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racole12
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posted May 07, 2010 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
I'm just adding to the 2nd house ruler in the 11th theory...

My second house ruler (Moon) is in my 11th house/Taurus...

I have ADHD and mild Dyslexia and I'm severely right brained. (I was born 2 1/2 months early- which what caused the issues) They were shocked that I didn't die from the early birth (I needed to have heart surgery also) and they were pretty sure I was going to have major physical/mental health issues.

BUT I'm highly creative from it all

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Glaucus
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posted May 08, 2010 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"I have ADHD and mild Dyslexia and I'm severely right brained. (I was born 2 1/2 months early- which what caused the issues) They were shocked that I didn't die from the early birth (I needed to have heart surgery also) and they were pretty sure I was going to have major physical/mental health issues.

BUT I'm highly creative from it all "


It's the same with me too, but I had extreme Dyslexia and also had extreme Dyspraxia which made me pseudo-retarded (false impression of being retarded)in my early childhood years. Both got corrected through special education therapies, and so are mild now. The combination of both and ADHD leaves me with a I have moderate-extreme neurodivergence.

I think the word, extreme is probably better than severe. The latter is a word that seems to be used for disorder. The former is a word that can be neutral.

Does anybody else have ADHD,Dyslexia traits in your family? They are known to run in families and can be genetic.

This is definitely true in my case on both my mother's and father's side.

I was also born a month early, but I don't think that it has anything to do with my neurodivergence because of the strong family history of neurodivergent traits.


Also Omega 3 fatty acids tend to help neurodivergents process information better. That can be in the form of fish products or algae. I switched from fish products to algae because of my lacto ovo vegetarianism.
Many neurodivergents have problems converting ALA into DHA, and so they will probably not get much benefit from flaxseed oil. It didn't do a thing for me.


but yeah.......Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD are linked to creativity and problem-solving, and I believe that are connected to my abilities as creative writer,poet,and Astrologer. I also believe my ADHD is connected to my great speed,quick reflexes,and overall quickness. That could be a positive aspect of the ADHD's hyperactivity and impulsivity.


Ultrasensitivity is often common with neurodivergent people. They get viewed as having sensory integration issues. They can have gifts of empathy,intuition.


many entrepreneurs are Dyslexic and/or ADHD


It would be interested to see if you have a strong transneptunian chart that include hard aspects(conjunction,opposition,square) for evolutionary intensified challenges like I do.


We can start a new thread on that if you want.

I am very much into Astrological Neuro-Psychology and astrological indicators of neurological/learning differences.


I don't have 2nd house ruler in 11th nor even 11th house ruler in 2nd.

my Sun is in my 2nd house, and its conjunct the dwarf planet candidates, Ixion and Quaoar. My Sun and Ixion are conjunct with only 5 minutes of arc, and so that cazimi (in the heart of the Sun) is a very dominant major life theme. I have an unaspected Uranus in Libra in 2nd.

my 2nd house ruler, Venus is in Scorpio in 3rd conjuncts my chart ruler Mercury, and trines transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino, Orcus in Cancer in 11th as well as trine the Geocentric North Pluto Node in 11th and Geocentric Jupiter Node in Cancer in 11th.

my 11th house ruler Moon in Pisces is in 6th trining Sun-Ixion-Quaoar conjunction, square the transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Varuna with 10 minutes of arc, and sextile Sedna. As you see, the Moon is square Varuna with a very close orb, and can indicate a major life theme that involves evolutionary intensified challenges.

Moon is also the apex of a t-square with Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd and retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th.


but yeah
I would like to check out your chart if that's okay with you.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.
http://people.tribe.net/4b0cf8c4-1fc3-4171-92d3-b0915985bf95/blog

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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted May 08, 2010 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
So checking the harmonics charts can help with Twins?

Would anyone be interested in checking the charts of my twin boys?

I have really enjoyed reading this post, and I think I'm catching everything.

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We cannot seek or attain health, wealth, learning, justice or kindness in general. Action is always specific, concrete, individualized, unique. --Benjamin Jowett


It is in giving that we receive. --Saint Francis of Assisi

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racole12
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posted May 08, 2010 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus- I started a new topic topic called "Astrological Neuro-Psychology" which has my chart.

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DD
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posted May 08, 2010 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Liz Taylors perspective
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same
Sun-Mercury
Moon-Mercury
Moon-Venus
Moon-Jupiter
Venus-Moon
Venus-Pluto
Mars-Pluto: disbalanced
Mars-Mercury: disbalanced


complimentary

her Sun-Mercury to his Moon-Mercury
her moon-Mercury to his Sun-Mercury
her Moon-Venus to his Sun-Venus
her Moon-Pluto to his Sun-Pluto
her Venus-Pluto to his Mars-Pluto
her Venus-Mercury to his Mars-Mercury
her Venus-Venus to his Mars-Venus
her Venus-Uranus to his Mars-Uranus
her Venus-Neptune to his Mars-Neptune
her Mars-Pluto to his Venus-Pluto
her Mars-Sun to his Venus-Sun


without resonance
Sun-Neptune (3)
Sun-Moon (3)
Moon-Uranus (4)
Venus-Mercury (5) (rest of her const.)
Mars-Mercury (3) (rest of her const.)

