posted April 16, 2010 11:14 AM         

And as 2012 gets closer I cant help but think the Mayans could be right about disasters in the world and it coming to an end. There were never this many tsunamis and never any as bad as the one that happened in Malaysia.

posted April 16, 2010 12:19 PM         

Don't forget about Poland's President and Leaders dying in a plane crash, all the coal miners that died in West Virginia, the suicide bombing in Russia and President Obama talking about a Nuclear Weapon Treaty of some sort. And I know there are some more I am forgetting about... it's all not natural disasters...

posted April 16, 2010 12:23 PM         

Oh and doesnt nostradamus say something about a world leader dying or was that religion.. Im sure I heard this was one of the signs of the end of the world somewhere.

posted April 16, 2010 12:47 PM         

see IQ s thread about Earthquakes.

oh and i visit a site regularly that talks about why the quakes are taking place:

posted April 16, 2010 12:50 PM         

There are some unnamed transneptunian objects that are larger than dwarf planet Ceres. 2007 OR10 "Snow White" is the largest of them. It goes stationary retrograde in 1'49 Pisces on May 28, 2010.

I think that the naming of these objects which result in conscious awareness of the archetypal energy could be in synchronicity with significant events.

I'd pay attention to the times that these objects get their names.

I'd also pay attention to when astronomers announce certain objects being dwarf planets. There are quite a few that are very likely be dwarf planets. This especially goes for objects that are larger than dwarf planet, Ceres. Sedna,"Snow White",Orcus, Quaoar,and a few others.

in December 2012, Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planets, Haumea and Eris will be in opposition to each

on December 21, 2012

Haumea in 20'24 Libra
Eris in 21'38 Aries R

Transneptunian dwarf planet, Makemake goes stationary retrograde on December 28, 2010 in 29'50 Virgo. It's not only in the last degree Virgo. It's in opposition to the Aries Point with 10 minutes of arc. With Makemake being stationary, that aspect is even stronger. I'd pay close attention to that time.

December 3, 2012 is when transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino,Orcus goes stationary retrograde in 5'04 Virgo. It's named after the Etruscan counterpart of Pluto. It's an underworld archetypal energy like Pluto.

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Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted April 16, 2010 01:17 PM         

Well..Eris is associated with diversity,equality,discord,controversy

Haumea is named after the Hawaiian Fertility Creation Goddess. It and Makemake are the only dwarf planets that are named after deities that are not Roman/Greek nor any type of European culture deity for that matter. Haumea and Makemake are named after deities of Polynesian culture. They could be related to ethnic minority matters.

I can't help think that a Haumea-Eris opposition might have something to do with controversy,discord involving ethnic minority populations.

Both Eris and Haumea are female archetypal energies. I think that it could be related to women. There could be some female controversial matters.

November 2012 is when the next American Presidential Election will take place. January 2013 is when the President-Elect will be inaugurated.

Eris goes stationary direct on January 8, 2013.

Haumea goes stationary retrograde on January 18,2013 which is around time of Presidential Inauguration.

It's possible that Barack Obama will be just a 1 term president and will lose against a Republican that might be so conservative that the rights of women,homosexuals,and ethnic minorities might be in jeopardy.
It's possible that politics of fear will prevail in the next presidential election will ironically lead to more fear.

I'd pay attention to the period of January 8, 2013 thru January 18, 2013.

"Can we expect the worse? Why were the Mayans waiting for this day like as if theres something major about it? I watched a documentary on cable T.V and the pyramids are apparently lined up in a certian wa to ward off something on that particular day."

I don't know. I don't believe in the doom stuff.

I believe that it could be a change of consciousness though.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted April 16, 2010 02:24 PM         

Diandra,

posted April 16, 2010 02:52 PM         

Also, there are usually *a lot* of earthquakes...the media is focusing on it more these days so it just looks 'nonstop'.

Meanwhile, this stuff happens constantly.

posted April 16, 2010 03:24 PM         

I love your Virgo common sense and practicalness.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted April 16, 2010 03:28 PM         

Hmmm but I thought that the poles shifting happens all the time anyway? But it just happens slowly...

posted April 16, 2010 03:43 PM         

"Scientists have long known that the magnetic pole moves. James Ross located the pole for the first time in 1831 after an exhausting arctic journey during which his ship got stuck in the ice for four years. No one returned until the next century. In 1904, Roald Amundsen found the pole again and discovered that it had moved--at least 50 km since the days of Ross.

