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comica23
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posted April 27, 2010 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Added the filter option in the "Aspects to Midpoints" section in the Results. This can either show or hide the planets already present in a certain midpoint, or midpoints that contains any elements of this midpoint.

For example, for Sun/Moon midpoint, Sun or Moon or any midpoint involving Sun or Moon (like Sun/Mercury or Moon/Venus) would be either shown or hidden.

Personally, I prefer to filter the same elements, although it might be useful to see what else is there around the same point.


Sorry for updating it again lol but I won't do any major updates for now. X3

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posted April 28, 2010 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry Option Available~!

This application can compare aspects to/between midpoints between 2 charts now!

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posted April 28, 2010 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
another time I am wishing I did not have slooooooooooow dial-up.

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posted April 28, 2010 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love midpoints. Almost every single one of my bf's midpoints aspect my planets or angle. But sadly barely any of my midpoints aspect anything in his chart. Can't wait to use your app, thanks!

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posted April 30, 2010 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all, I've just updated and fixed 2 minor bugs. Sorry for having had so many updates lol. ^_^;

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posted April 30, 2010 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So cool! I finally got around to download it and try it out. Really really cool!

I just had to have a look at the composite midpoints:

composite midpoints:

Chiron/ASC squares Neptune
Mercury / Jupiter squares Neptune
Venus / MC conjunct Neptune

Jupiter/ Chiron squares Saturn
Mercury / Chirono pposes Saturn
Mercury / Mars squares Saturn
Neptune / Chiron opposes Saturn
Sun / Pluto square SAturn

Mars / ASC opposes Jupiter
Moon/Chiron squares Jupiter

Mars/Jupiter squares MC
Pluto / Mercury conjunct MC
Pluto / NEptune conjunct MC

Pluto / Chiron squares Mars
Sun / SAturn conjunct Mars
Venus / ASC Square Mars

Pluto / Chiron opposes Moon
Sun / SAturn square Moon
Venus / ASC conjunct Moon

Pluto / Jupiter square Uranus
Saturn / ASC conjunct Uranus

Pluto / MC squares ASC
Uranus / Pluto square ASC

Pluto / MC opposes Chiron
Uranus / Pluto opposes Chiron

SAturn / Chiron opposes Sun
Venus / Jupiter square Sun

SAturn / Jupiter squares pLuto
Sun / ASC squares Pluto

Saturn / Jupiter opposes Venus

Saturn / Pluto square Mercury
Sun / Jupiter square Mercury
Venus / MC conjunct Mercury


Doesn`t look like the most happy one, I know.

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posted April 30, 2010 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I downloaded it, but haven't had a chance to try it out yet. I'm watching two little girls in the afternoon today for a mama.

It looks great though, from the screen shots!

Kudos to you!

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posted April 30, 2010 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD, I'm glad that you liked it! Before, I've calculated all the midpoint aspects from my composite chart within 2 degrees, and it was kind of a pain lol. Even so, I still missed some aspects. XP

But well, personally, I wouldn't use the midpoints involving AC, MC or NN, at least not at first. Coz they are "instances/parts" that represents what the AC, MC or NN (or the other involved element) basically represents (just adding some further details about them), and so it's better to keep a clearer picture at first.

By the way, you can interpret an aspect to a certain midpoint as how the theme represented by the midpoint would be in the relationship. For example, Sun/Venus mp conjunct Moon and square to Saturn/Pluto mp - it can show that the general love and affections (Sun/Venus mp) in the relationship is emotional (Moon), yet there might be some times that this affection is taken place by coldness and control (Saturn/Pluto mp).

Also, it's important to check for patterns, as elements can be linked each other that the final result is kind of like the sum of all.


*edited*By the way, don't worry if there seem to be some scary aspects in the list lol. Actually, there are no perfect relationships, so that it's normal to find some scary ones in the middle (my composite has a few harsh ones too that scared me lol).

