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LEXX
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posted August 19, 2010 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iQ...
on average,
how long does it take you to do each of these readings?

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posted August 19, 2010 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ can you take a look at my chart? But, I'm pretty sure I'm not a star seed tho but I do relate to about having many jobs/degrees and none of them completely feeling right

Dec. 11, 1978 @ 5:50pm- Cincinnati, OH

Thanks!

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posted August 19, 2010 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can meaning be derived from asteroids which are named rather randomly, and with attached preconceptions and up to and including some very silly names to boot?
And many only recently found. http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/lists/MPNames.html

Well, on that note.....
curious where or if the following are in my chart, and what they mean:

(1930) Lucifer
(2244) Tesla
(3582) Cyrano


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posted August 19, 2010 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How can meaning be derived from asteroids which are named rather randomly, and with attached preconceptions and up to and including some very silly names to boot?

no idea LEXX, but in my experience they really work, asteroids never stop to amaze me

so you have:

Tesla (22'34 Libra) in the 9th conj your MC (3 degrees orb)
Since Tesla in your 9th conj MC I think he/his life or ideas influenced your belief system thus your life and maybe how you see the purpose of your life in a great way, maybe you even see him as some sort of a role model?

Cyrano (27'35 Cap) in the 1st sextile your Venus (1)
Cyrano is in your 1st, do you somehow idetify with this person? anyway you must love his works because of the sextile to Venus

Lucifer (12 Aries) quincunx your Sun/Saturn (2/1)
Lucifer, that's a difficult one, I once started a thread on Lucifer here's the link: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/001796.html
in my personal opinion, Lucifer hassomething to do with self-love, but there is a catch: put yourself before others or others before yourself and you will fall ... something like that ... it is all about the right balance I would think the native with this aspect might need a balance between self-love and Ego but I don't think this is true in your case, maybe it has something to do with your experiences/hardships and how you percieve religion...dunno I am lost here maybe IQ will shed some light.

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posted August 19, 2010 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri
Actually what you wrote makes perfect sense to me!
Thank you!

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posted August 19, 2010 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good to know I could be of help
thanks for the feedback!

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posted August 19, 2010 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am definitely a believer in Asteroid Astrology.

I even believe that Asteroid Nodes work in Astrology work too. After all, all objects have nodes. They are just the intersection of the orbital planes of 2 objects. The Asteroids nodes refer to the asteroid's orbits. If you got a planet,angle in aspect to an asteroid node, then you the planet,angle is linked to the orbit of that asteroid.

You can use both geocentric and heliocentric nodes of the asteroids.

I am starting to believe that you should mix geocentric and heliocentric up because it's like mixing apples and oranges.

It would also be best to keep the orbs narrow. no wider than 1 degree.

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posted August 19, 2010 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri
I know many will think me nutters or even evil...
but I posted on your link and added my link. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/001796.html

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posted August 19, 2010 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had to share... I thought it was funny in the wrong kind of way... a lot of scenarios are running thru my head. I looked up Lucifer for the first time and it's conjuncted to my Juno...

probably guess what is running thru my head... maybe someone can give me a positive image of this aspect?

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posted August 19, 2010 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe it's something along the lines of what Peri said about it... finding a balance. I'm not married yet, but committed relationships come in all forms... so maybe I need to find a balance in them. I usually all about self-sacrifice as in putting people's needs in front of my own... but the last couple years that started to change. it's in the 9th house- Aquarius, squared Uranus & Moon, sextile Neptune/Sun, Trine Pluto...

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posted August 19, 2010 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
juno conjunct lucifer can be a partner that bears light

lucifer means lightbearer

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posted August 19, 2010 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
racole12
Perhaps this is of interest?
quote:
Lucina (goddess)
In ancient Roman religion and myth, Lucina was the goddess of childbirth. She safeguarded the lives of women in labour. Later, Lucina was an epithet for
Juno.
The name was generally taken to have the sense of
"she who brings children into the light" (Latin: lux "light"), but may actually have been derived from lucus ("grove") after a sacred grove of lotus trees on the Esquiline Hill associated with the goddess. The asteroid 146 Lucina is named after the goddess.

