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fiona
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posted April 20, 2010 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiona     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please share your experiences?

My Leo ALWAYS takes my side and defends me, even when I'm wrong. He protects me no matter what. He has a virgo moon, which is supposed to be critical, but as far as his loved ones are concerned, he is pretty "blind" to their faults.

My Cancer ex (with Libra moon) was faithful in that he was always there for me when i needed him. On the other hand, he was less likely than my Leo to take "sides".

My other ex, who was a Pisces, was loyal to me (he declared his undying love for me and 100% devotion)... until things weren't so rosy anymore. Then, he stopped calling me without any explanation, hoping I would just disappear from his life. The more I hung on to him, the more slipped away.

What are your experiences with loyalty in each sign?

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GypseeWind
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posted April 20, 2010 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like these kind of questions...

Aries ~ friends untill the end, would go down in a sinking ship with you. The women. No comment on the men in the romance department, but they make great friends.

Cancer ~ I have had them in and out of my life. Nothing really major happens, it just seems we outgrow one another and move on.

Leo ~ See Aries. No experience with dating though.

Virgo ~ Every Virgo friend and/or lover I've ever had, I still have as a friend. I think they are very loyal people.

Libra ~ Other than my LL friends, the only Libra friend I have (other than acquaintances) I met in high school, and still talk to her every day. She is pretty darn loyal.

Scorpio ~ Loyal to the death. Will defend you to the death. TRUE.. but, this only if you have developed a very deep bond with them, which can sometimes take years.

Sagittarius ~ OK, see other fire signs. LOL.

Capricorn ~ hmm, I'de have to go with loyal there too. I've seen my cap girlfriend go bonkers when someone has said something disrespectful to me before.

Aquarius ~ Unfortunately, in my life, IN PERSON, the Aquas I've known have stabbed me in the back. I've forgiven them, only to have it done again.
Not the guys though, but, I haven't dated one, so this is strictly a friendship thing.

Pisces ~ Can go either way.

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angel100
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posted April 20, 2010 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With boyfriends of mine I am 100% loyal with a passion all the time. Defend till the death! that's what I say.

Asc virgo
sun libra
moon capricorn

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la_sexorcisto
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posted April 20, 2010 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for la_sexorcisto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries with Scorpio Moon:
i think he cheated on me but he did try to get me back after he broke up with me, though it never happened. i don't know if he'd take my side on things because we didn't speak the same language (literally, he was a Mexican immigrant)

Aries with Capricorn Moon:
he seemed devoted to me, and i think he would have taken my side if we had ever been in the situation where i was defending myself.

Pisces with Taurus Moon:
fiona's description of her Pisces is exactly like mine. 'nuff said.

Libra with Sagittarius Moon (current bf):
he says he is totally devoted and faithful to me and i feel and know he is sincere (at least right now). he would defend me if he knew i was right but if i were wrong, i'm not so sure he'd defend me. i think it would highly depend on the situation and people involved.

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Astra
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posted April 20, 2010 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries: as friends they are loyal. As lovers, they seem prone to cheating.

Taurus: so utterly sweet and loyal. Love them!

Gemini: loyal if they consider you a close friend. Otherwise, they won't defend you, though they won't backstab you either unless you anger them

Cancer: Sun in cancer is stable and appears loyal. I have a hard time reading them. Moon in cancer--> get backstabbed by them a lot; lacks honesty in my experience.

Leo: so lovable and fiercely loyal! They make awesome, entertaining friends. You can always count on them

Virgo: They're ok.

Libra: I know a few libras and they are loyal, though sometimes it may not seem that way since they tend to straddle the fence on issues

Scorpio: VERY loyal...at least the scorpio suns are.

Sagittarius: no comment

Capricorn: loyal, though they give out tough love

Aquarius: they're ok

Pisces: very sweet. Loyalty varies

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 20, 2010 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, are we going by sun sign generalities again?

It's a mixed bag, I'd say.
For every sun sign I know which has shown unbelievable loyalty, there's been one of the same sun which has shown amazing backstabbing skills as well as a lack of loyalty

Makes sense though.

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AcousticGod
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posted April 20, 2010 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries - I find them to be fairly loyal. Judged over a long enough period of time they will come out seeming loyal I think, though with the possible indiscretion here and there.

Taurus - Loyal is practically their middle name. Once you're in with one, you're always in.

Gemini - More loyal than Sun sign astrology might make them seem.

