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Topic: Loyalty in signs
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lalalinda Moderator Posts: 4998 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2010 02:36 AM
Loyalty is a fixed sign quality, I'm kind of surprised so many knowflakes have had issues with Aquarians.If a Scorpio isn't loyal, it's because you've done something to them in the past and they've just been biding their time. Fickle signs are usually Mutable, I noticed that Pisces isn't high on the loyality list. (above) Out Everyone IP: Logged |
Diablo Knowflake Posts: 888 From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 03, 2010 03:30 AM
Can't get more loyal or protective than a Cancerian. Except maybe a Leo or Taurus. IP: Logged |
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posted May 03, 2010 04:05 AM
Me:Sun Cancer Moon Gemini Mars Cancer Mercury Cancer Venus Leo Asc Virgo I can't say i'm 100% loyal because i'm not. I have been on/off with my ex for 10 years and i'm always looking for a way out because hes pushed me away for so long so i guess my circumstances are different. Other than my ex i was madly in love with another guy and dating him overseas and when i was 19 i kissed another guy, i think the reason was i was so in love with my bf i wanted out of those deep emotions cause i feared getting hurt. Now also i'm young and not committed unless im married otherwise alot of these relationships come and go. I dont regret it because i can justify what i do, and i have been cheated on once by a guy who i didnt sleep with and it doesnt bother me or make me jealous probably because were not intimate but i believe in freedom till you take an oath to be loyal and commit. IP: Logged |
Diablo Knowflake Posts: 888 From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 03, 2010 04:14 AM
Agreed with Belgz, could not have said it better myself. Must be a water/air with a bit of fire thing. I've been single for 3 yrs now but in the meantime I've been seeing people, sometimes a few of them are after my attention at the same time. I'm loyal once I commit to someone who takes over me, mind body and soul. Until then, I belong to me only and I'm loyal to myself. When it comes to friends (not acquaintances), then I'm loyal all the way, 100% no matter what cos I spent a lot of time cultivating that friendship to make it strong and will do everything I can to protect it. My clan/inner circle is very very important to me. IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 768 From: astral plane Registered: Dec 2009
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posted May 04, 2010 12:27 AM
i think my strong venus, pluto plus saturn aspects make me very loyal, ima libra with a taurus rising so im pretty protective of my family, friends, loved ones...aries friends for the most part are loyal taurus.. very much so. very loyal unless they got strong gemini, then i can see the tendency tonot be so much gemini i wouldnt ever date one again because he cheated on me.. but as for the girls id say once your good friends their pretty much your friend for good cancer friends are loyal cause theyll always be your friend ive had some cancer friends since i was 4 and we still talk and another since i was in jr high.. even if we had our ups and downs leos.. never really had a good leo friend i wouldnt know virgo- in a relationship NO. as friends.. it really depends but for the most part.. uhmmm not really. libra- considering its my own side id say yes just becuase i am and the ones ive met on my birthday. one i met with an aqua moon wasnt. at all. she was a snake. scorpio very much so when your really really good friends but either way they can be pretty scheming and lie.. sag the ones ive had were good friends. i like sag cap very loyal friends til the end aqua.. it really depends with this one. they have a really 2-faced quality.. soo they have to be your really good friend. i went out with one for 3 years and he was dead loyal.. but as a friend im not sure heee would talk s hit about people but would act like they were their best friend. sort of sad pisces i think this depends too. can be buut.. some arent so much. IP: Logged |
MariMari Newflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted May 04, 2010 12:54 AM
Mars in Scorpio give intense loyalty towards loved onesIP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 2560 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 04, 2010 08:53 AM
