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Topic: I am mystified
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DD Knowflake Posts: 4272 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 07:01 PM
Really. What is it about this guy, that attracts me to him? We don`t even have "my" classic preferred aspects.No Venus-Pluto, no Mars-Pluto. I really wonder where that kind of "pull" I feel comes from.
BTW I am the one in the outer ring. For those interested the relationship charts Composite: Davison:
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 24, 2010 07:12 PM
I read something about people with Aquarius energy always wanting something they can't really have... it either be the person that they want is either in another relationship or in a different geographical spot than you... and once they have it, they no longer want it. It's something to do about the mystery/keeping you intrigued/just out of reach game... ? IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 24, 2010 07:13 PM
and I was pointing to your Venus in the 11th house... lol. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 4272 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 07:20 PM
Actually it is his Venus in the 11th house.IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 24, 2010 07:25 PM
Never the less... what I was talking about was that Aquarius/Uranus energy in general. Which, you moon is in aquarius...IP: Logged |
Nine Knowflake Posts: 478 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 07:25 PM
I think it's the Moon-Moon aspect.IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 1053 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 07:30 PM
DD.You feel that he are attracted to you. His eros conj yours ceres/jupiter. He are real attractedyours psyche/BML conj his psyche. BML are mystified and go strong in to the soul. Maybe you se more describe in draconic which explain the deeply side between you... In Composite woow there we have it valentine conj lust...  If you have valentine lust in aspect to each other also in synastri I will think you get the feelings in many many year 
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DD Knowflake Posts: 4272 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 07:41 PM
Racole,Even though you are basically right, I feel this approach is too generalized. I know too many Aquarians who are not like this. Besides even if this is true, there is a reason why people "pick" other people. Otherwise I would be thinking of every man who is in a relationship or geographically distant from me. And this is not the case. So I think something about that particular guy and the particular synastry must "speak to me", and I am trying to figure out what it is. The Uranian theme may be something we have in common, thanks for pointing that out; him with Venus in 11th house sextile Uranus. Me with Moon in Aquarius. But the synastry isn`t really that URANIAN either. So this doesn`t seem to be the reason, or at least not the only one.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 4272 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 07:55 PM
Nine,you mean the one in the progressions? But actually I met him 2 years ago before, and there was no Moon-Moon aspect in the progressions; yet I did feel the same I do now, that I have seen him again. Popcorn,
no, the Lust-Valentine is not repeated in the synastry. The Draco is pretty "family-oriented". There is also a Venus-Pluto-conjunction fron tropical to Draco, but it is my Pluto, which I found surprising. He is inside, I am in the outer ring. Maybe I am just flattered by the attention he seemed to give me. lol
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popcorn Knowflake Posts: 1053 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 02:16 AM
Your Draconic also have strong connection from osc. l/BML/psyche and lust. Also your DR moon triggsBut the most significant must be eros - Juno DW in both Draconic and N synastry. Eros/IC conj juno in the same sign also in composite. I will believe it is so strong so everyone will se it. The conj for me normal are to wide in orb but because the DW I cant ignore it. It feels strong. Cupid's darts feels because psyche/eros get into touch with so strong I feel like you once a time to a man and I could not understand why I felt as I did. The only one I find out there must be the juno-pluto DW. Also my BML conj his N venus. I've no strong connection to my moon in that case. IP: Logged |
winter Knowflake Posts: 83 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 04:17 AM
Could it possibly be something as simple as Mercury? You have a Mercury ruled Descendant as does he.Your Mercury is conjunct His MC, Sun and Moon whilst his Mercury is conjunct your Ascendant, Neptune and Node.
