posted August 18, 2010 11:22 AM            

I have Atlantis exactly trine Stonehenge/Hekate. You have the square aspect, if I remember right?

Also the Sabian Symbol of my Atlantis is:
A CARAVAN OF CARS HEADED TO THE WEST COAST

posted August 18, 2010 12:12 PM            

that Sabian is very telling, isn`t it?
Seems you did escape in a past life from there, going west. Makes sense.

Yes, Atlantis is exactly square Hekate in my chart (interestingly IQ`s Atlantis is exactly conjunct my Hekate).

Atlantis is also exactly sextile Wells, in my chart. I found that interesting as WElls is the little village near to Glastonbury. And I do not have to explain the meaning of Glastonbury, do I?

posted August 18, 2010 12:29 PM            

Now, there is no way the Atlanteans could have made it to Sumeria without first colonizing Europe, starting with the British Isles. Linda Goodman should have stumbled on this fact when she asserted indirectly that a form of English was the oldest language.
[refer Star Signs, chapter on Lexigrams/Word Druids etc.]
It was Atlantean English. Sanskrit, Hebrew and Tamil were totally different, mostly Alien Tongues. Pleiadians = Sanskrit, Sirians = Hebrew/Aramaic/Arabic, Tamil = Aldebaran? [Not sure of this but, UR is a Tamil Word, and the Annunaki were Rogue Aldebarans.]. Lyra = Atlantis = English.

Atlantean English and Sanskrit combination could have led to the other Indo-European Languages. Noam Chomsky would do wonders if he thought on these lines.

Perhaps all this knowledge is buried in your genetic memory, DD and WLeo? Maybe you studied this in your Austrian Archaeologist lifeline, DD?

DD wrote:
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Thanks DD, I like to give every reading a professional touch.

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posted August 18, 2010 12:34 PM            

Curiously we watched a TV just yesterday, where they confirmed that certain experiences and also feelings are being transferred genetically, at least from mother to daughter.

Now, another thing that did not surprise any of us a little bit.
We were like: Of course. Didn`t everyone know this?

posted August 18, 2010 12:39 PM              

i wonder why this period has always fascinated me? to top it off merin conjuncts my sun/pluto and with wells conjuncting angel conjuncting atlantis conjunting DC...there is a continuous line from DC to sun/pluto/merlin which stretches from 4 to 17*.

posted August 18, 2010 12:58 PM            

Anyway, I plan on visiting Glastonbury / Wells soon. Hopefully next year or the year after that.

posted August 18, 2010 02:34 PM            

Merlin square my Sun and trine KARMA

Arthur conjunct S. Node and square Guinevere

I want to visit Stonehenge/Glastonbury some day too.

See this picture, it looks like there's a pyramid under that hill.

posted August 18, 2010 04:15 PM            

I found out a long time after that that the name of that hill is Chalice hill.
Everytime I see it, it feels like home.
Difficult to explain it just feels like that.

Funny though the man I had been meeting ther ein my dream, crossed my path just days later.
And now I see that he has Merlin conjunct Arthur conjunct WElls on my Guinevere-Spirit-conjunction. Isn`t that goosebump worthy?

posted August 18, 2010 04:19 PM            

I actually was in Stonehenge in 1008 I believe - okay make that 1998 - but this written FReudian slip looks so right there, I let it remain here.

Anyway, in 1998 there were many tourists there, and I was feeling restless, it just felt wrong for all these people being there. They were trampling on SACRED GROUND, oh my!

Same feeling I got when some of the pupils of my class on the trip in Ireland would sit down on a stonecircle and eat and drink there.
It seemed so rude. I don`t know, maybe I am being oversensitive.

posted August 18, 2010 04:50 PM              

i believe there are several pyramids in ireland...according to tsarion anyway?

posted August 19, 2010 01:06 AM            

DD, I use AURA, SPIRIT, INTERKOSMOS, ANGEL, DNA, KARMA, GIZA and ATLANTIS to assess Star Seeds. If any of these Asteroids conjunct to one degree orb GC at 26.5 Sag, Super GC at 1 Libra, Aldebaran at 9 Gemini, Antares at 9 Sag, Fomalhaut at 3 Pisces, Regulus at 0.1 Virgo, Sirius at 14 Cancer, Spica-Arcturus 24 Libra or Alcyone at 0.3 Gemini, then the probability of the individual being a Star Seed is very high.
Aspects like Ascendant quincunx Uranus, Moon quincunx Uranus, Sun conj Uranus, Mercury sextile/trine/quincunx Uranus enhance the probability. Uranus rules Star Seeds just as Neptune rules Mystics/Old Earth Souls.

For some strange reason, the maximum percentage of Star Seeds have a Sagittarius Ascendant [because GC is in Sagittarius?] or Sun in the 12th House. I don't know why, perhaps to show they have unearthly hidden potential?

