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bonadea33
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posted June 07, 2010 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Here is Synastry Chart between English Queen Elizabath and Prince Phillip (I was glad, to have finally his birth time).

Elizabeth met her future husband, Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark, in 1934 and 1937 After another meeting at the Royal Naval College in Dartmouth in July 1939, Elizabeth – though only 13 years old – fell in love with Philip, and they began to exchange letters.They married on 20 November 1947. The couple are second cousins once removed through King Christian IX of Denmark and third cousins through Queen Victoria (text from Wikipedia).

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posted June 07, 2010 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
I have done Synastry without any Asteroid.

What is here so special?

They have the same ASC. People with the same ASC must be something in the Past life (my case, I have the same ASC degree with my Karma - husband from the Past life). They also think similar.

Ruler of his ASC, Saturn in trine with her ASC: that is sign of staying together until the end.
Ruler of her ASC, Saturn has only challenged aspects: the proof that Saturn is not always most important fact.
Here is double Moon-Neptune conjunction in both 7th houses (7th house is most important in the Synastry - in many Synastry Charts).
They have double Venus-POF conjunction - they are happy together.
Ruler of her Sun, Venus has sextile with his ASC - also shows longevity of the relationship.
Both Mars are in trine - there must be always "something in the air" between them two.

Thank you for comments,

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posted June 07, 2010 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Wow both their DC ruler moon in house 7. MC ruler pluto conj each other. I cant see if there are a DW venus pluto in orb but if it's very interesting because MC/IC rules venus/pluto

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posted June 07, 2010 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
DW Moon conjunct Neptune is pretty interesting....with the Moon being the DC ruler for both.

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posted June 07, 2010 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
they had mercury square mercury, but were able to 'work'

(i remembered a topic going into the probability that without mercury in working aspect, it can't last or function well)

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posted June 07, 2010 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
They have both their nodes in SQUARE ASPECT!


Everyone makes out this isn't so great well I guess this synastry proves the square isn't bad at all.

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posted June 07, 2010 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
OMG,

I am very bad mathematics.
Here are 71 years and not 41 years. Where are my eyes? I thought it might be too little but didn't think much about that.

71 years in love with one and only one person!!!
I wonder what couple in the world is in Guinness book of the records.

B.

p.s. Big sorry for the mistake!

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posted June 07, 2010 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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71 years in love with one and only one person!!!
I wonder what couple in the world is in Guinness book of the records.

LOL that is hilarious

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posted June 07, 2010 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message
Im not altogether too sure if this would be a good example of synastry.....If these two weren't still in love chances are that they would still be together anyway because splitting up would be a huge scandal lol.

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posted June 07, 2010 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL!!!

True and they are one big huge scandal anyway, and that's not including the fact that she shouldn't even be Queen!

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posted June 07, 2010 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
How do you know they were happy and still in love?

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posted June 07, 2010 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
How do you know they weren't miserable and had a public marriage whilst being in love with other people?

"hypothetically speaking"

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posted June 07, 2010 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Sigh, it's so hard to tell with any kind of 'celebrity' couple if they are 'in love'. That's why I take any kind of celebrity synastry with a very large helping of salt, because you just don't know.
Esp back in a time when people didn't marry out of love in the first place, but for family connections, politics, social standing, etc.
People barely divorced back then - it was considered bad for one's reputation even for people who weren't well-known - imagine further pressure for those who were always in the public eye!

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posted June 07, 2010 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
They often have their true loves as people other than their spouses from what I have read.


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posted June 07, 2010 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Im not altogether too sure if this would be a good example of synastry.....If these two weren't still in love chances are that they would still be together anyway because splitting up would be a huge scandal lol.


Good point, who knows if they can even stand eachother? haha Maybe we can take a guess by looking at the synastry.

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posted June 07, 2010 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
The midheaven would probably be a good indication of that since to an extent it talks about public image. In fact, it might be reflected in the MC of a composite. My ex and I had a knock-out MC with all kinds of lovey-dovey crap going on, and people were shocked we had problems since we always looked all 'perfect' together. Interestingly, we always were concerned with how people saw our relationship as a couple, even tho separately neither of us cared what people thought in general.
Public image was very important.

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posted June 07, 2010 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
Not a good example of a "lasting love" if such a thing exist. Because with such unions Astrologers are deeply involved, so the union isn't always made out of "free will". However, their synastry for long term compatibility is excellent. Asc conjunct Asc as well as Moon conjunct Moon.

