posted April 21, 2010 02:08 AM            

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LOL You are really persistent!

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posted April 21, 2010 03:04 AM            

*applauding*

posted April 21, 2010 12:00 PM            

"Through your interaction with him you feel like you are learning to own your power (Mars/Bml and Bml/Asc) and his influence makes you want to stand strong in your own right, to get in touch with deeply feminine urges,"
Absolutely. Yes. Not even interaction, but I have been learning a lot about myself, and it has not been pleasant all the time.

" so with this I think you feel a sexual attraction to his basic energy (Sun). maybe you also try to reign in the feeling he brings up in you."
Well, maybe I would have felt sexual attraction, but the knowledge of his sexual orientation blocks it completely, which is a good thing I think.

"he Uranus/Mc introduces changes in you and your aims, he breathes new life into your aspirations."
Yes he became a big inspiration for me.

"OK big time Uranus. On an emotional level she might find this relationship to be electrifying and incredibly stimulating (maybe to the point of irritation/exhaustion with Mars/Uranus). OK She's propelled to express herself in a much different manner than usual for her when around him (Uranus/Asc), she may be inclined to pursue Arts as an aim as a result of this relationship (Venus/Mc)"
All of that is true.
I have MC in Libra squaring Venus in 1st house - so I actually DO have some creative inclinations. It was like some of that creative potential was triggered when I "met" him. First I was writing hundreds of poems, and that slowly led me to write some stories, and I also wrote a little play based on the exodus for the local church. Actually they asked me to write another one for christmas later this year.

"OK Through talking with him there may be a block here regarding her perceived limitations (Sun/Saturn) so she could set limits on the communication."
Yes, in a way that`s true. I have even "avoided" any kind of communication.
And when I chatted with him, it somehow happened "out of the blue, surprising" - Uranus-like. lol

"ssibly creating a giddy effect in her where she waits to hear from him again just to see what new thing he'll say."
Yes, he`s the funniest guy I have ever seen.

" But the Moon/Saturn she may feel unsure regarding his affections but her inclination is to build a strong emotional bond, so this is one indication of her wanting a commitment"
Yes, probably, and maybe the reason that this "crush / liking" has lasted for 20 years now.

"His energy triggers ooh la la lots of sexual energy in her."
It made me laugh when I saw these midpoints triggered.

posted April 21, 2010 12:00 PM            

It`s kinda strange, on several musical-concerts, whenever I had been sitting in first or second row, and it was a concert, where the performers would try to "connect" to the audience, most of the times they addressed me. Not just one of them, several. Don`t know what that is. My friend sais it`s my face, it is "speaking" without saying a word, that I am, even while listening, I am speaking through my facial expression very vividly. Must be that.

BTW I was at a musical yesterday (not in the first rows though ) and I couldn`t help but noticing HOW beautiful, handsome, pretty, appealing and charming one of the male performers was. He was dazzling!
So I looked his chart up when I came home, cause I was curious.

And he is Capricorn! Again! The men I find most beautiful seem to be all Capricorns. How is that?
Well, in this case - and that made me giggle a bit- his Sun is conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp.
(And his Moon conjuncts my Mars, ASC, NN and Neptune. lol).

posted April 21, 2010 12:16 PM            

"OK when she talks to him he feels again the Sun/Jupiter so there's a livening and quickening of his confidence and basic strength."
On the occasion we met and chatted I got the feeling he liked me, or maybe he was a little bit amused by me. lol
Of course that can be a total delusive thinking here. Let`s not forget I have Neptune on ASC, gotta be careful about delusions here.

"On the Saturn/Neptune front again he's encouraged to breathe life into something that may have eluded him in the past."
I thought that was a very beautiful way to describe Saturn/Neptune.

"On the emotional level there is a feeling of deep intuitive connection (Moon/Neptune) "
His Neptune is also on th exact antiscion of my Moon and squaring my Moon widely (4 degrees).

"Conj his Sn there would be a feeling that this is what home used to be, and she would likely feel the same. So there's intuitive connection from the past"
Yes, I`ve got that feeling very strongly, too. Maybe an old family connection.