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iQ Knowflake Posts: 1542 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 05:55 AM
Composite Jupiter in 5th with a Comp AMOR conj True Node. Expansive, romantic joy and love felt to bringing out the best in you.IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 1548 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 06:01 AM
Wowim with PopCorn in this one.... you have so mucj going on! what caught my eye were these ones right away your sun/merc with his sun/moon/mc! your lilith/posyche and his psyche: you get each other really deeply.
your ceres/jup with his eros:this one is really sweet. your IC cj his Ceres!hmmm he must have very deep nurturing and caring feelings torwards you DD.seems that he cares a lot about you,at your deepest core. look!your VX/Eros and saturn falls into his 5th...and his juno into your 8th:this tells me that there is here a strong emphasis in romance/love/intimacy. his stellium falls into your 9th:this one is not that romantic and maybe that is why you dont !"get" him like he gets you ..but he must be very fond of talking to you,sharing ideas,philosophies,religion? composite valentine cj Lust!this is really...hot!biut look it sqares psyche/vx/saturn so there might be something to be adjusted and balanced here...is it? but these also trines the ceres,so added to the love/erotic energies,there is again here a strong emphasis on caring/nurturing the other. NN cj Amor!cj Mars! moon and venus are in the 12th ...so...these emotional/love feelings are somewhat hidden? look DD!karma,saturn and vertex are in the house of committment! eros cj the IC.... and Jup in the 5th! Kiron is in the 29 degree and in the 3rd:wounds/healing in the house of comunication,siblings...is there any wound reharding 3rdH Issues? Davidson: this chart i still dont know how much acan be accurate but...look at that venus/mars cj! eros in the 12th so again,strong deep energies somehwat hidden . karma in the asc!fated! places moon in the 7th this time but sqaures pluto...so...is there manipulation/strong power struggles in the way you approach each other,emotionally?it is in the 8th..so...this house must be faced in a very profound way,in order for the plutonian energy to be released,perhaps? i would love IQ to take a peek here!
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DD Knowflake Posts: 4272 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 07:20 AM
Thanks for the responses! Popcorn,
I didn`t see an Eros-Juno DW, even though I would like to see one.  I do see a Valentine-Juno DW in the tropical synastry though. Winter,
yes, I noticed the DESC-ruler playing a vital roles here, too. Very interesting. I never met a guy before whose Sun was on my Mercury, and in this case it is Moon and MC, too. Maybe that is why he felt so familiar and approachable to me? IQ,
yes that is exactly how I feel around him. For a change it is nice to not feel that "dark karmic stuff" around someone. Even though with his Saturn squaring my Sun so exactly, oh boy. But it just proves, that there is always a Saturn square to Sun or Moon in my synastries. I have that even with my best friend (DW of Saturn square and opposite Moon). We have been friends for over 20 years though, and I don`t see that change. Diandra, thank you for that analysis. I loved to read that, especially the part where you wrote that he might care for me. The 9th stellium actually makes sense, as we are both Sagittarians, and even more so as yes we were talking about astrology actually, among other things. Yes, the feelings are hidden. Interestingly the composite Moon falls onto his natal Venus. Also the composite Sun conjuncts his Sun-Moon-mp and the composite Moon conjuncts my Sun-Moon-mp.
And yes, I suppose there is a wound regarding communication, at least how I feel it.
The Davison seems to be accurate. I just had a report in which the astrologers used it to describe what brought two people together, so in a way relating it a bit to the past. Their description made complete sense to me.
The Venus-Mars-conjunction in Taurus looks nice, but not so nice, if I see Uranus opposing and Saturn squaring it and Pluto being exactly quinkunx to it. Also the Davison Venus-Mars-conjunction falls onto his natal Chiron. Thanks a lot! 
