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electricmind
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posted April 23, 2010 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
i usually don't do this. and i generally sneer at those who constantly do (yea, i'm judgmental sometimes, working on it.)

so, this is synastry between myself and a friend who have had the strangest on/off relationship since august of 2007. i've posted both composite and synastry. any insight would be greatly appreciate.

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posted April 23, 2010 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
here are aspects as well
hope you can see it well enough to read.

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posted April 23, 2010 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Is there some sort of issue with sex? Never had it together, problems with it together, maybe you have it but not a relationship?

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posted April 23, 2010 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, I'm concerned about the lack of Moon aspects. Yours receives a square from his Neptune, which you already have, his is virtually unaspected. In composite, his n.Moon squares c.Sun, and that's it, otoh, c.Moon is conj your Sun.

I don't really want to read it further since the lack there, to me, signals already so much of a disconnect.

But if you have any specific questions, I'll look again.

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posted April 23, 2010 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
@Diana
lots of chemistry and passion. probably has kept us together longer than logic would permit. i find that neither one of us ever opens up completely. and when we get close to opening completely, its like pandora's box...scary.

@Lonake
its interesting. we do have an emotional connection, as connected as anyone as firey as him could possibly be. but his constantly has to reaffirm is individuality just when it seems like we are getting close. this has gone on for almost 3 years now. outsiders think we are fated to be together, wondering what's holding us back from being stable and commited. not sure what it is myself. we are the best of friends...idk

eta: we go from being inseparable to being at each other throats and then back again...

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posted April 23, 2010 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm is/was this relationship a romantic one?

In the composite, Jupiter is on Venus/Mars mp, showing a will for commitment and joy in the middle of physical/emotional attraction. Venus/Neptune and Mercury/Uranus mps on the IC.. hmm dreamy love plus mental connection (but Mercury is square to Uranus, so it could mean that the mental dynamics are strong, yet it could also show mental disagreements I guess)? Venus trine Pluto and sextile to Neptune could also indicate the dreamy and passionate side of attraction.
Saturn square to Moon can show some incompatibilities between the man and the woman in the relationship. But well, with Saturn/Jupiter mp conjunct Uranus, this relationship might not be stable for traditional commitment. Saturn and Jupiter has to do with stability and commitment, and their midpoint with Uranus can show that these elements can be unstable.


But well, I'm just a newbie at composite/midpoints interpretations lol so please let me know if I've got things wrong.

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posted April 23, 2010 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Btw, in the composite, Venus/Eros mp is square AC.. if this really counts as a mp, then I would think that this relationship is also erotic love.

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posted April 23, 2010 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
"his constantly has to reaffirm is individuality just when it seems like we are getting close"
he does have moon conj uranus, venus trine uranus, this could be his response to the situation as he's growing and learning still what it means to be separate person but a part of a relationship. i think it points more to a classic moon conj uranus, tbh, and it's in sagittarius.

"eta: we go from being inseparable to being at each other throats and then back again..."
well he has sun opp pluto which by itself is an aspect that on one hand would like to maintain control since they tend to have their fathers do a "pluto trip" on them while growing up, could be abandonment, abuse, could be something else. but they do tend to be very sensitive to power dynamics in relationship. he has merc conj the sun too opp that pluto, and it's in fixed signs, which are resistant by nature to change on one hand. your mercury comes in and makes a t-sq to his opp,
"and when we get close to opening completely, its like pandora's box...scary."
which could be a factor in you stating the above.
you being mercury, sq his sun, sun tends to not want to hear what mercury is saying at some level. do you feel this to be true?

interesting that his sun/merc opp pluto is on his mc/ic axis and lines up with your ic/mc. this is surely a strong connection, but with your merc squared, no, i wouldn't think it would be esp. easy.

edit, wow, his saturn is conj your mars squaring your sun, so he's saying let's stop and think, and sometimes and outright "no" on more than one level. his saturn is also quincunx venus so there's a lot of work to be done on his part, this mixed with the venus/moon/uranus, to get to that space where he feels comfortable being close and letting down that guard. his saturn squaring your sun, it's likely you may feel the brunt of this energy from him.

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posted April 23, 2010 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Comica's lying She's no newbie
I wish she'd comment more on synastries, tho!

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posted April 23, 2010 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
@Lonake
his loaded 4th house says it all. his parents were married when he was born but his mother left in the midst of a terrible drug problem with infidelity when he was two. his father definitely did the pluto ego trip on him (as a side note, his father is a leo as well as his grandfather and 3-4 of his aunts and uncles. so that fixed firey energy to heredity to say the least) he just "reunited" with his mother shortly after we started dating in 07...inspired by me having met my biological mother eariler that year.

he is definitely hesitant to change and will not do it at my immediate beckoning, only when we have time apart will his ego allow him to take on some of the changes and growth that i illuminate for him.
as far as the mercury square sun, definitely rings true. he loves me because i always know what to say and am very insightful. i see right through him. but that very same thing is what also cause most of our arguments. as a moon 3rd house, i have to talk. and he just wants me to shut up most of the time. (but so do most people, ha!)

we definitely have a strong connection. and we often sit and ponder how we are confused as to what role we are supposed to play in each others life...really we have wondered since day one.

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posted April 23, 2010 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
"he just "reunited" with his mother shortly after we started dating in 07...inspired by me having met my biological mother eariler that year."
wow, how apt considering pluto to both your mc/ic.

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posted April 23, 2010 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
Why do all important relationships have Vertex conjunct DSC?

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posted April 23, 2010 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
"Why do all important relationships have Vertex conjunct DSC?"
Well, no, of course *not all*, raspberri.