"h they both evoke Venus/Pluto through the other's Venus so deep intense DW here."
His Pluto is trine my Venus, too. Actually we have a grand trine of his Venus on 4 Taurus, his Pluto on 8 Virgo and my Venus on 6 Capricorn.
And my Venus is exactly opposing his Venus/Pluto-mp therefore.

" When she expresses her loving feminine nature he may feel lost in a big dream that could throw him as he's not used to this level of fascination."
ROFL
But I see where you come from with your interpretation, the simultaneous Jupiter/Neptune and Venus/Pluto being there, and I think it is a possible and good way to interprete this aspect this way, even though of course in this particular case it is not the normal case of "man-woman"-scenario.

"In a career/ social context he seems to experience her in very intense ways."
Well, that is an important factor, even though is MC would be more significant I guess.

"cal being she stimulates him strongly in possibly a perverse or unusual manner (mars/uranus)"
What do you mean by perverse? lol

" him to keep quiet (merc/saturn) and strongly regulate what he says to her, and to keep his thoughts very structured and to not say anything that isn't sincere. So he may say nothing than say something off base/off balance."
That feels so true. Yes, indeed. It is what the situation "demands" I guess.

"and feeling a taste of what passion is through him."
I did. That is the weirdest thing, I have memories of a passion that never existed in the first place. How can I remember (emotionally) something that never has been?

A+++

Oh and you did great on the Nodes and BML. Thank you so much for doing this.

posted April 21, 2010 12:21 PM            

I put into bold those I liked the most or thought to be dramatically significant.

MY ASC = his

venus/jupiter
mercury/jupiter
moon/saturn
ASC/NN

MY SUN = his

saturn/neptune
uranus/neptune
venus/ASC
mercury/ASC
sun/NN

MY NN = his

saturn/pluto
jupiter/NN
mars/uranus
uranus/pluto

MY venus = his

moon/mars
moon/uranus

MY moon = his

mars/jupiter
jupiter/uranus
venus/NN
Mercury/NN

My Mars = his

venus/neptune
sun/jupiter

My MC = his

venus/pluto
mercury/pluto

his NN = my
sun/venus
sun/uranus
venus/pluto
venus/jupiter
pluto/ASC

his ASC = my
merc/saturn

his venus= my
venus/neptune
saturn/pluto

his moon = my
moon/venus
mars/neptune

his sun = my
moon/ mercury

His MC = my
[b]pluto/ NN
venus/ ASC]/b]
mars/ MC

Sorry, I am too tired right now to try an interpretation.

posted April 22, 2010 12:47 AM            

"That was DAMNED GOOD!"
Ahhh! You know better than to say that to a Leo Asc

"It was like some of that creative potential was triggered when I "met" him. First I was writing hundreds of poems, and that slowly led me to write some stories"
I completely believe from this that he is one of your soulmates.

"And he is Capricorn! Again! The men I find most beautiful seem to be all Capricorns. How is that?
Well, in this case - and that made me giggle a bit- his Sun is conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp."
Me too I've been thinking so much more about my mp's, is your SunMoon @ mid capricorn? Mine's 15 Aquarius.

"My Venus seems to be really drawn to these Cappy guys, but they are really SOO goodlooking, aren`t they?"
That's too funny, I'm capricorn venus too, and I've never thought one of em v.attractive. I like the Capricorn mercuries, venus, and moons. I'm actually physically attracted to men whose merc is around my venus, I may be crazy but I think I can see people's Mercury in their looks/manner lol.

"His Pluto is trine my Venus, too. Actually we have a grand trine of his Venus on 4 Taurus, his Pluto on 8 Virgo and my Venus on 6 Capricorn.
And my Venus is exactly opposing his Venus/Pluto-mp therefore."
Wow. That is across the board! In the composite and synastry of the list I posted here, there is a ton of Mercury action to personal planets.

