posted June 08, 2010 05:29 PM         

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Nine, long story short, her uncle Edward abdicated. If he hadn't stepped aside, a male from his line would be on the throne today.

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As far as love, one can never see inside the doors of a marriage - however, there are several scandalous and important aspects to their marriage that would raise all of your eyebrows.

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Oh, how you tease us. Well he is a Gemini (a talker) so I'm sure stories abound. One story I read is of how he complained to friends that HM was insatiable, and won't leave him a moments rest. This was way in the beginning of their marriage.

posted June 08, 2010 09:55 PM         

My Moon Neptune conjunction is in the 3rd house and is in exact opposition to my Sun in the 9th house.

I feel that my thoughts are too much sometimes. I feel good when I am indulging in heavy conversation whilst being intoxicated and/or high. Sorry to be so blunt, but it is kinda true. I like people who can read my mind. I don't have patience for people who are too touchy with me and I don't like expressing my feelings to people. They should already know how I feel. By the way, this conjunction is in Capricorn, it makes me very hard on myself but I do have wisdom to spare. : )

I have stelliums in the 3rd and 9th houses. I started to meditate about this because I'm getting better at astrology. I see that my life is characterized by my childhood being unhappy (3rd house) so this has made me want to break away from that by moving toward 9th house activities. This is especially true because I'm very involved in higher education and that is what gave me the confidence to break free.

posted June 09, 2010 03:32 AM         

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-This marriage has been notorious for some very unhappy ups and downs. Prince Phillip was very bitter toward Elizabeth because she refused to appoint him the title "Prince Consort" which would give him access to a whole lot more power than he had. In essence it would have given him "kingly" duties and power. Such was the case with Queen Victoria's husband Prince Albert
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Sorry to write over there about Phillip and "Prince Consort".
Elizabeth and Victoria have chosen their husbands. Queen Victoria was 20 years old and Prince Albert 17 years old, when she proposed marriage. They were cousins (almost incest) but she loved him deeply.

Because of my words over there I was attacked, like I am some kind of thief or liar. I don't care who is what, for me counts only Synastry between two people. I am not here to argue (I have steady pains, 2/3 of my life: ethmoidal sinusitis and neuralgias) but to enjoy in discussing Love Charts. It is some kind of medicine for me. I can discuss also about suicide and death, if somebody wants (Medical Astrology).

posted June 09, 2010 04:38 AM         

There is always one and the same person.
I think there must be very bad Synastry between me and that person, even if we don't know each other.

Both of you two are very kind.

About suicide: I was member of the Forum, where are more languages (English has most members) and one female member posted Natal Chart from her sister that committed suicide. She had question:
Can you explain why my sister has committed suicide?
I was between the first to explain. I did it on my way; step by step; what aspects and the houses were important.
After that other female member wrote to me, that such a things are not allowed to write like I did, because many people read that Forum. She was really mean.
After all, the sister posted the Chart wrote to me PM: I don't have to worry about anything. She has posted the Chart and she has asked, why?

Kind regards to both,

posted June 18, 2010 10:02 AM         

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There is always one and the same person.

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Hmmm, not exactly, I think you are a troll.

posted June 21, 2010 03:46 AM         

Here is something new about 7th house and the rulers: the Moon, ruler of 7th in 7th (from both) is in 7th. Double Moon-Neptune conjunction in both 7th houses is also something new. I have never seen that. How to explain that I am not sure.

posted June 21, 2010 06:03 AM         

- both have a Leo Moon in 7th house
- both have Capricorn ASC
both have their IC in Taurus
- which means that 3 of the 4 planets / angles, that I consider to be the "core-personality" are in the same sign. This is very interesting.

- both have Mars in Air
- his ASC ruler is in 8th house, her ASC-ruler is in Scorpio

they also have both Pluto in 6th, Uranus in 2nd and their 2nd ruler in Leo in 7th.
This is because both have ASC in Capricorn, and the ASC determines in what houses the planets fall, and since these are generational planets, they occupy the same houses for them. But that is ONLY because they have the same ASC.

- both Sun-dispositors are in watersigns; even though their Sun-signs are not compatible per se, this might help a certain subtle understanding, even though the contrast between his wandering, contactoriented Gemini Self and her ambitious, reserved Capricorn-Self will still be evident.

- both Mars - dispositors are in watersigns; this is interesting as both their Marses are in Air signs; there seems to be a bit more to their Marses than meets the eye.

- he has Sun-Saturn square, she has Sun in Capricorn
- he has ASC-Jupiter tirne, she has Jupiter in 1st house
- he has Venus sextile Pluto, she has the trine between these planets.