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 25, 2010 02:34 PM
I wasn't meaning that the Uranus energy was the only thing triggering the situation... just maybe a piece of the puzzle. Also, Just throwing this out there... the only time I have been completely intrigued with a man/ him always being on my mind was when T Pluto was conj my DSC (venus point) and Mars... once the the aspect separated I became less interested. (I moved across the country to be with him and once the aspect moved out of orb I moved back home. The reason I bought this up is that I see T Pluto crossing over your Venus. Also, at the same time his natal Saturn was opposite my Prog Sun (maybe giving some temporary glue to work out our karmic issues) This aspect also moved out orb at the same time as the T Pluto conj my DSC) Another example... My Progressed Sun/Mars in Cappy was squaring his Sun, Mars and Venus in Libra. All these aspects became out of orb the same time as the ones I mentioned above... even though these are "hard aspects" and a lot of what I have heard progressed squares keep people a part but I believe that an aspect is an aspect no matter what form it comes in. Do you have any progressed planets forming any tight aspects to his outer planets... or anything related to the the examples I posted? I also had the Neptune conj Mercury aspect with him like you two have... Mercury is heavy in my chart and when someone's planets hit that point... it effects me dramatically. It was very mystical how I saw him... BUT also, I refused to see him in a realistic view. Just throwing out possibilities... IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 4272 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 02:40 PM
Racole,I appreciate your answers. And I think you`re right about the Uranian energy, basically. But I wanted to get a bit deeper into that synastry.  MErcury is heavy in my and his charts, too, as Winter noticed. Also, yes my pr Venus actually just moved into a perfect trine with his natal Pluto, which reiterates the transiting Pluto-natal Venus conjunction I am having currently. But then again, this wasn`t the case 2 years ago, and I felt the same way about him then. Now his pr Venus is also squaring my Mars, which isn`t all that great I think. The Venus-Pluto progression could be important though, as it seems to be a bit of a theme, not only in my transit chart: Both of us have a Venus-Pluto square natally (his Pluto is in the 7th, too) Venus squares Pluto in the composite, too his Venus conjuncts my Dr Pluto (and my Dr Venus widely opposes his Pluto) In the Davison Venus exactly quinkunx Pluto So maybe there is a bit of Venus-Pluto there after all, even though not through direct synastric aspects.
I actually find this synastry to be pretty multilayered, but then probably every synastry is. 
BTW were you the Mercury or Neptune person?
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 25, 2010 03:07 PM
I was the mercury person... I was in complete disillusion... I thought he was my "perfect" mate and in the end he was everything else but that... he wasn't using his Neptune in a positive way. He could of talked me into anything. Also, I had all these unrealistic dreams about him and us too. Plus we would stay up 3-4 days straight just talking until we couldn't keep our eyes open anymore. It was heavily romanticized. We also had Venus conj Mercury, Venus conj Pluto and Moon conj Uranus. I know my answers aren't very "deep" but I look at the big picture first before jumping into the details. EDIT: what degree is your Mercury? Since it's the ruler of your 7th- I'm just guessing your Mercury could be another "venus point" and a couple years ago maybe Pluto was close enough to be in aspect to your mercury.
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 25, 2010 03:11 PM
Also, I wouldn't dismiss the Venus square Mars progression... sometime people need "hard" aspects to make things happen... EDIT: also I keep hearing this theory about the "rule of three" ... if two planets keep popping up/being in aspect with each other no matter if it is Natal, Progressed or Transits... it's the theme of the situation if it pops up 3 times. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 4272 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 03:14 PM
Racole,I am the Neptune person, and he is the Mercury person, so in our case roles would be reversed then. My Mercury is on 25 Sagittarius, conjunct his Sun, Moon and MC. And I agree on the hard Venus-Mars aspects, they seem to be "sizzling". IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 1198 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 03:15 PM
Their Sun squares your Vertex (although I can't tell the orb so it might be out of orb anyway). Also you have Mars square Mars.Edit: Actually I guess it's him in the middle, so it would be his Vertex. Hm. Have you looked at your midpoints? IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 25, 2010 03:24 PM
I have read that when 2 people have a conj that there is a possibility the energy of the planets involved can be switched. You might be the Neptune person but you could be taking over the role of the mercury person instead...I don't know if this theory is true though. Right now I'm starting to lose my faith in Astrology... there always seems to be an exception to the rule... IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 4272 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 03:26 PM
Racole,don`t lose your faith in astrology. `Life simply isn`t one dimensional, and things are rarely black or white, not even astrology. Amowls,
good idea with the midpoints. BTW how do you interprete Vertex in synastry?And yes his Vertex is square my Sun. IP: Logged |
seeker3030 Knowflake Posts: 163 From: UK Registered: Dec 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 03:32 PM
Not sure but wouldn't his Sun in your first house have some kind of draw? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 4272 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 03:48 PM
I thought Sun in the 1st would rather signify familiarity?IP: Logged |
staborgi Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted May 25, 2010 09:49 PM
Hmm, this might be a long shot BUT you guys have yours Psyches conjunct...I have this with someone and we are both totally fascinated with each other and were inexplicably so from the start. I've never been able to find info on this except for one post a long time ago where someone said they thought it was indicative of "soul mates." Anyway, something to consider! IP: Logged |