My first love;Scorpio-Sun/Taurus-Moon (merc/venus in scorp) Although it's 16/17 years ago that we had a relationship, he's proved to be the most loyal person I met, in a sense that his love for me and my family is/was REAL. I never again met this unconditional love; my mom is still his mom while he's married to someone else for 10 years now. We had the most heavy relationship I ever got (cheat on each other, hit each other etc.) *** Cancer-Sun/Leo-Moon (merc/venus in cancer) Platonic, but he's always there for me for many years now. *** Can I talk about my current SO/guy although it's only going on for almost 4 months now? Yes I can, because it's the first one since 16/17 years that reminds me of my first love. The first time after all those years that I dare to care, to commit myself again in a way I did so many years ago. It must be like this; if you're truly ready to commit than you won't accept less than that and you will meet the loyalty you need. He's a Pisces-Sun/Taurus-Moon. (merc/venus in aqua) (oopz a pisces??) You see; - they all have their Sun in a water-sign. - they all have a FIXED Moon My own Sun and Moon are also fixed. The most bad experience regarding 'loyalty' I had, was with an Aqua (he even had Moon/Mars/Merc in Aqua
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 04, 2010 09:11 AM
TOTALLY agree with you Lindaland.Fixed signs i have found to be the most loyal. My love is taurus/scorpio/leo and he's as steadfast and loyal as it's possible to be. I find Aquarians to be loyal too. They are definitely not fickle. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 9380 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 04, 2010 09:49 AM
I wouldn't say that Fixed signs are the most loyal. My whole family is loyal, although one member has complained that he husband (a Taurus), hardly ever stands by her in argument. One Aquarian and one Leo, married to each other for years, have cheated on each other at least once (for long periods of time). The fire signs in my family, have been the most loyal and protective, along with my Cappy sister, and my dad, who threw someone out of the house when he caused an uproar (Dad's a Taurus). Then there's my best friend, a Cancer with moon in Capricorn, Venus in Leo, and Mars/Jupiter in Aries. IP: Logged |
Diablo Knowflake Posts: 888 From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 04, 2010 01:18 PM
My dad is an Aquarius sun with a Pisces moon so according to astrology he should be the biggest, womanizing cheating manwh*re on the planet. Not so. He married my mum (she's Pisces sun) in his early 20s and has been faithfully married to her for 28yrs now. He's only ever had eyes for my mother. I've never heard him even comment on another woman on TV or have any favourite fantasy celebs. Throughout my whole life, he's been home every single night and I've never had to question where dad is. My mum has had friend's that have been jealous of their marriage and have gossiped and b*tched about her and my dad cos their husband are nowhere near as perfect as my dad with their integrity, morals and ethics. Strange too, cos his dad (my grandfather) was a Libra sun who was notorious for having many affairs behind my grandma's back, right up into his elderly years. You'd think my dad would be exactly like his father. Having said that, my dad's brother (uncle) is an Aquarius sun also who's bday is a few days before my dad's and he's the complete opposite and cheats on his partners. Depends on the Aquarian, I think. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 9380 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 04, 2010 01:37 PM
My Aquarian, male cousins, are both committed to their wives. The older one used to have a different girlfriend every week, and was never good enough in his father's eyes, because he would get himself into trouble financially. Once he married, that was it: he has stayed faithful (as far as I know), and became the financially stable one (his wife got herself into some trouble). I've always liked him, and he's really impressed me.  The second is newly married to his long-term girlfriend, and they have a new baby girl.  I wasn't putting down Aquarians, or fixed signs - just pointing out that those I first thought of, were not so loyal or faithful. I, my mother, and my sister, are right there in each other's corners. I can be angry or hurt by someone, and still come out fighting for them, should they need me. IP: Logged |
Diablo Knowflake Posts: 888 From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 04, 2010 01:49 PM
I think with Aquarians they can go one way or the other, it really does depend. I've heard both extremes about them.My dad and uncle are a good example of this, their bday's a wk apart and totally different. It probably depends on their other placements and aspects  Eg. My dad may be an Aquarian sun/Pisces moon, but he has his Mercury & Venus in Capricorn and his Mars in Taurus, all that earth gives a lot of stability, grounding and strong foundations IP: Logged |
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 737 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 04, 2010 10:07 PM
quote: Loyalty is a fixed sign quality, I'm kind of surprised so many knowflakes have had issues with Aquarians.