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posted April 30, 2010 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Comica,

yes, doing it manually I missed important ones, too. Besides you can`t cheat a computer. For him 2 degrees is 2 degrees and not 2degrees and 55 minutes because the Sun/Moon conjunct Venus is just SOOO beautiful. lol


"But well, personally, I wouldn't use the midpoints involving AC, MC or NN, at least not at first. "
Hmm, I think I disagree. ASC and MC are the most personal points in any chart, so it doesn´t seem to make sense to me to ignore them. Even though I agree, it may be a bit difficult to interprete them. I have to think of something.

"Coz they are "instances/parts" that represents what the AC, MC or NN (or the other involved element) basically represents (just adding some further details about them)"
You mean that in a Venus/ASC midpoint the ASC-part is just emphasizing the significance of Venus?
Well, if that is true, I think it is important in itself, if we have an emphasis on a planet!
But I am sure the angles have their "own" meaning and interpretation, too. I am jsut not completely certain about how to interprete them.

"For example, Sun/Venus mp conjunct Moon and square to Saturn/Pluto mp - it can show that the general love and affections (Sun/Venus mp) in the relationship is emotional (Moon), yet there might be some times that this affection is taken place by coldness and control (Saturn/Pluto mp)."
Strange. I would have approached it from the opposite side.
I would think the planet (which triggers midpoints) is in the centre of the action / attention and is further described by the midpoints.

In this example: the Sun/Venus and Saturn/Pluto midpoints would explain how the emotions (Moon) are being expressed.

But in the end there are three planets intertwined and probably that is what counts the most.


"*edited*By the way, don't worry if there seem to be some scary aspects in the list lol. "#
No, I do not really worry.
Actually I prefer having some harsh aspects. Maybe I am just a masochist, but I feel (just my personal perception) that a composite with only Venus, Sun, Jupiter and Mars midpoints may lack a little bit of growthpotential and even depth.
It would all just be too happy-lucky, if you know what I mean.

But keep in mind my Venus is in Cap squaring Pluto. And my tightest midpoints are:
Moon=Sun/Pluto=Mercury/Pluto

I guess it is not so surprising from that that I seek some of the more "harsher" energies.
Oh and I read that Carol Willis loves the Saturn/Pluto-mp btw.


EDIT:
BTW I just noticed that in that special composite / synastry:

C-Sun is conjunct his Sun/Moon-mp
and
C-Moon is conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp (both within 1 degree).

That is odd, isn´t it?

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raspberri
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posted April 30, 2010 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't save the profiles to do the syanstry part!!!

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posted May 01, 2010 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm delighted with the improvements!! Easy to use and quite practical.

If you're looking to add more to the application I would consider adding Arabic parts calculations. Just a thought

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posted May 01, 2010 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah I could not refrain from having a look at another composite (if it is getting too crowded with my composite aspects here, just tell me so. ) WEll, I am leaving out the angle/Planets mixed for now.

Mars/Jupiter square MC

Mars/Jupiter square Pluto

Moon/Jupiter square Chiron
Uranus/Pluto opposite Chiron

Moon/Mercury conjunct Venus

Neptune / Chiron conjunct Jupiter
Pluto / Mercury square Jupiter
Pluto / Moon square Jupiter
Uranus / Mars square Jupiter
Venus/Pluto square Jupiter

Uranus/Jupiter conjunct Moon
Venus/Mercury conjunct Moon

Venus/Moon conjunct Mercury


Those midpoints to Jupiter seem interesting, especially since the composite has a Sag ASC.

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posted May 01, 2010 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would LOVE to try it but this is what I get:

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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comica23
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posted May 01, 2010 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
raspberri, how are you saving a profile? In the save window, just type a name for the chart data, like "composite1" or "mary", and it will save it to the folder where the application is (the save file has .save as extension). To load it, just type the same name (without the extension, like "composite1" or "mary") in the load window.

evander, this application is only focused on midpoints, but you can put an arabic part in one of the two extra fields. X3

Got Gemini, yeah Megaupload has this sometimes, just try to refresh the page or try again later, and it will be fine.

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DD
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posted May 01, 2010 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I have that, too, GG, and then I returned and it was okay.