The rarest Ascendants for Star Seeds are Taurus and Scorpio. Libra, Cancer, Aries and Virgo are also somewhat rare. Surprisingly, not enough Aqua Risers too as expected. Very surprising to find many Capricorn Risers as Star Seeds, maybe the chance of GC falling in 12th House for them increases the probability. Leo appears many times [Atlantis effect?], Gemini to an extent. I am not counting Pisces, they become too mystical even if they are Star Seeds, they will surely confuse the precision of my research. It is also possible that only Sagittarius and Leo have the guts to admit their Star Seed potential and seek out readings, hence I am having results like these.

Good discussion on Atlantis/Stonehenge connection and Tors, lets continue that on DD's thread for WLeo.

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posted August 19, 2010 08:08 AM            

I hope you don`t mind if I try to apply these groundrules you layed to some charts.
I have the suspicion, that even though Andy may not be a Starseed, he definitely has a strong spirit; well it`s undoubtedly that he has a strong spiritual interest. Who else would delve into astrology, have a little Buddha statue in his appartment, quoting Osho on his concerts and mention as an introduction of a song, in a room full of probably sceptics, that children have the full ability to see angels as well as other person`s aura, which is the reason that they are usually not looking straight into your face but a bit sideways (to check your aura) (his words, not mine), which most grown ups have lost or surpressed.

posted August 19, 2010 01:55 PM            

I was checking the charts of my family. Maybe you can have a look and tell me if you agree with my conclusions?

My Dad
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Virgo ASC and Aqua Sun

no 12th house planets, though Pluto conjuncts the 12th house cusp in equal (but not Sun in 12)
(Angel and Atlantis in 12th house, which I find interesting regarding past life stuff, but not so much Starseed-indications)
no conjunctions to fixed stars

Uranus sextile Moon exact
Neptune square Mercury
Neptune sextile [Chiron conjunct Spirit]

others:
Aura conjunct Saturn conjunct ASC
DNA sextile Kaali in Scorpio exact
Exact Grand trine of Giza, Karma and Atlantis in Earth
Atlantis conjunct ASC (2.1)

my conclusion:
No Starseed
An Atlantean past lifeline very possible
possibly a little bit higher Reptilian DNA than usual, though the sextile is a weak aspect, isn`t it?
Or at least a harmonious one

my Mum
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Cancer ASC and Scorpio Sun

no 12th house planets

Uranus on 13°58 Cancer conjunct Sirius,
ASC is near Sirius, too. HEr birthtime is not exactly known; my rectification gave an ASC of about 12-13 Cancer, I need to do it again I think
opposes Atlantis on 12°32 Capricorn (near Vega)

(you said Uranus is the planets of Starseed, does it play a role if it conjuncts a fixed star,t oo, or is it too generational?)

Uranus trine Mercury exact

others:
Pallas conjunct Spirit; Spirit is on the ILLUMINATI degree, which might explain why she gets very defensive, almost scared if my brother starts about his conspiracy theories

Pallas / Spirit trine Moon exact
Interkosmos opposite Sun exact

Grand trine of Kaali, Mercury and Uranus in Water (Kaali in Pisces)

Atlantis on DESC opposing Uranus, sextile Kaali and MErcury

Angel square Pluto exact

Karma trine True Node exact

my conclusion:
if her ASC is right, then she might be a Starseed with Uranus being there, too.

She also has angular Atlantis, so I suppose an Atlantean past life is very possible, too.

Pallas / Spirit / Moon makes her pretty intuitive to the p oint of being psychic (well, that is true)

posted August 19, 2010 02:05 PM            

It's aligned with the Heliocentric South Uranus Node in Sagittarius

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posted August 19, 2010 02:31 PM            

I will never call anyone LOSER, cause I just find it insulting, oversimplyfying (especially in terms of the complexity of the human character) and paving a way into utmost judmentalism.

Cause you know, I am a loser, too, to everyone who thinks being married, having a driving licence, hopping from party to party, and worshipping the God Mammon is THE way to live.

That is what I mean, the term loser is dependent on one`s own view on life and the conviction that one`s own way is the only right one, and everyone else is, well, a loser.

I agree though that Pisces Moons and Neptunians have to learn to set boundaries and not get "eaten" by unhealthy patterns and people who are simply sucking their lifenergy without giving anything back."

Exactly!

I agree with you 100 percent.

A lot of people look down on alcoholics and drug addicts and refer to them as losers

but they can be sick people

also its not uncommon for alcoholics and drug addicts to actually have mental illness problems like depression anxiety. Also studies show that alcoholism and drug addiction is common among ADHDers too. Depression and anxiety disorders are common among ADHDers.

I used to be a client of Transitional Living Community Support. It helped homeless people that had mental illness and/or drug/alcohol problems. I was around a bunch of people that were homeless,mentally ill,and had problems with drugs and alcohol. Majority of the substance abusers that I knew had other diagnoses. Bipolar seem to be the most common. I had 2 roommates who were recovering drug addicts, and all were diagnosed as having bipolar. I was diagnosed bipolar too. Later on, they ended up getting new diagnoses. One was diagnosed as Major Depression, recurrent. The other was diagnosed as having Dysthymia. Before I left the transitional housing, I had a new diagnosis of Depression and Anxiety after fighting to get my Bipolar diagnoses change. Of course, I got diagnosed as Inattentive type ADHD,Generalized Anxiety Disorder,Dysthymic Disorder,and Avoidant Personality Disorder by psychologist a year after. I was receiving services from a mental health clinic, but they had to stop them because I had Inattentive type ADHD as a primary diagnoses.

