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lionseye***
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posted April 20, 2010 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
It's not easy to be under the influence of Sagittarius as a female.

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lionseye***
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posted April 20, 2010 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
Staborgi, I'd like to know you more, if you don't mind

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staborgi
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posted April 20, 2010 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
I'm really feeling all the Sag love in here! Sometimes I feel like Sag's are hard to come by? Or I don't attract as many of them in my life...but I seriously am in love with/awed and inspired by Sags...besos!!
and hi again lionseye! I don't mind at all...what did you have in mind exactly? In response to your comment about change...I don't know! I still don't really understand myself...I did realize not too long ago though that movement is a huge thing for me. I realized this from a kind of abstract perspective and sometimes it's hard for me to see how I can integrate that into my daily life....daily life can be such a drag! And like you said, it's hard to fathom being able to experience a life of constant change. But I think embracing that notion from an abstract perspective (this came about eventually from lots of different sources) has been really inspiring for me especially when I can find links to this via the physical realm. I think this is where the higher and lower road of things come in...and both are important to me. I think Sag influence is also really sensory too and when that can connect to the big, broad flights of imagination and sense of the world at large...that to me is the definition of joy. It wasn't too long after I realized that I need movement in my personal life that I started becoming more physically active as well and I think that is a HUGE help for Sags...I always read that and I denied it for a long time because I am also super glutenous and lazy lol but I can't tell you HOW MUCH this helps change my state of mind. I used to roll my eyes any time anyone suggested exercise for depression but it really does help me get out of myself. NOT traditional exercise though, I throw up a little when I see people running in circles in spandex around my neighborhood. But dancing is a big one, walking around the city or parks, anything linked to somehow being physically in tune with something else like music or nature. I think this is important because like you said, its unrealistic to think we can upturn our entire lives every time we feel like we're in a funk of boredom and its funny to me that I get the same satisfaction and inspiration from movement in my personal/mental realm as I do in my physical world. But this is entirely my personal experience and now I've gone on a rant that might have nothing to do with anyone but me...I wonder, if you don't mind, what have you been feeling lately exactly?

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posted April 20, 2010 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
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It wasn't too long after I realized that I need movement in my personal life that I started becoming more physically active as well and I think that is a HUGE help for Sags...

We Saggies can get physically ill if we don't move around. Lock me in between 4 walls for a day and I get sooooo depressed. The only cure is to go out and be in nature.

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nigel
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posted April 20, 2010 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nigel     Edit/Delete Message
staborgi -

I love your comment about our need, as sags, for movement. As a child and teen I felt quite disconnected from my body and was often plagued by depression. I've since discovered yoga and other forms of movement and exercise that help me find my center.

Self-discovery through movement and feeling grounded and in my body really helped me cope with hard times.

The trouble is reminding myself to re-connect when my life is getting busier and more hectic than I would like. Taking some time out to do yoga or dance can go a long way!

Thanks for sharing

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lionseye***
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posted April 21, 2010 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
I once read that Saggies do best running free in the great outdoors, much like a horse would, and they excel at team sports played on an open grassy feild. I do feel better when I am moving in a vigorous way on a regular basis, that's true. But alas I am also a lazy slug, and a working mom with a 16 month old Saggie baby girl so it's hard to make the time. But that's just an excuse really. My problem is that I hate the way my body looks right now and I don't know how to stay motivated to excersize with the demands of being a mommy and a good employee and a good wifey type. I have alot of people that depend on me and I am not going to let them down, and when that's all done I just want to relax. But yeah...I need to move more. Move for the sake of moving. And I need more fun in my life. Maybe I need to take a dance class or yoga or pilates or yogalates (I made that up but I bet it exists lol...)
Why do we have such a hard time saying when we're not happy? Is it a crime to "be a downer" and share sad or negative feelings sometimes? We take them in from others like no problem. I guess that's part of the problem. If we're always trying to lift others up, it would be counter productive to put our own downer thoughts on them. They may not be able to take it or really help at all. Then again maybe we need to have more faith. In other people. and in the future. As long as we are alive, there is always the chance of a better tomorrow. So it's all just silly anyway.
Nevermind.

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staborgi
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posted April 21, 2010 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
lionseye! you have so much on your plate! no wonder! i hope you can make some time for yourself though. Also, something I learned hard during my funky period....you SHOULD reach out to others, there are people who love you and want to help you
sending beams of my best to you!
be well!

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Spanky Butler
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posted April 21, 2010 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lionseye

I just wanted to tell you that indeed Yogalates does exist. Google Louise Solomon & Yogalates & you will find her website.

I have the video & it's awesome, especially for mums, or in your case, moms, lol. The work outs are great for putting things back where they belong if you get what I mean. I always feel better afterwards & I've been meaning to get back into it myself.

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posted April 21, 2010 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lioneye,

I think it depends on the overall situation. I don't do depression. I get sad, I'll get down but full on depression is very foreign to me. One would think that the hardest thing to go through, Bear's two deployments, would have caused me to become depressed- but they didn't. I was still able to communicate with him and I knew he would be coming home. I was also extremely busy getting things done and working while in Germany.