The pole kept going during the 20th century, north at an average speed of 10 km per year, lately accelerating "to 40 km per year," says Newitt. At this rate it will exit North America and reach Siberia in a few decades.

Keeping track of the north magnetic pole is Newitt's job. "We usually go out and check its location once every few years," he says. "We'll have to make more trips now that it is moving so quickly."

Earth's magnetic field is changing in other ways, too: Compass needles in Africa, for instance, are drifting about 1 degree per decade. And globally the magnetic field has weakened 10% since the 19th century. When this was mentioned by researchers at a recent meeting of the American Geophysical Union, many newspapers carried the story. A typical headline: "Is Earth's magnetic field collapsing?"

Probably not. As remarkable as these changes sound, "they're mild compared to what Earth's magnetic field has done in the past," says University of California professor Gary Glatzmaier.

Sometimes the field completely flips. The north and the south poles swap places. Such reversals, recorded in the magnetism of ancient rocks, are unpredictable. They come at irregular intervals averaging about 300,000 years; the last one was 780,000 years ago. Are we overdue for another? No one knows.

Above: Magnetic stripes around mid-ocean ridges reveal the history of Earth's magnetic field for millions of years. The study of Earth's past magnetism is called paleomagnetism. Image credit: USGS. [More]

According to Glatzmaier, the ongoing 10% decline doesn't mean that a reversal is imminent. "The field is increasing or decreasing all the time," he says. "We know this from studies of the paleomagnetic record." Earth's present-day magnetic field is, in fact, much stronger than normal. The dipole moment, a measure of the intensity of the magnetic field, is now 8 x 1022 amps x m2. That's twice the million-year average of 4 x 1022 amps x m2.

To understand what's happening, says Glatzmaier, we have to take a trip ... to the center of the Earth where the magnetic field is produced.

At the heart of our planet lies a solid iron ball, about as hot as the surface of the sun. Researchers call it "the inner core." It's really a world within a world. The inner core is 70% as wide as the moon. It spins at its own rate, as much as 0.2o of longitude per year faster than the Earth above it, and it has its own ocean: a very deep layer of liquid iron known as "the outer core."
Earth's magnetic field comes from this ocean of iron, which is an electrically conducting fluid in constant motion. Sitting atop the hot inner core, the liquid outer core seethes and roils like water in a pan on a hot stove. The outer core also has "hurricanes"--whirlpools powered by the Coriolis forces of Earth's rotation. These complex motions generate our planet's magnetism through a process called the dynamo effect.

Using the equations of magnetohydrodynamics, a branch of physics dealing with conducting fluids and magnetic fields, Glatzmaier and colleague Paul Roberts have created a supercomputer model of Earth's interior. Their software heats the inner core, stirs the metallic ocean above it, then calculates the resulting magnetic field. They run their code for hundreds of thousands of simulated years and watch what happens.

What they see mimics the real Earth: The magnetic field waxes and wanes, poles drift and, occasionally, flip. Change is normal, they've learned. And no wonder. The source of the field, the outer core, is itself seething, swirling, turbulent. "It's chaotic down there," notes Glatzmaier. The changes we detect on our planet's surface are a sign of that inner chaos.

They've also learned what happens during a magnetic flip. Reversals take a few thousand years to complete, and during that time--contrary to popular belief--the magnetic field does not vanish. "It just gets more complicated," says Glatzmaier. Magnetic lines of force near Earth's surface become twisted and tangled, and magnetic poles pop up in unaccustomed places. A south magnetic pole might emerge over Africa, for instance, or a north pole over Tahiti. Weird. But it's still a planetary magnetic field, and it still protects us from space radiation and solar storms.
And, as a bonus, Tahiti could be a great place to see the Northern Lights. In such a time, Larry Newitt's job would be different. Instead of shivering in Resolute Bay, he could enjoy the warm South Pacific, hopping from island to island, hunting for magnetic poles while auroras danced overhead.

posted April 16, 2010 03:51 PM         

I admit, having an Aqua in my life who is also a huge science geek helps because he will talk for hours about this stuff and in the process all the doom and gloom of 2012 stuff fades in the very presence of certain facts. It's refreshing to look and see what the fuss is all about because it''s very interesting to learn about the world we live in. My Virgo mind finds logic and facts very soothing in the face of general hysteria

posted April 16, 2010 03:59 PM         

So your saying we're late for a shift?

What happened 300,000 years ago with the last shift? Are we expecting a major tsunami to take out half the world? If it's happening slowly isn't that good enough?