posted May 10, 2010 03:54 PM         

My Saturn is in Libra - so to do my Saturn would be to do my Libra (Venus). Zala once told me that wherever your Saturn is, is the place or area of life where most or the most important lessons will be learned.

So, issues Venus related for me, especially with my Venus in fall, in Virgo. So, I do feel a little restless and wonder about aimlessly when I don't have a romance to deal with. Does it get me depressed? Sometimes, but I do my best to fight it, and if I am already depressed, I try my best to snap out of it.

Saturn in Libra in 12th.
Venus in fall in Virgo (I think this saves me actually, because it makes me less concerned about Venus issues)
Moon in Cancer (I'm sensitive).

posted May 10, 2010 04:49 PM         

@Belgz:
I've spent most of my short years thus far in that same state of mine.
My Venus is in Pisces in my 7th house, conjunct my SN.
And my NN is in Virgo conjunct my Saturn and my Ascendant/Valentine.
And the ruler of my NN is Mercury and its also in Pisces in the 7th conjunct my SN....can you say a hot romantic mess!

Sun Aries
Moon Sag
Asc Virgo

I'm quite certain that my etheral view of relationships came from past lives spent connected to higher spiritual source in which I did experience the bliss of love in such away. I can remember looking for my soulmate in Kintergarten...at 4yrs old.....yeah....craziness.
And my life has been spent in one intense soulmate relationship to another...........looking for that endless love and compassion and I could not find it.
Like you I always ended up watching my relationships fall apart while I gave all I had. They started out with all the magic in the world but I always quickly learned it took two to keep that magic alive.
Til one day I decided enough was enough. Of course there was a little more to it than tha...but basically this past 2 years I have spent essentially learning how to love myself and being a balanced and complete individual. I can say that when our Mind, Body and Soul learn how to work as one....well you quickly learn that the love you get from the Source of your life force is constantly renewing itself day to day....and eventually you begin to see love creep through every crevice in your life....love you took for granted, some love that you never knew was there. But in general your cup will run over and you will need no one to fill it up.
Think about it Belgz, when we find ourselves in hopeless patterns, things will not change until we change. We are the source of the pattern. It is our Mind shaping Matter without checking in with our Body or our Soul...
Believe it or not inside of you is a connection to boundless love and compassion. But for some reason there are blocks in your Energy and instead of relying on your own connection to your Source you are trying to get it from other people.
The Universe will only show you love when you give it unconditionally.
Do you know what it means to love unconditionally?
Of course we do. But consider it for a minute.

It means that every bit of love and compassion that you give away you must give happily and expect nothing in return. That is giving something unconditonally. It means that you need nothing from that person. Only then will you attract the soulmate that is what you seek now. There truly is more happiness in giving than receiving Belgz.

The only thing is when you get it from them finally, you know find that special "one". You will laugh and realize that you no longer need it.
Your lesson in unconditional love has been learned.

posted May 10, 2010 06:16 PM         

In order for us to love someone else, we must first love ourselves.

posted May 11, 2010 06:11 PM         

It gets a little better with age, so maybe I'm 'doing my saturn' but, I don't think it ever really goes away. Pining, longing... all that stuff is part of my wiring.

posted May 11, 2010 07:03 PM         

Believe that no-one can make you disappointed. Love yourself and continue to do positive and good things. Perhaps direct your energy into something creative that defines you?

In any case - what is love? I'm wondering whether it is this make-believe, indefinable something that we chase, but which always reamins elusive - and that those who have more prosaic, "partnership"-oriented goals such as establishing a solid family life, and who accept that romance only lasts so long, and are content with their lot, are possibly the happiest in partnerships?

I find it interesting how men who are only just married talk about their wives - and when children come along, their attention/ love? is transferred from their spouse to their children. This happens with women as well. I guess this is just the natural order of things? - and most of us realize this, deep down, and try to prolong our "youth" for as long as possible, so sweet sensations of falling in love won't elude us - no matter how many times we do it...we need the excitement, the fix.

In the ideal world I would LOVE to have someone - but I realize that it would TOTALLY get in the way of my creativity. This is apparently a big obstacle in terms of my being a companion to a potential partner and a potential "workmate" in the relationship, as I am very expressive of my individuality and rather overwhelming at times - it's almost as if my partner wonders what exactly I need them for, as I am so "complete" and capable in myself (blowing my own trumpet here, but it's true). I have to say I do wonder what I would need them for myself sometimes, as for much of the time I exist perfectly well within my own head.

Being extremely creative means I simply cannot give a partner the attention they need - I have been heavily criticized by all my partners for this as I am so focused on my work - I was even told by a CAPRICORN (I am an Aries) that "I (didn't) know how to have fun"!!!!! But I can't help it and I can't compromise myself, because I only have so much energy - and rather than directing it into relationships that only seem to fizzle out anyway and be based on arguing, bickering, chores and eventual boredom, I have directed it into my work, and also building a better relationship with my parents. I don't have a desire for kids, so have accepted that romance is out of the picture for me - perhaps forever.

I have strong desires but an equally strong degree of physical self-control (Mars in Gem BUT in 10th & CJ Saturn - also a very strict upbringing), so am "able to keep a lid" on my actions to some degree - casual stuff is not really my bag.

I also find reading Greek and Roman philosophers is a good form of self-help, as they address problems with a less emotional bias than, say, religion, and therefore help to keep me grounded.

That's the way I feel about stuff right now... Hope this helps!

Love

posted May 11, 2010 07:15 PM         

WOW I felt like writing that down somewhere it was very well said. I absolutely agree with you and I do find love in everything but I am very dissapointed that I havent felt it from another. I see love in everything. I smile when i see flowers and sunlight and when i look around me i appreciate everything but i am at a stage where i wish to share that great feeling with another. It doesn't seem to come easily and when it does it seems only temporarily.

BRB to write more later..

posted May 11, 2010 08:26 PM         

Are the non romantic relationships in your life balanced?
Do you feel like you get as much love from others in your "circle of trust" as you feel like you give to them?