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Topic: Why Does Great Synastry Bomb?
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Ami Ann
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posted May 30, 2010 11:01 AM
 
This perhaps dumb question  is on my mind.
Many people here know the charts.
They find a person who fits on many levels.
Sometimes, the fit is magical.
Why doesn't it work?
Forgive the stupidity of the question cuz I know it seems dense.
It does to me, too, but yet I wonder.
Thanks so much, dear Astro friends!
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Venus De Milo
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posted May 30, 2010 11:13 AM
Free will?Poor timing? Aren't ready yet? Not enlightened enough for something so beautiful? Bad karma? I've thought about this a lot myself. I had amazing synastry with a Pisces I was crazy about. I think the both of us had a tremendous amount of growing to do before something like that could be realized. Next lifetime. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted May 30, 2010 11:46 AM
Because we still don`t really understand the language "astrology" into depth.
WE understand bits here and bits there, but there are still some "vocabulary" or the "semantics of a word in a certain context" that we do not know.
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comica23
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posted May 30, 2010 12:04 PM
But great compatibility doesn't mean great relationship, great compatibility is just great compatibility, for better or worse. Great compatibility just means easier flow of energies between a couple.And I agree with DD, we know so little to be able to draw accurate enough conclusions. Also, maybe apparently a synastry can look so pretty, but then not so pretty things are hidden. Same goes for not so good looking synastries, that could have hidden treasures. I would suggest to look at the composite too, that shows how the relationship is, that can show how the compatibility or incompatibility in the synastry can manifest in the end. But well, composites are more than just the "visible" aspects, as the aspects to/between midpoints also works too. But then the composite can be very complex too, and very hard to understand everything it can show (just like a relationship can be). Aside of synastry and composite, then we have transits, progressions and etc. to look at too. Many things, just like the real life can have an influence on how a relationship goes. So the synastry might show a lot, but then it's hard to completely analyze all the info it has to offer, and then even harder to analyze the rest that can be found through other methods. In the end, it's better to use astrology to help us analyze the dynamics of a relationship, but then put it aside and try to use our hearts and intuition to understand it. IP: Logged |
angel100
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posted May 30, 2010 12:07 PM
Maybe great synastry bombs because the amazing aspects haven't been activated by transits, progressions or solar arc? Maybe the planets involved in the aspects are not personal to the individual? Who knows? IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted May 30, 2010 01:29 PM
Yes, I wonder if maybe people have great aspects but then can not work with those aspects that are less than great and those pull the people apart.
Ami
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letram
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posted May 30, 2010 01:43 PM
astrology offers insight into what the potential energies at hand and at play are in the charts.
just like no exact birth charts mean two people exactly the same, no relationship is the same.
things that a natal chart cant decide for certain is maturity, two mature adults with some intelligence are more prone to resolve and work out issues than two immature adults that have less. it still takes things astrology can't control to decide how well two together can be. its about how the two can handle the energies i would think, both natally, and jsut in life its self, how mature or intelligent, understanding, bla bla. it might play out in different ways that some might be able to figure out and work that others cant. IP: Logged |
mermaid26
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posted May 30, 2010 02:04 PM
We are ALL complex and ALL relationships are hence doubly complex. Each sign has their positive and negative traits. Things will get out of synch just by the natural movement of the heavens. Hence this presents challenges and continued growth and opportunities for ever learning. Nothing remains the same, the basic law of physics/energy and nature. Here is the ability for adaptation or the lack thereof.
Hence the origin of the marital vow for better or worse...no one said it would be easy and smooth sailing 100%.
Unconditional love is present through it all and some just aren't ready to handle the storms in life as much as others. People resort to the lower nature because it is simply easier. That why any good relationship is so important...to be the hand that helps, supports, and lifts and guides and shares with another.Love the Tom Hanks movie where he is shipwrecked and draws the smiling face on the ball so that he doesn't feel lonely. I think it's easy to forget how to really cherish and thank each person that has entered into a relationship with us. Love the saying "People enter your life for a reason, a season, or a lifetime." We must have faith that there is always a positive lesson to learn for our positive growth in every situation. It is with this perspective that we can move on to bigger and better things. Appearances are deceiving and never judge a book by its cover...look within. IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted May 30, 2010 02:59 PM
It probably doesn't work cos the people involved are not at a place to accept nor appreciate these wonderful placements.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted May 30, 2010 03:03 PM
Because astrology isn't everything?IP: Logged |
Unmoved
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posted May 30, 2010 03:25 PM
quote:
It probably doesn't work cos the people involved are not at a place to accept nor appreciate these wonderful placements.
