posted April 28, 2010 07:44 PM         

Angelina Jolie is also a Gem. She just oozes intensity to me. She's actually my girl crush, if I were to have such a thing

posted April 28, 2010 08:09 PM         

Eris in 13'54 Aries
conjunct Moon in 13'05 Aries
sextile Sun in 13'25 Gemini

Haumea in 12'19 Virgo
square Sun in 13'25 Gemini
square Neptune in 10'20 Sagittarius R
(T-Square)
quincunx Moon in 13'05 Aries

Makemake in 17'57 Leo
trine/sextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 17'52 Aries/Libra

Geocentric North Pluto Node in 19'08 Cancer
square Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 17'52 Aries/Libra

In Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude)

Pluto in 12'49 Libra
oppose Moon in 10'29 Aries
oppose Mars in 10'29 Aries
trine Sun in 12'49 Gemini
(Wedge)

Haumea in 21'52 Virgo
square Mercury in 21'44 Gemini

I'd look to see if any intense Arians are strong in transneptunian energies.

Take MC Hammer. He's intense.

in his chart:
Eris in 10'05 Aries
conjunct Sun in 9'37 Aries

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posted April 29, 2010 11:01 AM         

Off the top, the ones that seem very intense to me would be Kristen Stewart (Bella, Twilight), Shannen Doherty, Quentin Tarantino and Heath Ledger.

All 4 have astro data available but only Shannen and Heath have birth times. The interesting thing about those 2 is that they both have Water moons (Scorpio and Cancer, respectively).

posted April 29, 2010 03:37 PM         

She is also very strong in transneptunian energy.

The Hawaiian mother archetype transneptunian dwarf planet,Haumea is square her Sun.

Her Transneptunian dwarf planet Eris conjunct Moon can be very intense, but also into diversity,equality and can be controversial.

"There's the infamous serial killer, Jeffrey Dahmer. He was a pretty intense Gemini-Aries too, just not in a good way."

Jeffrey Dahmer is also transneptunian type.

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A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted April 29, 2010 04:01 PM         

He had 3 transneptunian dwarf planets aspecting his Sun in Gemini,and so his Gemini Sun is evolutionary intensified by the aspects to the transneptunian dwarf planets.

Sun in 0'48 Gemini
square Pluto in 3'36 Virgo
square Haumea in 29'00 Leo
sextile Makemake in 1'24 Leo

He had other aspects to big transneptunians

transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino,Ixion in 23'52 Libra
square Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis in 23'16 Cancer/Capricorn

transneptunian dwarf planet candidate,Quaoar in 17'43 Libra
conjunct/oppose Ascendant/Descendant in 19'26 Libra/Aries
oppose Moon in 19'54 Aries

His Mars aspected two transneptunians,and so his Mars is evolutionary intensified

Mars in 8'20 Aries
conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet,Eris in 10'08 Aries
square transneptunian dwarf planet/plutino,Orcus in 7'07 Cancer

His Right Ascension aka Equatorial Longitude shows strong transneptunian aspects too

transneptunian dwarf planet Eris in 18'23 Aries
conjunct Moon in 19'16 Aries
oppose/conjunct Ascendant/Descendant in 17'56 Libra

transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Varuna in 18'04 Taurus
conjunct Venus in 20'00 Taurus

transneptunian dwarf planet Makemake in 9'29 Leo
trine Mars in 7'57 Aries

transneptunian dwarf planet Haumea in 6'39 Virgo
square Mercury in 3'57 Gemini

transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Quaoar in 16'53 Libra R
conjunct/oppose Ascendant/Descendant in 17'56 Libra
oppose Moon in 19'16 Aries

transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino Orcus in 7'33 Cancer
square Mars in 7'57 Aries

transneptunian dwarf planet candidate
Ixion in 27'26 Libra Libra
square Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 25'06 Cancer/Capricorn

I also checked if the Pluto Nodes made aspects to his personal points:

Ascendant/Descendant axis in 19'26 Libra/Aries
square Geocentric North Pluto Node in 18'43 Cancer
square Geocentric Heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 19'46 Cancer/Capricorn

His Ascendant is strongly linked to collective Plutonian energy

He was very strong in transneptunian energy. No wonder he was intense.

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posted April 29, 2010 04:32 PM         

Sun in 22'21 Aries
square Geocentric South transneptunian dwarf planet Pluto Node 21'37 Capricorn

Mars in 18'34 Capricorn
oppose Geocentric North transneptunian dwarf planet Pluto Node in 18'32 Cancer
oppose transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Orcus in 19'15 Cancer

Moon in 15'39 Scorpio
square transneptunian dwarf planet Makemake in 13'15 Leo

Mercury in 3'13 Taurus R
conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Sedna in 1'47 Taurus
oppose transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino Ixion in 5'10 Scorpio R

Declinations:
Ascendant/Descendant contraparallel/parallel transneptunian dwarf planet Ixion - '02
Sun contraparallel transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Quaoar - '23

Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude):

transneptunian dwarf planet Eris in 19'36 Aries
conjunct Part of Fortune in 19'06 Aries
conjunct Sun in 20'40 Aries
square Mars in 20'14 Capricorn

transneptunian dwarf planet Haumea in 18'15 Virgo
oppose Venus in 18'37 Pisces
trine Mars in 20'14 Capricorn

transneptunian dwarf planet Makemake in 24'42 Leo
sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 24'24 Gemini/Sagittarius

transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Orcus in 19'39 Cancer
oppose Mars in 20'14 Capricorn
square Sun in 20'30 Aries
trine Venus in 18'37 Pisces

She has a Right Ascension T-Square of Sun-Eris in Aries, Mars in Capricorn,and Orcus in Cancer

She has a Right Ascension Wedge of Venus in Pisces, Mars in Capricorn, and Haumea in Virgo

She's very strong in transneptunian energy,and so there is no wonder that she's very intense. Also..with her strong Eris influence, it's no wonder that she known for being very discordant and controversial.