My first roommate had Moon in Pisces trine Neptune. I remember the other guy had Moon conjunct Neptune in 12th. Both had codependency problems. The first roommate got into a relationship with a woman who was also client at TLCS and was in living in the same transitional housing complex. She was a recovering drug addict too, and she was diagnosed as bipolar. She ended up with a new diagnoses of Borderline Personality Disorder. The second roommate had a relationship with a woman who was in a program,but she was still abusing drugs. Of course, I had my own co-dependent issues with my mother. Being the only child having a mother with serious health problems isn't easy. She always needs my support in some way. That's my Moon in Pisces in 6th square Saturn-Neptune opposition corresponding Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint.

both my parents have history of drug problems. My mother has Sun in 12th trine Neptune in 5th which squares her Venus. She also has Neptune sesquiquadrate Midheaven in Pisces. She's also a recovering alcoholic. My biological father had Moon in Pisces and stationary retrograde Neptune in Virgo. I never knew him because he had drug problems. He disappeared without a trace. He had a history of selling drugs for his uncle and he went to prison for it. Both my parents are neurodivergents and had issues with depression and anxiety.

Substance abuse issues is common thing in my mom's side of the family. My fellow Pisces Moon maternal grandfather, who had Saturn oppose Neptune like me, was an alcoholic that committed suicide. He was suffering from depression and liver problems. He was also hyperactive type.

so I can't go around looking down on certain people and refer to them as "losers"

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posted August 19, 2010 02:57 PM            

Sun in Libra, Gemini ASC

no 12th house

no fixed star conjunction

Uranus quinkunx Midheaven

others:
Spirit square URanus exact
Spirit square Chiron
[Venus conjunct DNA] opposing Kaali exact
Angel sextile Sun exact
Grand trine in Water of Karma, Saturn/Chiron and Giza

my conclusion:
no Starseed
no Atlantean past lifeline

my middle brother (who has Down syndrome)
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Capricorn Sun, Aquarius ASC

Sun (and Kaali) in 12th house

Pallas conjunct Regulus

Neptune trine [Saturn conjunct Interkosmos]
Neptune square Atlantis

others:
Pallas square Moon in Scorpio
Pallas sextile True Node exact
Aura conjunct True Node
Spirit trine Karma exact
DNA conjunct Angel in Aries exact
Giza sextile Moon exact
Atlantis square Neptune
ASC sextile Karma exact

my conclusion:
possibly Starseed

An Angel (?) - I mean that DNA-Angel-conjunction is really something to look at

my youngest brother
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Sun and ASC in Pisces

Sun (and Mercury) in 12th house

Jupiter conjunct Antares (1.1)
Uranus conjunct Antares exact

Uranus conjunct Moon (3)
Uranus conjunct Jupiter
Neptune sextile Mercury exact
Neptune conjunct SN

others:
Pallas square Kaali exact
Pallas trine Angel exact
Spirit square [Saturn conjunct Giza]
Interkosmos square Karma exact
[Kaali conjunct DNA 2.2] opposite Venus
(see how that mirrors my aunt, and they are really similiar)
DNA sextile Moon, Jupiter and Uranus
Atlantis trine MErcury
Atlantis conjunct IC and SN (3.3)
Atlantis square ASC
Atlantis opposite Neptune
Atlantis trine Pluto

my conclusion:
probably Starseed, though I don`t know enough about Antares

possibly more Reptilian DNA than usual (though I guess in his case it makes him more conscious of these things, yet he doesn`t exploit others in any way, quite the reverse)

his Atlantis is just as strong as mine, actually the aspects in both our natals are almost mirroring each other, anyway I suspect an Atlantean past life here, too

my own chart
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Sun and ASC in Sagittarius

Sun conjunct GC

Neptune conjunct Antares
True Node conjunct Antares
Atlantis conjunct Antares

Neptune conjunct ASC and True Node

others:
Pallas sextile Neptune exact
Pallas trine Pluto exact
Pallas sextile Atlantis
Aura conjunct IC
Spirit sextile Jupiter exact
Spirit square Pluto
Spirit square Giza exact
Pluto opposite Giza (boy, The Egyptian lifeline must have been real "fun" :sarcastic: )
Angel conjunct ASC exact
Angel conjunct Atlantis
DNA opposite Chiron exact
Karma trine Moon
Giza trine Neptune and True Node exact
Giza widely trine Atlantis (2.2)
Atlantis conjunct Neptune, True Node, ASC and Angel
Atlantis sextile Pluto and Pallas

Well, if I look over these check ups, I seem to notice that my parents as well as my brothers and me have pretty strong Atlantis. It`s angular in all cases. Except for my middle brother we all have Atlantis conjunct an angle.

Also my brother and me all have a challenging aspect (conjunction, opposition, square) between Atlantis and Neptune.