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staborgi
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posted April 12, 2010 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
So I realized I've never really considered what goes into a good working relationship when it comes to synastry or composites. I'm starting to work on some music and other related art projects with a very close friend of mine and wondering how our charts look for this? General thoughts on the topic also appreciated She has no idea of her birth time. After coming to know her quite well, my money is on Pisces as her ASC, so I plugged that in but who knows. ALSO- does anyone know of any relevant asteroids? I plugged in the muses of music and dance for now...
thanks for your thoughts and energy


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posted April 12, 2010 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
the composite has a lot of the aspects I was looking for in the synastry & couldn't find, save for one.

composite grand trine,
saturn mars jupiter

this is solid gold. absolutely one of the best aspect configs for working together. if pluto was attached to one of the legs, pref. conj jupiter, it would be *the best* imo.

these are the aspects i was looking for,
mars sex/trine mars,
jupiter/mars
jupiter/saturn
mars/saturn
jupiter/pluto
moon/mercury, sun, venus, jupiter (actually in this line all of these in good aspect is helpful.

one iffy i saw was mars opposed merc, infixed signs no less. but if youre not living together and can maintain boundaries it should present less of an issue.
sun opposed moon is actually a positive.
pluto opp sun shouldnt be a big deal since the sun person has that aspect natally. i think youre the pluto person here, if so, be mindful that the sun person may be on the lookout for power struggles somewhere along the line, just give them breathing room to flex their muscles and keeping in mind the merc opposed mars don't take it personally.

your natal jup trine saturn is good, you can teach their saturn about positive thinking and taking some calculated risks.

are you on the inside? your moon's conj my venus

the mars in the composite late leo brings a grand trine to your synastry adding the missing fire to the late aries/late sadge stelliums. this is fire raring to go!

composite moon sq uranus, sudden blowups from oversensitivity. also sun conj venus is in aquarius. so there's a good amount of detached energy here, which is actually good for stepping out of boundaries and trying to make it in something you're not used to.

overall i like it.
but i don't look at a lot of musician charts, tho i can't see much difference from reg. synastry, other than:
-composite needs to trump the synastry, bad composite will not keep the work relationship going.
-sun conj venus is pretty normal in composites in this field, also is the outer planets esp neptune in good aspect to the personal planets, since musicians want to take collective energy and put it into song, the outers tend to need to be in good working order.

uranus is a part of the grand trine too, looks good.

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posted April 12, 2010 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i would add that euterpe in 6th also looks good, especially since it is part of the grand trine lonake spotted...this is the asteroid for musicians and composing....and neptune in 10th indicates what you are working on too - though it is squaring the composite chart's nodes... which could mean you will have to duke it out to reach a meeting place at times!!

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posted April 12, 2010 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
To add to Lonake's interpretation, I would also look at Venus/Neptune since this is a creative partnership revolving around music.

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staborgi
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posted April 12, 2010 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys! Lonake-SO much of what you said is already true for our personal relationship! Interestingly, a lot of the things you mentioned to watch out for are present in our relationship but somehow get projected outward...I wonder why that is. Or at least they have thus far. Somehow we are really sympathetic and understand toward one another. Like we do deal with emotional outbursts for example, but often with one another about other people/things. Same goes for the power struggles you mentioned...I'm glad to hear these aspects bode well for a professional relationship! really excited to get going! And yes, I'm the inner person!

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posted April 12, 2010 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
Also wondering if there are any musicians or artists on the board and what aspects you guys have in your charts...I feel like a lot tells me that I will end up in the arts, but I'm always confused about what domain so I'm wondering if there is a way to distinguish that in a chart? Sometimes I feel like my chart could go any which way when it comes to my artistic inclinations....maybe that's the beauty of it...

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posted April 12, 2010 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
heyyy sounds good

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posted April 13, 2010 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
** and what aspects you guys have in your charts **
( edited ) ..
chart here ..
~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/hdchart.html ~

music be a hobby for me
i.e. am not a pro.

ran away from home at 16 ..
didn't take anything with me .. except my guitar ..
if my house was burning down .. i'd try 'n save my strat first ..
( no other living creatures be in this house except for moi .. and whatever scuttles under the floorboards )

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have been trying to note good days for playing i.e. astro transits ..
maybe there's some astro business in it ..
advising bands/groups when the best day for a get-together be ..

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posted April 13, 2010 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
hi Happy! Do you recognize anything in your chart that speaks to that?

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posted April 14, 2010 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ staborgi ~
** Do you recognize anything in your chart that speaks to that? **

which part of "that" ???
being possessive about my guitar ??
( it be like a very good friend and companion .. even on a bad day :-)
leaving home ?? ( probably saturn-venus with a dose of cancerian uranus )
good days for music making ?? ( so far venus 'n bm.lillith transits i think )

i've got 2 charts of musician friends here .. ( taurus and a capricorn )
one i get along with musicaly for the most part
the other one .. we clash in taste ( he loves folk music .. i don't )
both are long term friends ..