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posted May 01, 2010 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
yes, doing it manually I missed important ones, too. Besides you can`t cheat a computer. For him 2 degrees is 2 degrees and not 2degrees and 55 minutes because the Sun/Moon conjunct Venus is just SOOO beautiful. lol

loool yeah I know what you mean. Sometimes, I hate it when it's only like 5 seconds extra!

quote:
"But well, personally, I wouldn't use the midpoints involving AC, MC or NN, at least not at first. "
Hmm, I think I disagree. ASC and MC are the most personal points in any chart, so it doesn´t seem to make sense to me to ignore them. Even though I agree, it may be a bit difficult to interprete them. I have to think of something.

No no, of course AC, MC and NN are important! What I wanted to say is while <planet>/<planet> midpoints can show how the themes/dynamics in the relationship are, <angle>/<planet> midpoints might be more about further details of what <planet>/<planet> midpoints show (for example, AC/<planet> is more focused on the <planet>'s own dynamics in terms of the relationship's identity itself, or the identity of the relationship itself in terms of the <planet> ).
So that they are still relevant, yet I would prefer to leave them for later, coz otherwise there would be too much on the plate and it's preferable to get a clearer overall picture of the relationship first, before analyzing things further.
quote:
"Coz they are "instances/parts" that represents what the AC, MC or NN (or the other involved element) basically represents (just adding some further details about them)"
You mean that in a Venus/ASC midpoint the ASC-part is just emphasizing the significance of Venus?
Well, if that is true, I think it is important in itself, if we have an emphasis on a planet!
But I am sure the angles have their "own" meaning and interpretation, too. I am jsut not completely certain about how to interprete them.

Venus/AC is about Venus/identity of the relationship, so that it could be further about how the affections/love in the relationship manifests on the identity level, or how the identity of the relationship manifests on the affections/love level.
quote:
"For example, Sun/Venus mp conjunct Moon and square to Saturn/Pluto mp - it can show that the general love and affections (Sun/Venus mp) in the relationship is emotional (Moon), yet there might be some times that this affection is taken place by coldness and control (Saturn/Pluto mp)."
Strange. I would have approached it from the opposite side.
I would think the planet (which triggers midpoints) is in the centre of the action / attention and is further described by the midpoints.

In this example: the Sun/Venus and Saturn/Pluto midpoints would explain how the emotions (Moon) are being expressed.

But in the end there are three planets intertwined and probably that is what counts the most.



Basically yeah, in a planet/midpoint aspect, they are basically affecting each other, so that it's true that all the elements of this aspect are intertwined/together in the end, without any of them being of more relevance. So what I've said can also be said as: "it can show that the general emotions (Moon) in this relationship are affectionate/loving (Sun/Venus mp), yet there might be some times that the emotions are affected by coldness and control (Saturn/Pluto mp)".

But by the way, it's important to understand that conjunctions, squares and oppositions are different - conjunctions are about merging the elements together, squares are about conflicts between what's squaring each other, and oppositions are about balance between what's opposing each other.

quote:
Actually I prefer having some harsh aspects. Maybe I am just a masochist, but I feel (just my personal perception) that a composite with only Venus, Sun, Jupiter and Mars midpoints may lack a little bit of growthpotential and even depth.
It would all just be too happy-lucky, if you know what I mean.

But keep in mind my Venus is in Cap squaring Pluto. And my tightest midpoints are:
Moon=Sun/Pluto=Mercury/Pluto

I guess it is not so surprising from that that I seek some of the more "harsher" energies.
Oh and I read that Carol Willis loves the Saturn/Pluto-mp btw.



Yeah, that's true. Sometimes, I wonder if we get into certain relationships that has certain challenges/lessons that we need in order to grow. But well, as long as the positive and the negative are balanced, and that we can work it together, then it's still good.
quote:
EDIT:
BTW I just noticed that in that special composite / synastry:

C-Sun is conjunct his Sun/Moon-mp
and
C-Moon is conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp (both within 1 degree).

That is odd, isn´t it?



That's amazing! I would think that this can show how the relationship can affect both person's chore deeply.
In my case, I've found cVenus squaring my Sun/Moon mp, while cMars opposes my bf's Sun/Moon mp (cVenus/cMars are conjunct) within a degree too.