Cancer - I think Cancers may sometimes be too manipulative for their own good. They want to be loyal, but when they're hurt they'll act disloyal to hurt you back.

Leo - I would say that they're pretty loyal.

Virgo - Loyal, but wrapped in a package that makes you wonder sometimes. Those critical moments hit, and you're left not knowing whether they're really being critical, or if it was just a passing thing.

Libra - I think they probably are, but I don't have a lot to comment about with them.

Scorpio - I find them disappointingly disloyal at times. You can be going along having a nice relationship, then in the blink of an eye they're offended at you, and it's all your fault, and you're left wondering, "Where's their loyalty to me and to our friendship? How did things change so suddenly? Wtf?". I've been dumbfounded by this on multiple occasions.

Sagittarius - Loyal, but distant. They don't mean to leave you, it's just something they've gotta do, and anytime you talk with them in the future you'll be right back where you left off.

Capricorn - Loyal, but I can't comment without considering myself, and I don't think I'm the most stereotypical version. I can't say I'd defend a loved one's position if I didn't agree with it. At most I'd serve them with my silence, and let them believe what they want.

Aqua - I think loyal, but I've heard female Aquas talk about how they pick fights with their loved ones not even necessarily having a point at the onset, but reaching one eventually. Not sure what that's about.

Pisces - Not sure. Not enough observation.

Personally, I enjoy people's loyalty a lot. There may be nothing more irksome than someone with an inability to be consistent. I don't demand the kind of loyalty that fights my battles. I can cover that. I just like people to fulfill the roles I've come to expect them to fill.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted April 20, 2010 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it depends on what each person's definition of loyalty is. And plus, we aren't just going by sun signs are we?

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posted April 20, 2010 08:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only loyal person in my life, is myself..I try not to depend or exspect much from anyone because friends and settings change..even sadly family but I am the only constant in my life and the one keeping myself together.

Not to say there are not any people in my life I can somewhat count on lol like some of my family and my closest friends but I usually don't count on them..until the shat as really hits the fan.X_X.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 20, 2010 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like they are, Benedict lol

Over-generalizations are funnnnn!

BTW - all those 'typically' loyal signs have displayed the most appalling levels of disloyalty: Leo, Taurus, Scorpio, Cancer, Capricorn, Aries...oh, and Libra. But they're fickle anyway (ALL OF THEM!!!), so I guess it's no surprise

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Lara
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posted April 20, 2010 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taureans are probably the most loyal sign i have found.

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Deliverance
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posted April 20, 2010 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Taureans are probably the most loyal sign i have found.

No, we are the most loyal...we back up our b*tches....with ****boxes

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 20, 2010 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deliverance

I know you were just waiting for an opportunity to say that

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Deliverance
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posted April 20, 2010 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bows*

Yep, I've been biding my time, waiting for an opportuinity to say it. I've got it out of my system now!

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Astra
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posted April 20, 2010 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Oh, are we going by sun sign generalities again?
It's a mixed bag, I'd say.
For every sun sign I know which has shown unbelievable loyalty, there's been one of the same sun which has shown amazing backstabbing skills as well as a lack of loyalty

Makes sense though.


You're certainly welcome to post moon, venus, etc signs if you like. I was just too lazy and stuck with sun signs. All we can really make are generalizations about signs, placements and aspects. I agree, there are loyal and disloyal people in every sign. In my post, I was only speaking about my own experience regarding sun signs, which may or may not be close to the majority of people's experiences.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 20, 2010 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astra, and I am a huge fan of simplifying the complex, but when the simple (Sun) becomes even more simplified in these cases, I feel like I can't relate at all.

For me, it's been mostly Aqua and Leo as longest time friends. Are they the most loyal to me? I don't know, they're just the most present in my life, closely followed by Sagittarians.
I was raised by Aquas and have always been surrounded by them and my Jupiter is in the same sign.
Leos as well have figured prominently and have by turns been either very loyal or very disloyal. I've seen both ends of the spectrum with them.

Sagittarians have been friends of the more far away variety. We almost always get along, but we're hardly ever in the same place

So no, I do not think I can generalize even in that department because all their moons have been different too.