Lucina was chief among a number of deities who influenced or guided every aspect of birth and child development, such as Vagitanus, who opened the newborn's mouth to cry, and Fabulinus, who enabled the child's first articulate speech. Among other minor deities within this sphere of influence were the Di nixi, Alemonia, Partula, Prorsa Postverta, Levana, Cunina, Rumina, Potina, Edusa, Sentia, Statanus, Abeona, and Paventia.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucina_%28goddess%29

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posted August 19, 2010 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooo... thanks! That definitely changed how I looked at the aspects! Crazy what being informed can do! lol

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LEXX on the question of how can these randomly named asteroids work i think it is a matter of synchronicity at work. why were their specific names chosen? sometimes because they suggested some sort of character to the astronomers? i don't know, but for instance pluto was "hidden" for a long time, is considered to be cold and has an erratic orbit...mars is red...so all heavenly bodies have probably given their namers SOME clues. or maybe the namer just had a fondness for that mythical character or person. some of them are just first name items.

i know you understand synchronicity and that is what i have felt about the asteroids. it is UNCANNY sometimes that you will find, say an asteroid that combines the names of two people in your life or reading, etc.

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posted August 19, 2010 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
racole12
Thank you!

katatonic
I agree!

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posted August 19, 2010 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dwarf planet Pluto's name was suggested by a school girl.
The first 2 letters honored Percival Lowell.

some of the centaurs' names were suggested by astrologers and accepted. The orbit was a factor in their names. The first one whose name was suggested by astrologers was Nessus.

Dwarf planet candidate Sedna's name was suggested because it was the most distant,coldest object at the time

Dwarf planet Eris was named because its discovery as a transneptunian object object larger than Pluto led to astronomers arguing among themselves if Pluto was a planet or not. Michael Brown said the name fit the object so much that he almost believed in Astrology.

as a rule, plutinos are named after underworld characters in mythology and cubewanos are named after creation characters in mythology

Michael Brown suggested the names for dwarf planets Haumea and Makemake because he discovered those objects around the time of his wife's pregnancy. They are named after Fertility Creation Deities.


some asteroids are even named after people in science fairs

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posted August 20, 2010 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lexx,
I have explained how Asteroids work here: http://www.tamsoft.co.in/pogson.html

Time taken for readings?
Professional Readings take 3-4 hours, I dont use pre-written descriptions, every word is typed and inspired for the client at that specific moment. For some clients I have spent 10-12 hours as well, such were the chart complexities. They will ask 100s of questions, such is their level of motivation for Self Growth.

Snapshot readings take 10, 15 maybe 45 minutes depending on the chart complexity, and whether I feel like analyzing further or not. I usually don't worry much about Fire Signs, they have natural drive to succeed so a short reading is enough to remove some roadblocks for them.
Air Signs cant get enough data so I give enough info for them to be provoked into doing further research on their own.
Earth Signs need longer readings, they are practical and need correctly worded guidance.
They wont accept vagueness.
But when I see an afflicted water sign chart, I spend a lot of time on the snapshots. I have to ensure that they "feel" everything I have written. It has to get into their subconscious, the words have to destroy their self-esteem barriers, guilt, self-pity, and any self-loathing/depressive tendencies.

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posted August 20, 2010 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx,

I looked Lucina up a few months ago, I found the name so interesting, and of course the attributed meaning.

And then I put it into my chart, and to my surprise, it turned out to be exactly conjunct my Moon.
Moon: 17°06 Aquarius
Lucina: 17°24 Aquarius


Things like these frequently happen, if I feel drawn to an asteroid, just based on the way the word looks at me, sometimes not even knowing its meaning beforehand.l
But if it "jumps out" at me, it often turns out to be conjunct my Sun, Moon, ASC, NN, and for some reason Pluto.

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posted August 20, 2010 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucifer is one of the greatest teachers.
Lucifer can teach a warrior to be able to infuse all the evil in the Universe, and still seek out God. Lord Siva was able to drink the poison meant for humanity. Goody Goody two shoes who talk of love and light cannot do that.
Lucifer teaches the warrior to blast the other cheek of the tyrant. He teaches the warrior that it is ok to earn some bad karmas for ensuring that those with mountains of bad karma don't keep adding to it. He teaches disobedience of authority for growth. The bad misuse it, the good use it.
Lucifer loves God too. No one from the Divine Presence can hate the Source of Existence. He has taken the greatest challenge of controlling the dark side. The Luciferian may doom himself but not Lucifer, God will save him. He is the black hole that can inspire billions of galaxies after transmutation.
Lucifer teaches about the ultimate power in physical reality. It is to be able to harm anyone as much as you want with no fear of retaliation or punishment, and then to choose not do to so.

I have Lucifer exact conjunct Super Galactic Center. I understand him from all levels comprehensible to mankind.

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posted August 20, 2010 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I understand him from all levels comprehensible to mankind"
Exactly what Lucifer would say.

His greatest virtue being his greatest flaw at the same time. The complete reliance of the superiority of his own mind. As a virtue it can make one see the truth, without holy smoke clouding your judgement, as a flaw it can lead into a trail of arrogance.