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posted May 02, 2010 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"So that they are still relevant, yet I would prefer to leave them for later, coz otherwise there would be too much on the plate and it's preferable to get a clearer overall picture of the relationship first, before analyzing things further."
Okay, I get it now. And I very much agree.

" But by the way, it's important to understand that conjunctions, squares and oppositions are different"
Interesting. Your approach is very different then from all "midpointastrologers" I have ever read about. All I was reading is that the nature of the aspect itself does not make a qualitative difference, it is only important that there IS a strong connection.
Anyway I think nevertheless there may be a difference between conjunction/opposition on the one side and squares on the other side.
I do not differentiate conjunction and opposition here, because they are both relating to a direct midpoint, just one is farther from the other.

Example:

Venus on 4 Taurus; Pluto on 8 Virgo.
If you measure the short distance between them, you end up with 6 Cancer; if you measure the farther distance you end up with 6 Capricorn. But at the end of it, both points are direct midpoints between Venus and Pluto in this example.


Anyway I was even DREAMING about composites last night.
A car of a friend`s mom suddenly stopped beside me and told me that she knew how to see in a chart comparision whom of the two people were "more" in love. She was being a bit secretive about it, but in the end she was telling me, that the clue are the aspects from the composite to each person`s natal, including the midpoints.
I am just doing too much astrology I guess. lol


Anyway that gave me the idea to check the planets activating midpoints in both oru natals (from the first - chironic- composite):


COMPOSITE TO MY MP`S:
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c-Uranus square Mars/Chiron
c-Uranus opposes Jupiter/Saturn

c-Sun conjunct Jupiter/Pluto
c-Sun square Mars/Saturn
c-Sun conjunct Sun/Mercury

c-Moon conjunct Sun/Moon
c-Moon conjunct Mars/Jupiter
c-Moon conjunct Moon/Mercury
c-Mars square Sun/Moon
c-Mars square Mars/Jupiter

c-Saturn opposes MErcury/Chiron
c-Saturn opposes Sun/Chiron
c-Saturn square Uranus/Neptune
c-Saturn square Venus/Pluto

c-Neptune conjunct Mercury/Mars
c-Neptune conjunct Sun/Mars
c-Mercury square Moon/Chiron
c-Mercury conjunct Mercury/Neptune (conjunct)
c-Mercury conjunct Sun/Mars
c-Mercury conjunt Sun/Neptune

c-MC square Neptune/Chiron
c-MC conjunct Mercury/Pluto
c-MC conjunct Sun/Pluto

c-ASC square Moon/Saturn

c-Pluto square Moon/NEptune
c-Pluto square Pluto/Chiron
c-Venus opposite Pluto/Chiron

c-Jupiter square SAturn/Uranus

also:

c-Sun conjunct my Sun and Mercury
c-Moon conjunct my Antivertex
c-Venus opposes my Saturn
c-Jupiter conjunct my SN and DESC
c-Jupiter opposite my Neptune
c-SN conjunct my Chiron
c-NN conjunct my DNA Exactly. LOL And also my Sappho and Musa.
c-Lilith conjunct my Mars and ASC
c-ASC square my Uranus
c-MC square my Moon

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posted May 02, 2010 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
COMPOSITE TO HIS MP`S
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c-Jupiter squre Mars/Jupiter
c-Jupiter opposite Moon/Uranus
c-Jupiter opposite Sun/Uranus

c-Sun conjunct Moon/Neptune
c-Sun conjunct Sun/Moon
c-Sun conjunct VEnus/Uranus

c-Moon conjunct Mercury/Jupiter
c-Mars square Mercury / Jupiter
(Mercury and Jupiter are the rulers of his ASC and DESC!)
c-Mars conjunct Uranus/SAturn


c-Mercury conjunct Moon/MErcury
c-Mercury square Saturn/jupiter
c-Mercury square Saturn/Mars
c-Mercury conjunct Sun/Mercury
c-Mercury square Venus/Chiron
c-Neptune conjunct Neptune/Mercury

c-ASC square Neptune/Jupiter
C-ASC square Neptune / Mars
c-ASC opposes Pluto/Chiron
c-Chiron opposes Neptune/jupiter
c-Chiron opposes Neptune/Mars
c-Chiron square Pluto/chiron

