedgwick.com/Store/GalacticTrilogy.htm

Astrologers are already using fixed stars any way, so the can of worms have already been open in regards to deep space objects being used in Astrology just like Astrologers opened the can of worms in regards to transneptunian objects by using Pluto. They opened the can of worms in regards to centaurs by using Chiron. Astronomers discoveries shows the solar system is far more complexed than Astrologers ever realized. Astrological systems were based on a simplistic view of the solar system as well as simplistic view of the Universe which has been now been considered long outdated by recent astronomical discoveries.

There are astrologers that are already working on a Galactic Astrology system http://www.saros.zynet.co.uk/ingalast.html

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted April 08, 2010 02:39 PM         

My transneptunian aspects:

posted April 08, 2010 02:48 PM         

If' he's not an old soul then no one is so i'm now very skeptical about this true lunar node thing."

It's just an astrological theory. Things like that should always be taken with grain of salt. Anything in Astrology can be vigorously questioned just like Astrology itself is vigorously questioned. I definitely question Mainstream Western Astrology,and I view it as not very different from other astrological systems that been questioned by people who don't use those systems. I do believe that it's an outdated system just like I believe Vedic Astrology is too. However, both have their uses. I just don't see how these systems can be used to examine 21st Century times, people born in the 21st Century. People strong in 21st century objects are hard to understand by astrologers that use a 20th Century astrology system.

I am also skeptical of chart rectifications.
They tend to be based on a system based on the view of the solar system at the time.
Before the outerplanets and Pluto were discovered, astrologers were already doing rectification. They correlated events with certain transits. If a certain transit didn't hit a particular point, then the birthtime wasn't right not knowing that there was Uranus,Neptune,and Pluto in the Solar system. Well..I feel the same with how mainstream astrologers look at charts not knowing there are other objects that orbiting in Pluto's vicinity. Vedic Astologers and some minor Western Astrologers don't use Uranus,Neptune,and Pluto. They rectification charts without those objects.

Uranian Astrologers..........now that's a whole different story. They use hypothetical transneptunian objects that haven't even been discovered yet. They use in their rectification methods. I find that a bit more iffy than using a system that disregards modern astronomical discoveries.

" I am assuming Sd and Sr mean Sationary Direct and Stationary Retrograde."

That's correct.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted April 08, 2010 02:57 PM         

Cheshire,

maybe you're just being very humble.

I read that even old souls feel that there are many lessons to learn as they are always learning something something new.

It's like how astrologers feel like they are always students because there are so many things to learn in Astrology. We're always learning new things. Some might even be questioning the things that they learned too and consider new possibilities.

That's how innovation,discovery of other astrological systems and methods come to being. This even applies to science as well.

I don't think that discoveries of astronomers invalidates Astrology like critics of Astrology constantly claim. If anything,I believe that the discoveries of scientists help Astrology progress. This has been the case with the astronomers discovering Uranus,Neptune,Pluto which mainstream astrologers use regularly in charts.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted April 09, 2010 01:36 PM         

Moon, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Mars, Saturn, Ur, Pl, Nep - ALL in the last decanate! That's 9 out of the 10 planets! Not sure about the angles becasue I don't have an exact time of birth (could be an hour or so later than the time I have).
Capicorn Asc.
NN direct.

So, no lives for me anymore? I don't know what to think.