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letram
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posted May 07, 2010 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
i have read a lot of topics about this nasty aspect in synastry in general, but most of what i read seemed to be about the Man's saturn hard aspecting her Venus, and all those horror stories.

i saw a lack of anything being said of how Women in relationships experienced their own Saturn hard aspecting the mans venus, how did this work or feel? did it work?

same for any men here, what was it like having Saturn hard aspecting your own Venus?

thanks for any shared experiences!

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posted May 07, 2010 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
It didn't work well for me twice, but I've seen it work for other couples. It depends on more than the fact that it's Venus-Saturn conjunction. You have to take into consideration what sign it occurs in and what houses are ruled by the planets and what other planets possibly aspect that conjunction.

For me, Saturn rules my 8th House of sexuality so while I was waiting for this guy to make a move, he was feeling controlled by my Saturn. Yes, nightmare. I still burn a match-size torch for the guy.

My best friend married a man and they had double Venus-Saturn conjunctions. They divorced after 7 years of marriage and 1 child, but they are stuck together for life because of their daughter. They don't live together but they have to cooperate in order to raise their child.

There are so many scenarios, but I just wanted to mention that it's not a nightmare for everyone, even thouogh I've had negative experience with it, it's not that way for everyone.

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posted May 09, 2010 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
people who have their saturn and pluto in square to my venus could not be my near friends but they could be superficial acquainted to me. I feel my life is strictly limited togheter with this people. I can't be my self. I feel it in my stomach.

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posted May 09, 2010 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I had the opposition with my ex-husband. His Venus in Capricorn was oppose my Saturn in Cancer.

I believe in hard Saturn stuff creating glue for relationships. I don't believe a single aspect will make or break a couple, and this one didn't but it kind of annoyed me. I just saw him as materialistic and it bugged me that it was how he expressed his affection. But he also gave gifts which were very meaningful too.
In some ways he thought I was a hardass about his whole expression of love thing. His was heavily associated with money. Mine is not.

But alternatively, my Uranus squared his Sun, as did my Pluto square his Venus. My Uranus squared his 7th house. I think those other things also add weight to the situation, while the Venus/Saturn opposition was kind of fluffy to me in comparison.

If it was HIS Saturn on my Venus and if it was a square, it would be a different story altogether

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posted May 09, 2010 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message
Well I can't wait to add my ten cents on this lol...My ex boyfriends venus was exactly conjunct my saturn and my venus was exactly square his saturn....it was a nightmare from the beginning lol. I really liked him and he said he liked me but sexually the timing was completely off..when I was in the mood he wasn't and when he was I wasn't......we just didn't understand each others needs and cater for them when the time was right so one of us was always in an unsatisfied and grumpy mood...now that I look back..It's actually quite funny. I would never again date a guy who had saturn/venus clashes with me...natal or progressed...waayyy too risky for my sanity

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posted May 09, 2010 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ohmybaby     Edit/Delete Message
I love being right! Oh I love it.

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letram
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posted May 09, 2010 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for the replies everyone, i actually have a Venus-square saturn double whammy with a person i have only serious feelings for, i guess after all i read, i should apparently not go any further with her.

but that would not be sane, so i will go all the way and hope that what was out of our control at the time of our births, doesn't dictate our fate.

wish me luck

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posted May 10, 2010 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
I have a Saturn/Venus square with a friend/lover. I'm the Venus. We met about 12 yrs ago... he very protective of me when we were in college. The relationship turned romantic back in feb- it was intense. (but I don't really think Saturn/Venus would be about sex... maybe more with Venus/Mars/Pluto?) Over the 12 yrs... we have been in communication with each other off and on and never really let go of the other... I also think it depends on Saturn in each of the natals... Saturn is heavy in both of our charts- so we can probably handle it. But, also- we have Venus/Sun Trine double whammy, Merc/Sun Double whammy and a couple really positive aspects... it really depends if there are other aspects to balance it out. (like we have Uranus conj Venus- which I know really helps out the Venus/Saturn). One thing I know is that we are realistic about our relationship- there is no fluff, but when he tells me he loves me I know he means it.

My Venus is in Scorpio- 5th house- which his Saturn is in Leo- so, hopefully the 5th/Leo thing will help with the energy... you got to look to see if there are more details that is going to help out the Saturn/Venus thing. Also,in our natals we both have Saturn/Venus aspects.

My parents have it double whammy- Venus conj Saturn, Saturn square Venus. They have had their ups and downs but they have been married for 32 yrs and never see themselves getting divorced.

Plus, I think it depends on where you are in your life. I'm 31 and 5-10 yrs ago there would be no way in hell I would of been in this relationship. My head was still in the clouds thinking unrealistic how relationships should be and think there was one prefect person out there for me. LOL.

Hope that helps...

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posted May 10, 2010 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
" i guess after all i read, i should apparently not go any further with her."