But Lucifer also has the tool to find the right path, I think, I hope.

BTW I think Lexx and IQ, you are talking about different "Gods".
Lexx seems to be talking about the God of the bible.
And IQ, I got the impression, you are talking about the essence of creation, about the God that actually IS love.


But I am not so firm in these terminologies. It just occurred to me, that the use of the name "God" could lead to misunderstandings and miscommunication, if the definition is not clear.
Or it is just me, who got confused for a moment there. lol

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posted August 20, 2010 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correct DD! I am referring to God as the Universal and Infinite Source of All That Is.
Existing as pure Loving Energy in His Infinite State, Dreaming up the Finite State with all sorts of layers/dimensions with Multiple Universes, illusions of Time, Lght vs Dark Polarity etc.
The Judeo-Christian-Islamic god is probably an ET Collective that wished to manipulate the Hebrew Tribes in the middle East/Egypt. They don't even have a punctuation mark worth of reference in the great civilizations of India, China etc. The Gnostic Texts have exposed the biblical god as Samael, the confused Entity. The Hermetic Orders identify him as Yahweh, a very dark Entity that wants to displace Gaia, the Earth Soul, and create Galactic Chaos with programmed warriors from Earth. A single Rishi like Vihswamitra can control millions of Yahwehs with one mantra. But the Rishis don't play about in Kali Yuga. Kali Yuga is a free for all for all those not evolved into the 5th Dimension, including Yahweh and his Annunaki cronies.

The marketing for the Semitic ET Collective or Annunakis was done by the Roman Catholic Church, after the Nicene Conference.
Other dieties and ETS are constantly communicating with their own Occult Lodge for centuries.

Arrogance is a Luciferian Trait, but Lucifer only pretends to be Arrogant, to help identify the diamonds of God from the sea of glass beads. This is where Pluto theme helps in understanding Lucifer. Even the Asteroid Number for Lucifer = 1930, the year of Pluto's Discovery.

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Notice how Sufi Muslims, Gnostic Christians and Kabbalistic Jews teach the real God as Being Infinite Light. The Spiritual Thread always runs in the darkness of orthodoxy.

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posted August 20, 2010 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"!Arrogance is a Luciferian Trait, but Lucifer only pretends to be Arrogant, to help identify the diamonds of God from the sea of glass beads."

Let`s hope so.


Personally I think that a strong Lucifer may bring some personal power, charisma, and with it the choice to handle this power responsibly.

I mean he stood up against the authority, that demands a lot of power, doesn`t it?


And yes I agree, on God being "infinite light".

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posted August 20, 2010 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I shall reply more later, but for now is my take on the true God and the false god and a bit on what too many folks were deceived into and are still being deceived in to thinking those were/are good entities. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000277.html

It is better to rule in a hell than serve in a heaven.
Will explain that later.
Also Lucifer is not arrogant, when he is right he is simply sure of his convictions. A big difference!
LORD God of the Eden zoo was the arrogant self delusional one, the Evil Demiurge, who used/had many names including Baal, and Samael (the blind god, as in delusional), and Yaweh, Jehjovah...and yes, also certain angelic names, especially Micheal...etc.
More on that later or at Divine Diversities.
PS. We are the true God who as I wrote of, is a part of each of us, learning as each of us.
He is not "the light" a catch all term used by the deceivers who use "light, bright, and radiantly beautiful" to deceive humanity.
The best easiest way to deceive naive humanity, by making them fearful of the darkness where truth can be found, which is not evil, but "they" wanted to keep us fearful of going within into our inner selves, our darkness, our serene place, where truth needs no glamouring false light, it is what it is...where indeed the god spark which is us still lives.

Again, please read this entire thread.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000277.html
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posted August 20, 2010 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a fine line between arrogance and firm conviction.


On light and darkness.
I didn`t understand IQ`s use of the word in a literal way, but understood it as a metaphor of truth, acceptance and love.
Maybe I understood it wrong.

Also, when I had been working on understanding the symbol of vampires in a personal way (as I had to, given the frequency they appeared in my dreams. lol), I also started seeing "darkness / night" and "light / day" as metaphors for instinct / soul / subconsciousness and reason / mind / consciousness.

It is wrong to suppress the "darkness", as by suppressing it we take away our chance to get to know ourselves in a very deep way.
Pluto was ruler of the underworld, the darkness, and his name means: "the rich one".
It is there that we can find treasures, deep inside.

What I want to say is that I think both are sides of life. The day as well as the night.

The problem starts if one tilts the balance by degrading one, and overemphasizing the other one, glorifying it.

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