"What do you mean by perverse? lol"
I meant he could act out in an unusual manner reeling from the energy she gives him. And Uranus does rule perversity, etc. so I added it because it's 'expect the unexpected'

"I have memories of a passion"
This was in relation to his pluto squaring your nodes right? I do really think the square gives the node person a time to rest and regroup along their way to their NN, since it's so exhausting lol (imo). I don't mind squares to my nodal axis it gives me a chance to get my bearings a bit, see what i've learned so far and how far i have to go, i get to test my new strengths. I think his pluto squaring your nodes -in addition- to the copious venus/pluto back and forth is really important here.

posted April 22, 2010 03:25 PM            

"oo I've been thinking so much more about my mp's, is your SunMoon @ mid capricorn? Mine's 15 Aquarius."
Yeah, I am midpointing all around. lol
my Sun/Moon is 21 Capricorn.

Interestingly my Moon is 17 Aquarius, so my Moon conjuncts your Sun/Moon. Not bad, hu?

""That's too funny, I'm capricorn venus too, and I've never thought one of em v.attractive."
Well, Venus rules my 5th house, and I really have to have her triggered or I won`t feel any attraction. I wonder if it is enough to have a Venus-midpoint triggered though.

"I may be crazy but I think I can see people's Mercury in their looks/manner lol."
Not crazy. I think we see a lot of Mercury in other people. The way they use their body, which implies language and voice as well as manners, too.

"I do really think the square gives the node person a time to rest and regroup along their way to their NN, since it's so exhausting lol (imo)"
That`s so cool. That is a really good idea about squares to the nodal axis. Well, to me the NN is very familar, actually I AM my NN as my ASC is conjunct it. lol

" squaring your nodes -in addition- to the copious venus/pluto back and forth is really important here."
It is. Funny though the ruler of his 8th house (Pluto) squares my nodal axis, and the ruler of my 8th house (Moon) conjuncts his SN.

"Ooh, but it's a lot harder than regular synastry, but I'm so happy I get a new way to look @ the charts "
Only because w are not used to it I think.
I also think it demands a lot more structured mental action than the conventional ways, but once internalised, it is really rewarding.

posted April 25, 2010 01:08 AM            

"actually I AM my NN as my ASC is conjunct it"
This is very cool , but do you struggle with expression sometimes from this? Or is it an easier flow?

"demands a lot more structured mental action"
this is the truth.

"Interestingly my Moon is 17 Aquarius, so my Moon conjuncts your Sun/Moon. Not bad, hu?"
That's so cool, I have a ton of sagittarius mp's and they're all with my moon/venus interacting with my mars/saturn/pluto.

posted April 25, 2010 05:27 AM            

yes I think it is valid to see if composite placements trigger natal midpoints.

Regarding the NN-ASC question. Well, what do you mean by struggling with expression?

posted April 25, 2010 04:37 PM            

The only thing I can say about it is, that I have always been very much my ASC, which is even more messed, as Mars is conjunct it from 12th house and Neptune conjunct it from 1st house. So in my case it is actually a Mars-Neptune-Jupiter(Sag) mix, and that has always been me.
BUT it took some time to gain awareness of that I am like that, even though for other people it was easy to see. Well, I connected strongly to my Neptune; the Martian energy is the one that is complicated to express consciously.

posted April 30, 2010 08:36 AM            

For example,
Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward have:
her sd venus/mars = his tr sun
his tr sun/moon = her sd venus

A 23yrs couple:
they don't have venus-mars aspect in their tropical ( EDIT: except his venus sextile her mars ), but they have:
her tr venus/mars = his sd mars
her sd venus/mars = his tr venus

A TF couple:
her tr venus/mars = his sd venus
his tr venus/mars = her sd venus

How do you think of that? Does it work?

posted April 30, 2010 12:09 PM            

I haven`t researched midpoints from sidreal to tropical. But I think we have to be careful not to be including too much, as we will then ALWAYS find some connections. On the other hand we do compare sidereal to tropical, so why not midpoints?
But I would focus on exact conjunctions / oppositions then.