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posted April 30, 2010 12:30 PM         

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She's very strong in transneptunian energy,and so there is no wonder that she's very intense. Also..with her strong Eris influence, it's no wonder that she known for being very discordant and controversial.

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That's exactly what I was thinking. Eris is showing up prominently with these types as well, I see. I am thinking a prominent Eris definitely causes others to have mixed feelings about a person and/or their ideas or how they present themselves.

posted April 30, 2010 12:37 PM         

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people who personal planets,angles in 18 - 20 of the Mutable signs are more likely to be intense,sensitive,deep types

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Raymond,
Are you saying 18--until the end of the sign?
Thanks so much.
I have Gemini 28 as my sun.
Are you using the concept of "out of bounds" planets?
Thanks so much.

Ami

posted April 30, 2010 01:27 PM         

No...18 to 20 degrees of the mutable signs

I said that because Makemake Nodes are found around 19 to 20 degrees in Gemini/Sagittarius

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posted April 30, 2010 01:50 PM         

Yes...a person with a strong Eris influence can be controversial and discordant to others because they challenge the status quo.

"I wouldn't consider myself a controversial person but then again it's associated with my Venus, not my Sun. My love life has definitely been filled with controversy O_o"

I know that I have been that way. Even as a neurodiversity advocate running DNA, I am going to appear to be more controversial to people that believe that having neurological differences mean neurological defects including believing that ADHD is a disorder that needs to be medicated. There will be people angry with me for pushing change in the education system and the psychiatric system.

Please remember like all objects, Eris has positives too. It can also be belief/practice of equality,tolerance/acceptance of diversity,considering another's viewpoint,agreeing to disagreeing instead of arguing,bridging the gap, standing up for one's and other's rights like in advocacy,metaphysical insight with it being a transneptunian object. It can also be ahead of its time with with it being 21st century discovered object.

These are some of the keywords from other astrologers about Eris:

Roy MacKinnon:
Striving to achieve one's goals and refusing to capitulate to the pressure of unjust treatment and discord from abusive authority : with great inner conviction and single-mindedness of purpose following a path of high attainment and enlightenment notwithstanding adversity - alternatively refusing the call to transform with mediocrity and underachievement as consequences: issues around power abuse of minorities, the defenseless, the alien: networks, multinational countries and companies, the world- wide web: piracy, terrorism, clash of ideologies: conflict between desires of personality and pursuit of the inner call: persecution of the spiritually aware person who stands alone courageously acting according to conscience: an outstanding individual ahead of the times.

Zane Stein:
Loss of innocence, entrance into adulthood; child's trauma being separated from parent; acceptance of unavoidable changes; dying and being reborn (as opposed to Pluto which rules the causes/processes of death and rebirth); internal split causing longing to be whole, the longing of the soul for its other half; the subject/object of a debate, argument, competition, conflict or war...what stirs people to fight or disagree; fighting for one's rights; strife and discord; pitting one side against the other; competition, contests and tournaments; struggles for supremacy; rivalry; a test of skills or abilities; love of fighting or debate; what one has at stake in a competition, dispute or conflict, or one's perspective of what is being fought over; refusing to relinquish one's hold on an ideal, belief, cause, or object...'not budging an inch'; the problems resulting from irreconcilable differences; contrasting different perspectives; comparing thesis and antithesis in the search for truth; contrasting opposing viewpoints to reveal each side more clearly, to seek similarities as well as differences; contrasting logical thought processes to show the limitations of logic; identifying with, or trying to understand, first principles; incongruous juxtapositions to force one to think outside of the box; the ethics connected with one's motives and methods, and the coming to light of less than spotless methods; the roots of one's motivations; piracy, defrauding, swindling; society's ethics; race intent.

Francesco Schiavinotto
Dam; Damming; Obstruction; Obliteration; To be opposite; Aversion for the Extraneous; To obstacle the Alien; False Adaption between Different Matters; Reciprocal Aversion; Feeling to be Invaded; Resistance; Incommunicability; Controversial Figure; Ecological Incompatibility; Underground Instability

Jonathan Dunn
mobilization, tirelessness, restlessness, endless energy -
pursuing interests, avoiding boredom sublimated/repressed energy looking for outlets - ultimately the outlet of transcendence itself ...
also: I've seen most people with celibate leanings have strong Eris, though of course this is not the most common manifestation of the energy
Basically, (Carl) Jung believed that mental energy is created through the conflict of opposites. He said, "there is no energy unless there is a tension of opposites" (Jung, Two Essays 63). He called this energy libido. It is to be distinguished from Freud's definition of libido, in that Freud saw it only as pertaining to sexual desire, whereas Jung viewed libido as psychic energy in general. According to Jung, libido is the vital impulse of human life.

Godwin Cooke
Social Actors, Social Conformity, Dominant Social Ideology, the destruction what is old-fashioned for the sake of the fufillment of novel ideas, fitting in with a particular group, devoting your entire being to a particular Ideology, 'political correctness', the march of history, becoming a symbol of something greater than yourself and speaking for that thing; the concealment of or sacrifice of much of one's original individuality in order to gain total acceptance 'as' something, allowing you to by so doing obtain the influence over it to stamp one's remaining individuality onto the character of the thing itself.
http://www.zanestein.com/keywords.html#Eris

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