c-MC conjunct Pluto/Mercury
c-MC square Uranus/Mercury
c-MC conjunct Venus/Jupiter

c-Saturn square Pluto/Neptune

c-Uranus ocnjunct Moon/SAturn
c-Uranus conjunct Sun/SAturn

c-Pluto conjunct Jupiter/Uranus
c-VEnus square Jupiter/Uranus
c-Venus square Mars/Uranus

also:
c-Sun conjunct his Sun, Moon and MC
c-Moon conjunct his Venus
c-Mercury conjunct his Neptune
c-Mars conjunct his Pluto
c-Jupiter opposite his Mercury
c-NN conjunct his Pluto
c-Lilith conjunct his Mercury
c-ASC conjunct his Venus



"That's amazing! I would think that this can show how the relationship can affect both person's chore deeply."
It (He) affected me actually more than I wanted to even admit to myself.


"n my case, I've found cVenus squaring my Sun/Moon mp, while cMars opposes my bf's Sun/Moon mp (cVenus/cMars are conjunct) within a degree too."
How would you interprete it?
And WOW to the Venus-Mars conjunction.

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posted May 03, 2010 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Anyway I was even DREAMING about composites last night.
A car of a friend`s mom suddenly stopped beside me and told me that she knew how to see in a chart comparision whom of the two people were "more" in love. She was being a bit secretive about it, but in the end she was telling me, that the clue are the aspects from the composite to each person`s natal, including the midpoints.
I am just doing too much astrology I guess. lol

DD, the knowledge in your subconscious was surfacing. X3 I've tried to check the aspects between my composite and myself/my bf before, and I feel that it can further tell us how the relationship is perceived or affects each of us.
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"n my case, I've found cVenus squaring my Sun/Moon mp, while cMars opposes my bf's Sun/Moon mp (cVenus/cMars are conjunct) within a degree too."
How would you interprete it?
And WOW to the Venus-Mars conjunction.

I feel that the physical/emotional attraction in this relationship affects both of us deeply. Maybe the feminine instance of this attraction affects me more, while the masculine instance of this attraction affects him more. cMars and cVenus are conjunct around 4º degrees, and cJuno is conjunct cVenus, which squares my Sun/Moon mp too. cJupiter is opposed to them, so it squares it too lol.
But well, cVenus/cJuno and cJupiter trines/sextiles my bf's Moon (it kind of completes a grand trine with his Sun and Moon, if wide degrees count), while they conjunct/oppose his draconic Mars, and cMars conjunct his draconic Venus. My draconic Mars is also trine cMars.

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posted May 03, 2010 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"DD, the knowledge in your subconscious was surfacing."
Yes, I guess, it wanted to tell me to not underestimate it.
I think that aspects from composite placements to natal planets can indicate how each person experiences the relationship or a certainpart of the relationship.

For example:
Composite Sun conjunct natal Venus
The relationship itself would trigger this person`s Venus, their capibility of love and attraction and such things. As a result they would probably "love" that relationship.


"Maybe the feminine instance of this attraction affects me more, while the masculine instance of this attraction affects him more."
I would think so, since c Venus is activating you and c Mars is activating him.
Do you feel especially comfortable with the feminine role and he with the masculine role in the relationship? Does it both give you a sense of contentment and completion?

" cMars and cVenus are conjunct around 4º degrees,"
Close enough I would think.
I have a Venus-Mars-conjunction in the Davison chart with someone; on top of that Venus and Mars are opposing Uranus and squaring Saturn. THAT is interesting (for me at least).

"cMars conjunct his draconic Venus."
A soulbound attraction for him?
Maybe this is another sign for completion.
The masculinity in the relationship (which is probably more something he is in tune with) somehow connecting to his inner woman (Dr Venus). Knowing both ends of the spectre, that sounds very nice to me.

My draconic Mars is also trine cMars.

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posted March 04, 2012 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have this program on their computer and could you please upload it to Rapidshare if you do. I really need it pretty badly. Thank you.

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posted March 05, 2012 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
composite charts are *already a midpoint chart*

Basic astrology forum, Learn Midpoints http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=

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