Nice theory. ------------------
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staborgi
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posted May 30, 2010 03:30 PM
Lately I have a harder and harder time subscribing to traditional astrological interpretations because each natal planet means a lot of different things in ones chart. For example, I guess you could say someone's Moon conjunct your Venus is a traditionally great aspect to have in synastry. But what if your Venus rules your SN and 12th house? Suddenly, despite the energies of the inter-aspect, there's a whole other layer that makes it uncomfortable, among other things. Lately, I am very very hesitant of doing any kind of synastry interpretation without time of birth and serious consideration to natals. I feel like doing synastry without this is like drawing a picture, whereas including that knowledge is more like a sculpture, if that makes sense  And I agree with DD, there's still a lot most of us don't incorporate. IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted May 30, 2010 04:04 PM
Hi AmiAnn,When you have all compatible inner-aspects,
the relationship could just be to easy and probably a little boring.
You need a little spice to liven things up.
With the exception of a hard aspect between Venus and Saturn most difficult aspects can be worked through, and sometimes you can even work through a Venus/Saturn aspect.
(if it's in the Natal) Most important in synastry is the aspect the Rulers of the Ascendant make to each other. (even hard aspects)
Without this, there is little chance of the relationship working in the long run.  out babe IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted May 30, 2010 04:07 PM
Thanks Unmoved 
Hope you are back on full throttle now xxIP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted May 30, 2010 05:25 PM
Dear Lalalinda
I have the chart rulers conjunct in synastry.
I remember you saying how important that was--before.
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Ami Ann
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posted May 30, 2010 05:25 PM
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Lara
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posted May 30, 2010 05:41 PM
Chart rulers.... so if they are Leo ASC then ruler is sun, right?
So if the suns are cj exact then is that chart rulers cj? I'm being really slow tonight, sorry!! IP: Logged |
DD
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posted May 30, 2010 06:00 PM
I think the DESC ruler aspecting ASC ruler are equally important as ASC ruler aspecting ASC ruler.
The ASC rulers in aspect of course show that two people "get" each other, and resonate with each other.
My ASC ruler is opposing someone`s ASC ruler, while his DESC ruler is conjunct my ASC and my DESC ruler is conjunct his ASC-ruler.
I have never met a guy that were simultaneiously so familiar and yet intriguing.
I must admit, I am quite a bit fascinated. lol
Actually in this particular synastry there are several aspects between rulers of the main angles.
His ASC-ruler widely square my IC-ruler.
his ASC- ruler widely trine my MC-ruler .
his ASC- ruler opposes my ASC-ruler
his ASC - ruler conjuncts my DESC-ruler
his DESC-ruler conjuncts my ASC
his DESC - ruler squares my ASC-ruler
his DESC-ruler conjuncts my IC-ruler
his IC-ruler conjuncts my ASC
his IC-ruler squares my ASC-ruler
his IC-ruler conjuncts my IC-ruler
his MC-ruler widely square my IC-ruler
his MC - ruler widely trine my MC-ruler
his MC-ruler opposes my ASC-ruler.
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Got Gemini?
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posted May 30, 2010 11:06 PM
Probably also because aspects are not fatalistic. Just because an aspect is there doesn't mean it will play out that way. Plus free will! ------------------
Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy! IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted May 30, 2010 11:08 PM
Great synastry means nothing if the composite is not great. In fact, I am beginning to believe that composite trumps synastry. Sad but true...IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian
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posted May 31, 2010 05:18 AM
Probably just like our signs, its the potential we have, the energy that we are given to work with, after that....its up to you two  ------------------
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iQ
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posted May 31, 2010 06:58 AM
Synastry is great and composite is bad = Difficulties in relationship but amicable friendship.Synastry is bad and composite is great = good chances of a successful relationship but happiness could be a casualty as time progresses. Good Synastry and Good Composite = Maximum Success in a relationship. In general, a wise person who has maximized his or her chart potential will succeed in any relationship with any synastry/composite because by the Law of Attraction, only the positive astrological features will be activated. Likewise, an ignorant beast will activate only the poor astrological aspects and will fail in every relationship even with 100% trines or sextiles. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted May 31, 2010 08:35 AM
Ignorant beast LOL --What a visual! x o x Ami
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mermaid26
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posted May 31, 2010 10:51 AM
I see ranting and raging in the word ignorant. So another good translation of the lower nature would be one acting in a mode that is completely self-serving. One who is not open to approaching the opposing view, even though there is much to be gained from knowing both sides, as this is wholeness, completeness, true wisdom. I have been guilty of the childlike stance to want it "my way" at times. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted May 31, 2010 11:01 AM
You know the paradox. Mermaid,is that you must have a strong sense of self to be real and vulnerable.
Ami
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