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teasel
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posted June 09, 2010 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
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The fact that so many people ARE that way makes my faith in humanity die a little more each day.

I know what you mean.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted June 09, 2010 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
I've only known one cancer who blatantly couldn't control themselves and they had a partying Sag Moon. Why do people say, 'I don't believe signs have anything to do with it, but....'? Kind of defeats the purpose of your statement.

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amowls*
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posted June 09, 2010 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
My boyfriend has a Cancer stellium and he takes cheating super seriously. He could never do it.

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Coffee
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posted June 09, 2010 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe something need to be said about modality. Jonathan Cainer did a good guide (as only he can do) to all of them, based on an attraction level.

Cardinal signs seem like the type who are into the chase. They like to get things started, but may need help in following through, or keeping the flame burning. Ideal single person, or 'dater'

Mutuable signs are the type who go with the flow. More of an open relationship focus. These people tend to go with whatever is in front of them. Partner says they want to be with just them, or even see other people - very much like a "whatever" aspect. Go with whatever. Swingers/open relationship.

Fixed signs are the ones who generally stick
with whoever/whatever and see it through. Easy enough that one. Committed relationship.


I guess you can look at a persons personality, though looking at a persons 7th will give more indication of what they expect in a relationship.

Too easy to say someone is a cheater because they don't have a fixed sign on the DC, but this is very useful guide to see what a person really wants from a relationship. The sign on the outside of cusp 7 is what they consciously want, and the ruling planet of the 7th placement by sign will show what the unconscious desire is, as such.

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Ami Ann
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posted June 09, 2010 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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The sign on the outside of cusp 7 is what they consciously want, and the ruling planet of the 7th placement by sign will show what the unconscious desire is

I have a question, Coffee, if I could, please.
I have Taurus on the 7th house cusp with Venus in the 7th.
What would this mean?

Thanks so much,
Ami

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Coffee
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posted June 09, 2010 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Outside, Taurus seems stable and fixed. Inside, with the Venus placed in Taurus, same.

Did you have a follow up or trick question?

Working on the ASC side, that combination is like saying: what you see is what you get.

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Coffee
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posted June 09, 2010 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
delete please

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Ami Ann
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posted June 09, 2010 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
It is not a trick question. I am a newbie .

Ami

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meta_4
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posted June 09, 2010 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting replies. Sorry, I tried to respond yesterday but was told LL was out of service, or some poppycock!

Anywho, scrolling through the charts of my male friends- of whom I have a lot- the big cheaters have Venus in the 8th and Venus in the 12th. No, no, no! I am not saying anyone who has these placements (or Venus in Scorpio/Pisces) is a big ol' cheater.

Guy one needs sexual activity to feel whole. Kinda sad really. I can empathize to a certain degree, but it's actually a burden for him. He can really care for a girl, but if she can't feed his appetite he lurks elsewhere.

Boy two is Affair Man. One after the other, almost. He's very monogamous, but almost every relationship he's had he has ended in order to start another. "Grass is greener on the other side" syndrome. Tsk tsk.

I will admit that I have left one relationship because I've fallen in love with someone else. That's cheating in a way- emotionally.

And I've also tried to pursue a married man, which is definitely selfish and some form of cheating. (But a handy lesson to learn!)

I'm also not trusted by the girlfriends of my guy friends. The general consensus seems to be that I will try to "steal their man." I attribute this to Juno being conjunct my ASC.

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fiona
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posted June 10, 2010 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiona     Edit/Delete Message
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The sign on the outside of cusp 7 is what they consciously want, and the ruling planet of the 7th placement by sign will show what the unconscious desire is

Hi Coffee, what can you say about Aries being on the cusp of the 7th house, and Mars in Gemini being in the 9th house?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted June 10, 2010 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Meta, my mom has Juno AND Lilith conj her ascendant exactly. She had the reverse problem of women trying to steal her husbands lol. It happened with her 1st and 2nd ones. With her 3rd it has not been a big problem, but I think this is because she was 35 by then and I'm thinking the level of stupidity starts to die down a little by your mid-30's....slightly lol. But generally yes, women always loved my mother's husbands. And they've always loved my men too , though I do not have the same placements (might just be some good old-fashioned female family pattern LOL)

Also, I can relate with something else - when I was a lot younger, just about every female I knew would not let me within 5 feet of her boyfriend without seething looks. They were afraid I would steal them. It made me feel like hell, but part of it was because my sexual energy was not easy to conceal. I never did anything, but I think I did exude something which made me seem like I would steal a guy, even though that is not my style at all. I am really respectful. But I was never apologetic for my energy, didn't try to hide it, which I think was partially the problem. I also LOVE attention, and while I keep that in check now when it comes to other women's men, I did not keep it in check as much when I was younger. My attitude was, WHATEVER. ARE YOU THAT INSECURE?
But then you realize there are women well into their 30s and 40's and 50's who are still like this and who go from being cute to being annoying (by 30-something, that attitude can be annoying if it's not tempered with compassion).

I never was the kind to flirt with another girl's boyfriend though. My sexual energy wasn't personal, if that makes any sense lol

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comica23
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posted June 10, 2010 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Cheating is when you seem to be into a monogamous relationship with someone (who seems to be into a monogamous relationship), and then get involved with others physically/emotionally. Cheating is when you break the "agreements" in a relationship. These "agreements" might not always be obvious, but usually, the moment we get involved with someone, they are kinda implied (like if someone shows that they are interested in a monogamous relationship, and you get involved with them).

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Aries Venus, Moon and BML in the 8th.

But well, sometimes, we might fall in love with someone else, and I think that hurting someone would be inevitable. I'm not sure if I'd consider this cheating, it would depend on the person's decisions and actions.

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belgz
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posted June 10, 2010 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not that against cheating.. depends on circumstances.

I would never do it if i was completely committed or married.

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Ami Ann
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posted June 10, 2010 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
MVM
I want to ask you a question about Cancer males.
IQ said something about a Cancer male on a thread a while back. He said that unless the Cancer male had fire--he could be someone to watch out for.IQ said they could be manipulative and hard to have in a relationship.
Please explain your impressions of Cancer males if you could.

Thanks very much,

Ami

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