Wtf? Are you kidding?
Throw it out, man. Astrology is not everything...especially if you are still learning it and so much can be misinterpreted.
If you're in love with each other and want to be together, screw the synastry. I can give you a dozen examples of terrible synastry and awesome relationship.

If things are going badly it might have NOTHING to do with astrology.

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posted May 10, 2010 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Virgo...

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posted May 10, 2010 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message
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i have read a lot of topics about this nasty aspect in synastry in general, but most of what i read seemed to be about the Man's saturn hard aspecting her Venus, and all those horror stories.

OMG what do you mean Horror stories I've go this(his Sat opp my Venus)with the man I'm getting married to

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posted May 10, 2010 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
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Are you kidding?
Throw it out, man. Astrology is not everything...especially if you are still learning it and so much can be misinterpreted.
If you're in love with each other and want to be together, screw the synastry. I can give you a dozen examples of terrible synastry and awesome relationship.

I agree MVM

Letram - seriously, you are too stressed about these aspects! I have this in synastry (as I already told you lol) and I can't say I feel it.

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posted May 10, 2010 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message
Hi vapor-lash
Any info would be greatttttt

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posted May 10, 2010 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone ?

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posted May 10, 2010 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Most of my relationships have involved this aspect (my longest had it exact) because I have it natally and I tend to date within my age group. This isn't that hard to handle especially because I'm used to the energies. From what I can recall letram is that you have it natally too? Maybe it was someone else.

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posted May 10, 2010 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
which in my comment... I already said I have the Venus/Saturn energy and how it's working in my relationship.

I decided to look at my friend's parents since they have..

Her Saturn conj his Venus
His Saturn squared her Venus.

They have been married for 35 yrs and when I spend the night at their house and observe their behavior they are one of the most lovey dovey couples I have ever seen- and not in a gross way. They are always holding hands... kissing each other when one leaves or goes to bed and they have no issues telling each other that they love each other. A lot of affection in their relationship...

She natually has Saturn inconj Venus
and he has a sexile between the two...

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posted May 10, 2010 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lovely, I don't think it's a horror story. You need some hard Saturn aspects usually in relationship. It was hard for my own Venus to get squares from Saturn because
A) Venus is my chart ruler
B) The guy's Saturn was also squaring my Mars AND my Jupiter (that would be my entire t-square lol) AND my 1st/7th axis.
C) They just were wrong for me - and this had nothing to do with the astrology of it imo.

For me the Saturn square is hard because if it hits my Venus it will also hit my Mars and my Jupiter...all 3 are fixed and in a t-square and in close degrees and also ANGLE rulers.
So I would look at Venus in your chart and see where his Saturn hits. If it's not at a crucial angle, then you might not feel it. And if you already have hard Saturn stuff in your chart or even Cappy placements, then again, you might even not mind the Saturn stuff.
For instance, I don't mind someone's Saturn sq my sun. I think this might be because I have an unaspected sun whch needs contact, pure and simple.

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posted May 10, 2010 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
The couple above also have Uranus conj Venus and Venus sqaure Mars... which most astrologers would of told them to not get married b/c of these aspects plus with the Saturn aspects...

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posted May 10, 2010 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message
OMG *Faints*
We've got His Uranus Conjunct my Venus

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racole12
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posted May 10, 2010 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
does anybody know why my post aren't showing up... grrr.

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posted May 10, 2010 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, racole, interesting. My ex-husband and I had Venus conjunct Uranus (his Uranus).
All this meant was that he was in a hurry to up the commitment when we met.
I think Uranus also stands for falling in love quickly. They might argue out of love too, but I don't think so.
He didnt fall out of love. In fact, I was the one who left, but it was for many, many other reasons.

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posted May 10, 2010 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message
I see your posts racole12
Reading your post made me feel a little better MyVirgoMask
xoxo

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posted May 10, 2010 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Lovely, I have this Venus/Uranus with my boyfriend now and we live together. Things moved quickly. I will admit that.

But keep in mind that Saturn in aspect to the personal planets will want to make things official and 'legal', while Uranus will even be in a hurry to it lol.
Saturn and Uranus together hitting in synastry for me have been like the get serious quickly aspects.

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posted May 10, 2010 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
Lovely... I'm glad you are feeling better. Just remember- you aren't alone. I'm seriously considering getting married to the man I have the Saturn/Venus square.

MVM- I completely agree with you again. LOL. I have the Uranus conj Venus as well with the man I have been talking about. And he kept making jokes about getting married and how I was his prefect girl. We hadn't seen each other for 8 yrs- he was stationed in Europe and contacted me once he was back in the states. The first time we saw each other in 8 yrs- it was like love at first sight- even tho we had known each other for 12 yrs. LOL

If neither of us was serious hurt in a past relationship we would of probably gotten married that night. LOL

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posted May 10, 2010 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
I'm seriously tired of all the bad rep Saturn-Uranus- Neptune and Pluto get specially if they are involved in a bad aspect. I believe a connection is a connection. I have seen many Trines and Sextiles go seriously wrong. LOL

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