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DD
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posted May 09, 2010 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I have refined my theory a bit more now (with the help of TPA, but not sticking to them sternly):


I wrote this to someone just today:

I was checking for:

°Partner pattern, indicated in the 7th house, and how the other fulfills it, indicated in the 1st house constellations - this has most influence on relationships of course, and the 1st house is a physical one; so the instinctive / physical experience plays a role, here.


° Binding pattern, indicated in the 8th house (I did not check the 2nd house, which I probably should have though)

° emotional area, indicated in the constellations of 5th and 4th house;
the 4th house is our basic emotional needs and being; the 5th house is indicative about how we express these needs, including our sexual / erotic style of course
(the 1st house is more about an instinctive / physical attraction, based on our hormones maybe, or some genetical thing; the 5th house is sexual attractions fuelled by emotions)

In the mentioned constellations the first planet is indicative of the area I have been looking at.

So,
Moon-Pluto means that the person is Plutonic in relation to the 4th house (Moon)
Pluto-Moon means that the person is lunar in relation to the 8th house (Pluto)
- even though these two are almost interchangeable.

Sun-Mars means that the person is Martian in relation to 5th house matters (Sun)
Venus-Mercury means that the person is Mercurial in relation to 7th house matters (Venus)
Mars-Neptune means that the person is Neptunian in relation to 1st house matters (Mars).

I only checked the basic / dominant constellations; there may be others, too, which may be influential, but more in the background. And I think it is important to see the MAIN factors first, before delving into details.

For this I checked:

Sign at the cusp of a house and intercepted sign (if any)
Ruler of the relevant house in another house
planets in the relevant house
the house these planets come from (rule)

Then I proceeded to check the pattern if any emerged.
There are three possible ways for a pattern:
- no resonance at all
- people have the SAME constellation
- people have a POLAR constellation

SAME constellations indicate that there is a similiarity between people, it can lead to innate understanding, a feeling of looking eye to eye, deep familiarity, but if there is an excess of SAME constellations it might lead to a "brother-sister-connection" rather than a great attraction;
They may feel they are "one of a kind"


POLAR constellations are indicative of magnetic attraction between two people, like key-and-lock, they may even give a feeling of completing each other; there is this feeling of "You were made for me"; but even though they are complimentary there are of course energetic differences (polar constellations are Venus-Mars or Sun-Moon), and these differences may lead to a very temperamental exchange, someone said to me about these constellations: "They are rollercoasters"

(Probably I should have checked your relevant planets in sign and house and aspects, too, but I have really concentrated on the houses as they are much quicker. You can add the planets yourself and see if they modify the themes)

Oh btw I checked only "direct" connections; with that I mean, only Mars-constellations were compared with Venus or Mars-constellations.
And only Sun constellations were compared with Moon or Sun constellations.
Of course it can be that a person has Venus-Saturn and the other person has neither Venus-Saturn nor Mars-Saturn, but Moon-Saturn.
That would mean that person A has a Saturnian need in terms of relationships (Venus / 7th house), but that person B`s instinctive nature (Mars) is not fulfilling that. BUT that person B has that Saturnian trait in terms of their emotional nature (Moon-Saturn).
This would probably give some sort of emotional understanding, but it is a connection that is "indirect", almost like a seasaw. Person A is seeking for a physical manifest relationship (7th house), but Person B gives her an emotional connection (4th house), but without having the fitting (physical) make up to fulfill her needs.

Having thought about this a bit more I think I would make a check list like this one:

1. partner/attraction pattern


Venus in sign and house
Venus aspects (conjunction, square, opposition)

DESC in sign
DESC-aspects (conj, square, opposition)
ruler of 7th house in house x (maybe also sign)
planets in 7th house
ruled houses of planets in 7th house

Mars in sign and house
Mars aspects

ASC in sign
ASC aspects
ruler of ASC in house (and sign)
planets in 1st house
ruled houses of 1st house planets

2. Binding patterns

Pluto in house (NOT sighn)
Pluto aspects

cusp 8 in sign
exact aspects to cusp 8 (only if birthtime is exact)
ruler of 8 in house (and sign)
planets in 8th house
ruled houses of 8th house planets


2nd or even 1st house

3. emotional pattern

Sun/ 5th house

Moon / 4th house

But maybe I am allowing too many constellations again.

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