posted June 11, 2010 04:27 PM         

No one leaves this life without suffering or feeling loneliness. NO ONE!

My opinion in this day and age is that we have evolved to the point where we have discovered that depression is a serious illness and by the time someone gets to the point where they kill themselves, it is result of the advancement of the disease not being treated properly or not being treated at all.

As human beings there seems to be a rich tradition of continuing to abuse victims and blame victims. That whole "spiritual punishment for suicide" thing feels like an extension of that. If we are constantly learning that God/Universe/Higher Power is love and compassion, then where is the compassion for the person who is in so much pain that they would choose death over life. I think that compassion and understanding is what would be received on the otherside, not looking forward to more punishment.

Perhaps a person will move into another life where they will come to the same assignments but from a different angle and with a different kind of innate wisdom in order to handle the same difficult situations. After all, difficulties are necessary for life and soul development. We need rock in the soil of our life to push off of to reach the highest heights, to reach the Sun like flowers do.

posted June 11, 2010 10:07 PM         

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Hi amowls*,

It looks like most of the people, Astro-twins or really twins have ASC Pisces and ASC Aquarius. Very strange!

B.

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Oh actually we're both Gem Rising but our MCs are in Pisces/Aquarius

His MC is actually at 29 Aqua, critical degree and his MC ruler Uranus is conjunct Saturn and both are at 29 Sag, another critical degree.

posted June 12, 2010 02:53 AM         

You wrote:
---Your comment about suicide has been repeated millions of times in esoteric and religious circles for centuries.----

Now I will write million and one time about suicide. After that will leave it.

I don't remember to be member of some religious circle, because religion is really the last on my list.
Maybe you think my reading books about Popes? They didn't commit any suicide.

Here is the link about my pains. Read carefully (if you want) and then give some comment. It is very rare disease, very painful and very few people have it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atypical_trigeminal_neuralgia

posted June 12, 2010 03:07 AM         

When I first looked for the list of famous people committing suicide, there was Dr. Sigmund Freud (I am repeating myself again). I didn't believe in that and have read the biography about him to see, how he died. His friend gave him "help" to die.
http://reocities.com/Eureka/promenade/1919/euthanasia.html

There was wife of ex German politician: because of some also rare disease, terrible pains and no help from medicine, she committed suicide.

posted June 12, 2010 03:45 AM         

First time I took 24 pills because I had pains all over my head and had nothing to help me. I didn't know then (less than 24 years old) that I could die on that way. My wish was to get asleep. Only then I have no pains. I came from the Factory during pause for the lunch and took the pills. There was nobody in apartment house, but I was found and rescued. I was in a deep sleep, 48 hours and didn't see anything white or green or whatever.
Two months ago, I was visiting man, who was working over 40 years as a medical doctor. He reads regularly Bible (I don't know what is there so interesting to read over and over again, the same). He told me: there is no soul staying alive. When we die, all dies. Body and soul! I didn't want to argue with him as I can't prove the opposite.

In April 2004 I was in the Hospital for medical research. I had CT, blood tests and MRI. I was there 10 days. In December 2003 I took the pills (in neighbour country) and had difficulty to come out of the Hospital. For doctors there all people have depression and should stay at least one month.
During my stay in the Hospital, 2004 I was visiting social worker. She told me: do you know, how many people would cry if you do “that”? I was shocking about her words. I don't want anybody to cry because of me.
The same was here where my female friend about one month ago (half as old as I am) told me: don't be selfish and think about death; think about us who love you.
I would understand my sisters to think so (they have no idea about my thoughts and really situation, as we live in different countries).

Reading books about Popes, some of them feeling there was coming their end, they went to summer residence and stayed there alone until death.
The same case is with monks in temples: they know when death will come; they close themselves in some temple and wait for death. That is right, so.

When there is the time coming do die, the best is to be alone, somewhere where is nobody and don’t want to see anybody crying because of me.

Venus in 8th!