.. the capricorn was noodling on slide guitar when i met him at a pub ..
i just went up to him and complimented him about his playing ..
he later said he thought i was trying to pick-him-up ..
( his hair was seriously long at the time
( i assumed it was one of his cappy dry humour jokes as i'm 100 percent 'straight'
odd though .. he gave up playing slide guitar .. whereas i took to it to the point of injury

i'll get some charts sorted 'n post them ( synastrys )
make what u will out of the data :-) ..

had a really good connection with a taurean drummer ..
born same day as moi .. we were realy in sync rythm-wise ..
( like telepathy .. we were always 'knowing' what the other was going to do )
i loved playing bass to his drumming ..
( last i heard he 'lost-it' under his pluto opp. mars transit
( got involved with some 'heaviness' and 'drugs' and a shady lady

may as well add in a note of caution to aspiring drummers ..
turns out chronic back problems are part of price one can pay
( evidently many drummers develop serious back problems
( highlited on the radio recently as phill collins has been in hospital due to back pain

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oh and an apology ..
you once asked about a grand cross in my chart .. i.e. how had it effected moi thru life ..
well .. due to things that are going on .. i'm somewhat reluctant to post about my life on a public site ..
once a certain matter has been dealt with .. i'll feel more relaxed about it ..
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Happy Dragon
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posted April 15, 2010 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
.. two charts when i remembered to make a note of the astro setup .. for
days when guitar playing was working out better that usual

( symbols key here ~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/Symbols.html ~ )

~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/musicday_a.gif ~

~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/musicday_b.gif ~

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.. two synastry charts .. their birthtimes are aprox ..
relying on their mum's memory ..
1's mum just lives nearby .. i could ask 'n re-check
( edited as i'm too uncertain about 1's asc .. his chart is a midday chart )

both long-term friends ..

both are guitarists ..
1 sais he'd make a lousy bass player for some reason :-) also he doesn't like trad folk music
2 plays bass and mandolin as well .. and loves trad folk music ..

outside placements are 'others' ..
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1 .. we gel well together .. same taste in music ..
he is the best i've heard when it comes to playing hendrix songs ..
that is apart from 'snail-pace slim' of the 'hamsters'
.. though dave's tone is closer to j.h.
and he built his own effects .. dead ringers for what j.h. sounded like .. the guy is an accoustic genius
he's done modifications for 'marshall' as well ..

plays with much feeling .. i could listen to him play all day ..
he's an electrical engineer .. and really knows his tube amps 'n how to customise them

~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/m_dave.gif ~

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2 .. don't gel when it comes to playing .. we have very different tastes in music
although were on agreement about jimmy page :-)
i think the 'non-gel' is rythm ..
otherwise he's always offering to help me work on my instruments
( he used to restore antique furniture .. certainly knows his woodwork :-)

~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/snsa.gif ~
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( edit as i'm too uncertain about 1's asc )

2nd synastry chart has two odd symbols ..
be my way of marking eros and psyche in my chart
the sftwr allows placements to be inserted wherever one wants ..
so i substituted 2 placements ( 'east' n 'point of occult' .. for 'eros' and 'psyche )
looks like i turned that option off in one of the charts ..
( forgot all about that :-))

and in the synastry grids .. 'others' are the bottom row

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 15, 2010 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
for what it's worth ..

this is a synastry chart of dave's wife and himself ..
( dave is chart 1 in prev post )
~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/sdsynastry.gif ~

her placements are the inside chart ( main chart ) and her birthtime is known
his placements on the outside ( and bottom row of the grid ) are at 12-noon gmt

i suspect that maybe their moons might be in an opposition aspect
just guessing .. 'n knowing what he's like :-)

and yes .. she loves listening to him play his guitar :-) no doubt about that ..

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staborgi
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posted April 17, 2010 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
by that i meant what aspects do you see as pointing to your interest/practice of music? thanks for the synastry charts, interesting to look at in this context

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posted April 18, 2010 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
** by that i meant what aspects do you see as pointing to your interest/practice of music? **

i rekon neptune aspects for the main part ..
saturn in 3rd house .. as i can express feelings more easily on guitar than i can with words ..
pluto aspects .. probably somewhat determine type of music ..
uranus aspects invite an interest in electronics ..

i guess in some way the guitar is a bit of an emotional security blanket .. of sorts ..
don't know why i say that .. it just popped into my head :-)
seem to make a bit of sense ..
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maybe the best way is to look at a number of musicians charts 'n see what they have in common
e.g. mine and the two others above all show minor aspects between sun and neptune ..

i'd say to anyone who wants to play a musical intrument ..
just go for it .. never mind the astrology behind it ..
making music is just part of being human .. even if it's banging two sticks together to make a rythmn ..
or humming a tune ..
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