By the way, what's your interpretation of the conjunction, since Vx is like a secondary Dsc?

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posted April 23, 2010 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Lonake! X3 Actually, I've been into synastry/composite for a few years, although the only charts I've ever took an in-depth analysis are of the relationships I'm familiar with. But I've only started to look at other people's chart with more confidence lately, that I have to state it so that others wouldn't take everything I've said too seriously, since I'm not sure if I'm being accurate enough lol.

About synastry or composite, it's easier for me to read composites since they are like the resume of the possible dynamics, while synastries requires much more analysis (including each person's natal charts to determine how they might react to certain aspects). But well, I think that for synastries, you and others are much better at it. X3

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posted April 23, 2010 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
You are *so* showing your Virgo Asc right now

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posted April 23, 2010 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
@Comica23

its interesting how you mention stability and tradition and uranus.

i've started to wonder if i myself am cut out for a "traditional" relationship. of course together with this synastry, i don't know if that would happen. we are both artists on the move, travel touring etc.

on a personal note, i would love to have children and be in a marriage type of relationship. however, i don't see myself wanting to commit to any location or lifestyle longer than a year or 2. i've always imagined myself living more like a gypsy with my baby strapped on to me as i move along through life. i could see that type of lifestyle working with "g double u". he accepts me through all of my aquarian quirkiness and changes i go through. i'm into and onto something new every week and he loves it. so if he isn't the one i end up "marrying" then i wonder what that person looks like and where "g double u" fits into the picture long term. because at this point, i don't know what my life is without him being a part of it in some way shape or form.

i would also like to add, as background info, that we go through a SERIOUS breakup every 3-6 months or so. i mean serious where we won't talk for weeks. and then we get back together like nothing ever happened. its the strangest phenomenon. i tell myself that we really can't be together for a myriad of reasons but somehow we ALWAYS end up back in a romantic friendship.

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posted April 23, 2010 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I knew something was going on with 8th houses issues. I could tell by the comp 8th.


I still have no idea what your relationship is -- you haven't said. Is it friends with benefits or are you actually sometimes committed to each other? It's hard to do a reading w/o knowing if you both consider this a relationship or more of a friendship.

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posted April 23, 2010 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
sorry bout that diana.

it is a romantic relationship. sometimes committed and sometimes not.

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posted April 23, 2010 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
What do you mean, "sometimes committed sometimes not?" When you're not committed are you incommunicado or still seeing each other? This is very confusing. I wonder if this is why you two aren't actually defined and together....is this how you two communicate about the "relationship?" I hope this doesn't come off rude, because I don't mean it to, but I am so confused. It is like you are talking in circles. I bet you do that to each other, too. Everything is so vague. Just when I think I know what is going on with your relationship status, you backtrack and become elusive.

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posted April 23, 2010 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
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Just when I think I know what is going on with your relationship status, you backtrack and become elusive.

oh diana, you have just verbalized the crux of our relationship. and no i'm not offended.

from august 2007-september 2009 we were in a serious committed relationship. we had a huge breakup in september (actually right around the saturn/uranus opposition) since then we have been friends with benefits i guess. he constantly expresses how he knows that i am the one for him and that he wants to marry me and have children with me, despite our inability to get along on a very fundamental level right now.

so, to answer your question, as directly as possible, we are not together right now. however, it is vague as we aren't seeing other people and are still very much emotionally bonded and connecting in a romantic way.

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posted April 23, 2010 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Glad you're not offended.


I had a feeling that was what your communication as a couple was like, which explains A LOT! It fits your comp merc squ uranus.

It also fits your synastry merc sq sun too. Does he also find you are vague in emotional conversations? Or is it the other way around?


I think that maybe when neptune and chiron move off your comp venus you two will cement your relationship -- either way. This is proably the reason for all the vacillation since Sept.


You two REALLY need to work on your communication! That is the key.

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posted April 23, 2010 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
thanks diana. didn't even notice that neptune/chiron conjunct to comp venus. never paid attn to transits to composite. i shall investigate that further (pulls on imaginary beard...)

mercury (trine chiron, square midheaven) is actually ok in my own natal chart. i'm a generally good communicator, despite my occasional need to run over people speaking. i feel like "g double u" loves to dodge deep convo by talking about HOW we are talking to each other. and i'm like can we just focus on the issue at hand...sheesh!

i'll be happy for whatever way it cements because the back and forth is slowly driving me crazy.

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posted April 23, 2010 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
You're welcome.


Transits to composite are sometimes very telling. You just had a new moon conjunct your comp DC, so I wonder what happened then. You will have a full moon in your C. 1st next week, so let me know what happens, if anything.


So you are both affected by the merc sq sun.

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posted April 23, 2010 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
new moon on DC? i think we just started a new cycle of being "in love".

just the week or 2 before that, we were in a definite state of conflict. just moods not matching up. now we are all happy honky dory and he is sending me texts about how in love he is with me ( of course i reply in kind) ... oh the roller coaster...

i'll let you know about the full moon in scorpio in our comp first house. it also lands smack dab between my pluto and mars

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posted April 23, 2010 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
Hi electricmind,
I noticed your composite juno is inconjunct the neptune, this could describe that elusiveness around commitment. I noticed something interesting which is that Juno is exactly square Venus, so I would say there is certainly not a lack of love? BUT, Venus is also the AC ruler, which might again present tension in the issue of solidifying the relationship, despite that love. Juno does however biquintile the AC and sextile the MC. Both those aspects I think tend to take a little extra effort but are conducive to working out, so I feel like that reflects why you guys might keep getting back together? You guys also have a Venus/Saturn exact sextile so again, I think with a little effort this could be a long relationship (it already has been no?).

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