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bonadea33
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posted May 26, 2010 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here I have Natal Chart from Lord Byron (I think he was already here, before), who was in love with his half-sister (she had other father). They had one daughter. She told him to get married, because she was already married. With his wife he had also one daughter.
Most of his poems and poetry he made, thinking about his half-sister. He loved her until death (has died in Greece, 36 years old).

Lord Byron, Natal Chart:

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bonadea33
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posted May 26, 2010 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In German Forum, three years ago they told that connection from 3rd and 8th house means incest between sister and brother.

Byron was very good looking and had many women-lovers. He started to have sex with age of 9 years (how come?).

Searching information about his sister is very difficult. It is much better to read biographies, as I do. There are things, they might really happen.

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bonadea33
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posted May 26, 2010 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, but there is no time of birth for Giorgio Borgia, Lucrezia's father.
In the book they write only how Pope, Alexander VI loved his children; more Cesare than Lucrezia. Cesare was his idol and should be the next Pope. Cesare didn't like to be Cardinal and left it to be soldier.

B.

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Glaucus
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posted May 26, 2010 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I don`t know about the Borgias, but we really can`t conclude from the existence from certain aspects that two people are sleeping with each other.'


Yeah

We have to make sure not to take Astrology too much for granted. I feel that it happens a lot. People can get too judgmental through Astrology.

That's one of the criticisms against Astrology. I was confronted with it by a skeptic of Astrology. He is a metaphysican too.

Not all people in metaphysical believe that Astrology is real.


I have 3rd-8th house connection in my chart

Venus in Scorpio in 3rd square 8th house ruler Mars in Aquarius.

No history of incest nor early sexual experiences

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Benedict Moon*
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posted May 26, 2010 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with Glaucus....serious issues like incest are very hard to pinpoint with synastry or by natal chart. Neptune, my 3rd house ruler trines my 8th house moon and I can assure you that most of my male relatives are gross to me. Well not really, but the idea of anything romantic with them?......YUCK.

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posted May 26, 2010 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Venus is in my sister's 7th house cnj her Mars and square her Pluto.

She has her 3rd house ruler in her 8th house.

For a long time now, some people would get the vibe that we were in a lesbian relationship!

Besides the astro energy, I think this is because people can see we're obviously very close and bonded yet we don't get along as well as friends. Plus we don't look alike, so people probably rule out family as the relationship explaining our closeness.

My favorite example of this is from a couple of years ago. We were eating in a small cafe. The man seated next to us was by himself, and he kept looking at us. To me, his glances looked like he was trying to figure out what my sister and I were to one another. People do that a lot to us.

Later on, he jumped into our convo and then asked, "So, are you two together?"

Since I'd noticed his suspicion that we were lovers, I knew exactly what he meant by that.

My sister, otoh, didn't get what he was asking and said, "Uh, duh! We're sitting together. Of course we're here together."

I smiled and said we were sisters, and he confirmed that he'd thought we were a couple.

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posted May 26, 2010 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess this thread gives new definition to "relative closeness".

Reminds me of this X-rated joke I heard a long while back.....

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bonadea33
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posted June 30, 2014 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To have a proof for so long time ago, is really difficult to find.

When I have started working at the reception in one Hotel, we had there sister and brother, together in the room.
Every morning she came down laughing, with good mood and happy. I was curious about her and asked room maid, why this woman is so happy so early, before breakfast? Room maid told me, they sleep together like a couple, and if I don't believe, I should go in their room and see the bed. I didn't go.

From other side members of family on some Isles (before 2nd World War) slept together and some have even marred.

That means, we should take photo camera with us and make photos of couple in the bed.
To study Incest we have Astrology Charts and don't need a proof.


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KarkaQueen
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posted June 30, 2014 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use Tarot cards to find out about historical figures.. it works.

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MJ82
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posted June 30, 2014 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MJ82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently asteroid Pallas Athena deals with incest along with warrior struggles and intellect... look that up.

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bonadea33
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posted June 30, 2014 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I use Tarot cards to find out about historical figures.. it works.

If you can find that with Tarot Cards, in that case you must be very good Tarot Reader (for today's figures).


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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 30, 2014 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Habsburg! #FTW

Interesting thread!

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posted June 30, 2014 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
This has actually never been proven, its still just a rumor started by rivals of the Borgia family.

Exactly. They have great synastry, though..

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