Another thing I like to look at is the Lifepath & birth number rulers. I look for conjunctions and trines in either, and I don't like crisscrossing. I compare Lifepath ruler to Lifepath ruler and birth # ruler to birth # ruler. Often with celebrity couples I see a cojunction in the brith # rulers, eg; Bill & Hillary, Michael J Fox and his wife.

The Queen & Prince Philip has the same Lifepath arrangement as Diana & Charles, 7 & 2 respectively. However while the Queen and Prince Philip has Lifepath rulers conjunct in Leo, Diana & Charles had an opposition across the Taurus/Scorpio axis...that and moon square moon.

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True and they are one big huge scandal anyway, and that's not including the fact that she shouldn't even be Queen!

Who then???

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Benedict Moon*
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posted June 07, 2010 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
I think looking at things like their personal planets (luminaries in particular) and their relevant houses would be better. MC aspects would only indicate to me whether they looked good together in public...LOL. It would say nothing about how they felt about eachother behind closed doors.


Without even getting into a useless argument about arranged marriages, I do agree that alot of their synastry looks really good. I can't ignore the tightly orbed DW Moon/Neptune conjunction they share in both their 7th houses. If they don't love eachother, they have to atleast like eachother enough IMO.

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posted June 07, 2010 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, the Moon/Neptune conjunction is crazy, right? Very uncanny.

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posted June 08, 2010 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
This marriage has been notorious for some very unhappy ups and downs. Prince Phillip was very bitter toward Elizabeth because she refused to appoint him the title "Prince Consort" which would give him access to a whole lot more power than he had. In essence it would have given him "kingly" duties and power. Such was the case with Queen Victoria's husband Prince Albert.

It would be a grand mistake to paint this marriage as a great romance. At one point in their marriage Prince Phillip cheated on her semi-publically, meaning that she was quite aware of the situation and very heartbroken by it, but as was the tradition, royals (especially the queen) did not divorce.

This synastry would be a good example of a marriage forced to endure as were many marriages of all generations up until around the 60's and 70's when divorce rates began to skyrocket because people were learning more about relationships and their own individuality.

I'm not saying that love did not or does not exist between Elizabeth and Phillip, I'm saying that they are from a very different generation.

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posted June 08, 2010 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
Who cares about that moon Neptune dw. It's badly aspected making their marriage suffer from disillusion. I have moon conjunct Neptune, take it from me.

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posted June 08, 2010 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
My comments:

Who cares about Moon and Neptune? Anybody, who cares about planets in 7th house, in the Synastry!.
Beside that ruler of 7th (the Moon) in 7th house means something. Any planet rules the house is in that house, means a lot.
Like: ruler of 2nd in 2nd (with good aspects): there will be money for sure! No worries about money.

Here: Elizabeth fell in love with Phillip. It wasn't arranged marriage, like she wanted to do for her children. She is Taurus Sun and if Taurus finds somebody right (must be sure about that) he stays with that person.
Here depends again from Ascendant. She is Ascendant Capricorn, double earth: after choosing the right man, there is not much to look around. Taurus is too lazy to do that.
He is Gemini, the air. I don't know what he is doing, but if he does something hidden, she knows for that.
To be Prince Consort: what for should he be that? He has nice life without so many obligations (Here I remember Elizabeth I: she didn’t marry because was afraid that the husband could be on her way).

This Synastry is not the perfect one, but here is something really new: double Moon-Neptune conjunction in 7th house of both.
The Moon - feelings
Neptune - illusions, imaginations.

B.

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posted June 08, 2010 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Well Geocosmic tells at least a tenth of the true story behind these two. It's not my place to divulge the rest, suffice to say that their marriage is a business deal commitment and a great friendship.

As far as love, one can never see inside the doors of a marriage - however, there are several scandalous and important aspects to their marriage that would raise all of your eyebrows.

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posted June 08, 2010 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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I have moon conjunct Neptune, take it from me

Rasperri

Can you please explain how this aspect effects you?
I am trying to understand Neptune better.
Thanks so much,

Ami

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posted June 08, 2010 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat Face     Edit/Delete Message
Nine, long story short, her uncle Edward abdicated. If he hadn't stepped aside, a male from his line would be on the throne today.

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