There are some natal configurations, too, that could indicate a possible attraction; but they are far less than those indicating similiarity:

- his Sun dispositor is in Cancer - her Sun is in Capricorn AND her Moon-dispositor is in Capricorn.
this is a polar connection in respect to their Selves over the Cancer - Capricorn axis.
There is also a double polarity of Sun/(Moon and Cancer / Capricorn over his SUNdisp in CANCER, and her MOONdisp in CAPRICORN; since this is a double polarity it could be TOO much though.
Maybe she thinks him too moody and even whiney and he could be fed up at times with all that responsibility that she has and that he is forced to have through her, too.

- he has Venus in Taurus in 3 - she has mars Dispositor in Scorpio in 9
this could actually relate to a subtle sexual attraction.

- his Mars in air - her Venusdisp in Air
his Mars disp in water - her Venus in Water
this might enhance an erotic understanding, too, especially since it is mutual. But of course that is all just very subtle, so it depends on the actual aspects in their synastry.

- his Venus trines Jupiter - her Mars conjunct Jupiter
would confirm this further.

posted June 21, 2010 06:31 AM         

Out of topic:

I won't repeat what all you wrote here and all is very true, but I want to give you one advice:
Why don't you collect all you wrote here and in other Forums (about Synastry + Charts) and write a book about Synastry?

I had in one Forum female PM friend from Brazil: she wrote the book about Synastry in Portuguese (in the Forum she was by French and Portuguese language).
I am sure, you are better than her.

I think simple; it is pity for you, not to do that.

posted June 21, 2010 09:09 AM         

Actually I was thinking about trying to recollect some of the things I wrote here and write it all together for me. And maybe if that is done and I have found a good form to put it in, I will publish it.

aCtually I have looked into their synastry a little bit further.
What got my attention was the fact that they have little actual aspects between the core planets / angles, and those they have are mainly quinkunx, which is not so dreamy.
BUT his Sun-Moon-sextile makes a YOD with her ASC, and all within very tight orb.
The big three all together in a planetary configuration!
The Yod certainly is not the easiest aspect pattern, it demands much adjustment, especially in their case as there are two synastric quinkunxes, but it seems to be a very binding pattern, also.

The next thing I noticed,w hen I analysed them with my category system is, that there are big differences between the frequency of aspects and their rating they have. She has much higher results in the single categories, while he has fewer aspects in most categories. This could mean that she is more invested in this than he is.
They have an extremely high score in "Bonding", which is almost only due to her, which could mean she feels extremely bonded and tries to keep them together, more than he does.
On the other hand, even though there are many weak areas, both have a high score in Closeness. This is not the same as being passionately in love with each other, but it certainly helps longevity a lot.

Even though there are only few aspects between personal planets and angles, her Mars is trine his Sun and opposing his Moon, and her Venus is exactly sextile his ASC. Her Cupido is exactly conjunct his ASC. That makes me think that it was her who was the most attracted.
They also have a Cupido-Psyche-opposition (his Psyche, her Cupido), which is a soulmate pairing after all.
Plus they have an exact Amor-Juno-quinkunx (I have found the Amor-Juno link so often, it`s amazing), of course being a quinkunx it is probably difficult to reach and keep a balance.

The question is what does he get from that relationship?
There is so little emotional or romantic investment from his side.

Well, her pluto is exact conjunct his Psyche - that might be a powerful intuitive bond, even though Psyche could get overwhelmed.
Also her Pluto is conjunct his DESC, and Pluto rules her MC, so basically her 10th house ruler is conjunct his DESC plus her 10th house ruler is conjunct his 5th house ruler.
So both of his "love-areas" in the chart are heavily triggered by her powerful 10th house ruler - he may be pulled especially by her public image and her social status. On the other hand it could also means that she brings great stability to his relationships (with her having Sun and ASC in Capricorn that seems likely).

The Moon-Neptune-conjunctions you mentioned are of course very significant, especially since Moon also rules the 7th house of both. So definitely relationship oriented. Neptune rules the 2nd house for both, so the underlying purpose of having a relationship could lie in the 2nd house, a hope to find material and personal security. Again the need for a stable frame is highlighted for both of them.

Also, the ruler of his 7th house is squared by her ASC-ruler; this is probably not easy, but in the beginning it might have felt like an insatiable sexual attraction (at least on one side) with the compelling urge to be together. Over time the sexual tension could have become personal friction though.
Besides the planets who make that square are his Moon and her Saturn, between fixed signs. Ouch. I am sure they often lock horns and their arguments could be very painful (even though not necessarily loud) and hurting both of them personally, especially his pride (his Moon is in Leo), and maybe he sometimes feels smothered by her Saturn in Scorpio.