As for what defines loyalty, I would say it's someone who is not a fair weather friend. And those are hard to find no matter what sign, period.
If you've had better luck than I have and are able to even categorize it, then more power to you

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posted April 21, 2010 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now wait a minute. Loyalty doesn't look the same to everybody. For me, you can disagree with my stance on something, as long as you always believe in me and my good intentions. But if I'm wrong, for god sakes tell me so. I'll probably come around if it makes sense...eventually.
Don't throw me under a bus to advance yourself
Don't disregard our bond for the sake of a good time
Don't tell my secrets for fun or advancement in social status.

Who has done this to me?
Gemini, Gemini, Gemini (I have a Gemini sister who I would like to strangle sometimes)

Cancer (with Gemini rising)

Scorpio (once I shunned his sexual advances)

Aquarius, long sad story

I have never been betrayed by a Virgo but I know people who have been.

Taurus is loyal and true to their word, but that doesn't mean they won't dissappoint you. They just tend to warn you before they do.

Aries is honest as the day is long, but like Taurus, they tend to warn you before they disappoint you.

Leo, hard to say, as I don't have many Leo freinds, but they are faithfull,and kind, but also somewhat self serving. But you tend to forgive them easily. It's hard to wish ill will on these folks. Maybe I'm biased?

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posted April 21, 2010 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me:
Sun - Aries
Moon - Capricorn
AC - either Gemini or Cancer
Mercury - Pisces
Venus- either Aries or Taurus
Mars - Capricorn
Jupiter - Pisces
Saturn - Sagittarius

(born: 02-04-86)


Person who betrayed my trust often. She said things behind my back that I would have prefered to remain secret and often made up other things that were just untrue:

Sun - Leo
Moon - Cancer
AC - Unknown
Mercury - Virgo
Venus - Leo
Mars - Scorpio
Jupiter - Capricorn
Saturn - Scorpio

(born 26-07-84)


Person who I would trust with absolutely anything. He is just amazing and extremely loyal.

Sun - Leo
Moon - Gemini
AC - Scorpio
Mercury - Cancer
Venus - Virgo
Mars - Scorpio
Jupiter - Leo
Saturn - Aries

(born: 02-08-67)

It's interesting that they have similarities in their personal planets. One of them I cut off from my life because I would not trust her as far as I could throw her. The other is the most trustworthy person I've known.

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posted April 21, 2010 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lionseye - I feel the same way about disloyalty. It is not about a disagreement in opinion. It is about a breach of trust or causing intentional harm.

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posted April 21, 2010 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiona     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Feel free to post sun, moon, venus, or whatever you think contributes to loyalty or disloyalty in a person from your own experience. Of course, experience varies from person to person, so it's good to gather some feedback from others.

When i say take "sides", i don't mean disagreement in opinion. I mean when someone is attacking or hurting your loved ones (verbal insults or what have you), would you jump in to help him/her or would you do nothing?

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mermaid26
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posted April 21, 2010 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think my Taurus Moon strengthens my loyalty capabilities. I may not keep up with friends very well, but I always resume relationships just like old times. As long as someone's genuinely seeking realty and truth like me I immediately feel the bond.

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posted April 21, 2010 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Now wait a minute. Loyalty doesn't look the same to everybody. For me, you can disagree with my stance on something, as long as you always believe in me and my good intentions. But if I'm wrong, for god sakes tell me so. I'll probably come around if it makes sense...eventually.
Don't throw me under a bus to advance yourself
Don't disregard our bond for the sake of a good time
Don't tell my secrets for fun or advancement in social status.

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Lara
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posted April 21, 2010 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have to say that taurus and aries are more loyal than cappy

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NeptuneIllusion
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posted May 03, 2010 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptuneIllusion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loyalty is different for everyone!!! I agree with all the people who have stated this already.

I've tried to think back on patterns of disloyalty based on sun sign, but I really can't. I have known people born under just about every sun sign that have cheated on their partners. It's more about the venus and mars sign, or perhaps not even that. More to do with the environment that they grew up in and the values they learned as a child.

My ex is a Gemini and she cheated on me quite regularly, but my ex before her was a Cappy and he cheated on me as well too. Taurus is known for being loyal, but I have met Taureans that are just as promiscuous as any Gemini sun person.

It really isn't all that cut and dry. Too bad it isn't- it would be easier to spot who is a good mate and who isn't, but it just doesn't work that way unfortunately. I'm sure there are planetary placements that make make a person more prone to lying, but it has been really hard for me to spot since i"ve met people born under every sign that exhibit just about every behavior.

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posted May 03, 2010 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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