Someone said it earlier- stagnation- that is a real downer. To prevent that, I will do other things- work on the house, plants or volunteer to take up time in between work. Right now is a bit of a pissy time because once again, we have moved and I have to find work again. My old boss wants to hire me to write grants again, but the county has a hiring freeze. I receive the rejections from on post and just go on.

The toughest time for me was living in Oregon during my second year of college without my pets. I seem to thrive when I have my four-leggeds around, even if I am being a home body.

When I am sad, like you, I have a hard time getting it out or talking about it. Mostly, I will get quiet and maybe a little cranky. Bear is wonderful at understanding and I know I can confide in him, but I know that I still hold back my inner most sadness or when I feel like I may not get that job. Yet, things always work out and I remind myself that while I may be going through a less than wonderful time now, soon it will be over and I will have landed on my feet LOL..

BearsArcher (formerly pidaua)

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Aries Moon
Sag Venus
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racole12
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posted April 21, 2010 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a Sag (Sun, Neptune, Mercury, Mars and DSC in Sag) I don't like showing my depression to people... I do go thru it (Sun conj Neptune very tightly). I'm the one that likes to inspire and motivate people to live out their dreams. (Neptune rules my MC also) When I was younger, when I would have the smallest depression episode I would think there was something seriously wrong with me and go straight to the doctor and demand that I needed to be on a anti-depressants- that it wasn't normal to be sad every once in a while! LOL. Finally, I know how that it's human to not always be happy, that I don't have to hide it from people and it's OK. Now when it happens I just usually cry and laugh at myself at the same time- just keep reminding myself- I'm human. lol.

Anyway, if you don't experience the lows of life how are you going to be able to recognize the highs? There is always something good that turns up from a negative situation

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racole12
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posted April 21, 2010 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
oh, to add something else... don't ever allow a sag to get bored- then I usually over think (to keep myself busy) which leads me to my depression. LOL

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soulful122
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posted April 21, 2010 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message
lionseye -
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I once read that Saggies do best running free in the great outdoors, much like a horse would, and they excel at team sports played on an open grassy field.

It's true lionseye, I love running! My dad has Venus in Sag and he likes to run also. Favorite way to exercise.

racole12 -

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Anyway, if you don't experience the lows of life how are you going to be able to recognize the highs? There is always something good that turns up from a negative situation

Very true, I couldn't agree more.

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GypseeWind
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posted April 21, 2010 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
One of the things that depresses me is routine. Any routine, even if it's fun!

I absolutely CANNOT do the same thing every day at the same time, or I go bonkers.
This is why I have no career.

You know how people get nervous the very first day of a job?
Well, my ideal job would be a job of first days of different jobs every day!!

I can't stand knowing what to expect. Even in some of the more glamorous jobs I've had, eventually everything is just a version of something else.

I watch clocks, and the walls close in.

That is what depresses me.

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posted April 23, 2010 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message
i laugh throughout the day,don't get easily upset or remain sad for long but deep inside i feel lost.

i get bored/depressed when my life lacks adventure as it does now..
i've so much of fun with my bf !!!
once,we literally RAN to a temple 30 minutes away from our homes(we're neighbours over there)barefeet on an empty stomach .
folks were staring at us.

the thought of a meaningless existence depresses me the most..other than that,i've no reason to be sad but i hve no reason to be happy either...
em really bored of this country where everyone's so stuck with appearances,noone likes being silly,friendliness is not much heard of,human nor animal is seen on the road...cars,cars & cars....i wanna be with him close to nature...........

em a sag venus & i too luv walking!!!!

blah blah.

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lionseye***
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posted April 25, 2010 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
Aw, that does seem sad. Living in world where everybody does what they should and never do anything weird or spontanious. Running barefoot in the night? Crazy!
How can we ever be like that? Stable, normal, reliable, etc? How can we be good parents if we can't handle being stable, consistant, reliable people? We just need to suck it up and have an active hobby. yogalates 3 times a week or something.

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posted April 25, 2010 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
Bearsarcher, Pid. Hi sweetheart!

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lionseye***
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posted May 01, 2010 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
racole12
love it. Love what you said and couldn't agree more
staborgi you complete me lol..I think I love you. Not to be fickle but I couldn't have asked for a better reply than what you gave me. I felt better immediately

Yin I forgot that I always have you for Saggie simplicity. Maybe if I'd been around here more and getting your snap feedback I wouldn't have ever lost perspective in the first place. ¢¾

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lionseye***
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posted May 01, 2010 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not done addressing you all. Just ran out of time. But I truly snapped out of my self pity because of this thread so thank you to every one of you. I'm glad I started the thread but I feel....I dunno.....kinda silly now or something. Cuz I don't feel that way anymore and I'm sorry for the drama or something. But the amount of feedback was cool. Maybe Saggies do need permission to admit saddness or depression and this thread provided it. So let's never speak of this again. lol...

shout out to Pid

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racole12
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posted May 02, 2010 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
GypseeWind...

I couldn't agree with you more! I'm 31 and I have had at least 41 jobs in my life. I've finally gotten to a point where I'm starting my own free-lance design business so I can work when I want (like in the middle of the night) and work where ever I want (like if I just want to pick up and go to Greece for a week or two)... I can't stand routine...

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