I don't know... I think loyalty is also based your own astrological makeup. IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 768 From: astral plane Registered: Dec 2009
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posted May 05, 2010 12:14 PM
thats interesting about aquarius. i went out with an aquarius with a pisces moon as well for 3 years and he was very loyal. i know a few other aquraius's with pisce moons and they too seem to be pretty loyal for the most part. but i have heard and met some pretty nasty aquarians. who were abusive and cheated a lot.. but ive seen that with all the air signs. gemini with libra moon.. very horrible temper and cheater, then a libra with aqua moon who was a cheater but her merc was in scorpio so she would just talk c rap to people over the internet saying how she would beat them up then when it came down to it in person her libra would hide away. so dumb. she makes my libraness look bad. but atleast i got my mars conjunct sun and venus conjunct pluto to even me out.. IP: Logged |
Diablo Knowflake Posts: 888 From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 05, 2010 12:17 PM
Funnily enough, my soul mate is an Aquarian sun with Mars and Venus in Pisces AND he has the same name as my dad.As for as loyalty goes, we've never been together as a couple but we've always been loyal to one another. Our loyalty to each other is unconditional and it doesn't matter how long we go without talking or the kind of argument we have, we're always gonna be talking at some point or something is gonna happen to make us turn to each other. But he can be a nasty Aquarian too. I've had to endure that but I can be a nasty Cancer IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 8743 From: Dublin, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 05, 2010 12:42 PM
quote: Mars in Scorpio give intense loyalty towards loved ones
Yup  IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 1078 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 05, 2010 01:05 PM
Sun- Libra Moon- Scorpio Venus- Libra Mars- LibraThe biggest cheater I have ever met and had no problem lying about it. When I caught him he tried to manipulate me into believing I was the one in fault. He was only friends with me when he needed something from me. Sun- Leo Moon- Cappy Venus- Leo Mars- Aquarius One of the loyalist people I have ever met... as a friend and as more. I haven't talked to him in about a yr but if I called him up right now and needed something he would be right there. Sun- Pisces Moon- Taurus Venus- Aries Mars- Aquarius I don't know what to think about this one. He was extremely loyal and protective of me when I was a teenager, 12 yrs ago, (not romantic)... about 3 months ago it turned more and he freaked out and won't communicate after being in touch with each other for 12 yrs... I'm a Sun- Sag Moon- Taurus Venus- Scorpio Mars- Sag I'm wishy washy until I have made my mind- BUT when I make up my mind- I'm extremely loyal. IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2196 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 05, 2010 01:09 PM
I am loyal.I agree with lalalinda. I am very loyal, but if you messed with me before, and I was just biding time until I leave, get my revenge or whatever... then it might seem I am not loyal. But, I am known for my loyalty. I have pretty fixed feelings. I have Scorpio AC, conjunct Jupiter and Mars in Scorpio, Ceres in Scorpio and Eros in Scorpio. I also have Cancer Moon, which makes me protective towards those I love. Basically, if I've got your back, I've got your back, and nothing will change that. Unless, you betray me. ------------------ Blog IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 9380 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 05, 2010 01:28 PM
I forgot to add my own placements, in my post above.I have a Scorpio ascendant, and Pluto trines my Moon/Venus conjunction. Sun in Aries, Moon/Venus in Gemini, Mars in Pisces. My Mother is a Sagittarius, with Mars conjunct Pluto in Leo. She will help someone, even if they've betrayed her - her defenses come down far enough to help them, but she never forgets an offense. She also has Venus in Scorpio. Moon, Neptune, Jupiter and Chiron are all conjunct in Libra. Dad is a Taurus Sun/Moon, sag ascendant, and my sister is a Capricorn with a Pisces Moon and Ascendant... her Venus is in Aquarius, opposing Saturn in Leo, Mars in sadge (squaring her ascendant). I need to check Dad's chart again - I can only remember his Jupiter in Scorpio. Mars conjunct Mercury in Aries. Another Taurus I know reminds me of Unmoved - what she wrote above - I've mentioned him elsewhere. He has a Taurus Sun/Moon, Leo ascendant, Venus in Pisces, and Mars/Saturn in Cancer (square Pluto). IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 1078 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 05, 2010 01:40 PM
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WinkAway Knowflake Posts: 1577 From: here, there & everywhere Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 05, 2010 05:39 PM
I have a lot to learn about astrology.. but having said that..My experience with Saggy men are the worst! They are very charming, great lovers, but don't fall too hard for them because they leave your heart in pieces. And don't cross them because you will never be forgiven! My first ex was a Taurus. He had a temper on him. But aside of that he was very loyal. My second ex was a Leo and I'm not sure if you'd call him loyal or not. He was and still is my best friend. But he did cheat on me at least once that I know of. My Cappy ex boyfriend was as loyal as they come. If I could find me a single Cappy without mental issues, I'd hit the gold mine :-D But it's the Saggy's that seem to give me the most grief. Is the fact that I keep running into single men and they all seem to be Saggy's a sign? They don't seem to want to hold a relationship, hence, their all single!! lol.
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enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 737 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 05, 2010 08:03 PM
Scorpios and Capricorns have been the most loyal to me personally. Geminis the most disloyal. I myself am a loyal person to anyone who treats me nicely, however I have no problem walking away from a person who is treating me like crap. Some people think this is disloyalty, but why would I want to be around someone who has repeatedly treated me like crap for the sake of loyalty? That's just stupid. IP: Logged |
Musette Knowflake Posts: 368 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 05, 2010 08:20 PM
quote: Loyalty is a fixed sign quality, I'm kind of surprised so many knowflakes have had issues with Aquarians.
The two most disloyal people I've ever encountered were a Taurus Sun/Libra Moon/Taurus Asc and an Aquarius Sun/Gemini Moon/Leo Asc. They were a pair of backstabbers who backstabbed all their friends, boyfriends, family members and husbands until they were each the only person the other had left in their life! I've never thought of loyalty as a fixed sign quality, or related to a particular sign at all. I think it depends on not only the overall chart but also on the individual's free will. IP: Logged |