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bonadea33
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posted June 10, 2010 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
I have here two persons born the same day, month and year and almost the same hour.
One was born in USA, other in Europe.

1st Natal Chart:

2nd Natal Chart:

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bonadea33
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posted June 10, 2010 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
The 1st person: D.F. (male) was an American author of novels, essays, and short stories, and a professor at Pomona College in Claremont, California. He was widely known for his 1996 novel Infinite Jest, which Time included in its All-Time 100 Greatest Novels list.

D.F. committed suicide by hanging himself on September 12, 2008 (in California) as confirmed by the October 27, 2008 autopsy report.

2nd person is my ex female colleague and she is working long time in tourism. She is ok. She was my good friend. She has no children, is not married and lives long time with one man who was friend of mine, to (only friend). I have called two days ago my other ex female colleague (born 1962, Pisces) and she told me, everybody is ok, there.

Here comes the explanation from Lily that people with Jupiter in the 1st can be rescued, when other die (like the massive murder in Scottish school some years ago). There is a list, who have survived and why.

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p.s. This case is more for Medical Astrology.

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posted June 10, 2010 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
This is odd, I actually do remember reading an astro-analysis of that shooting, and the students involved, the astrologer had charts for students, and what struck me about what they mentioned was that the children targeted actually had major points in their chart that made them "stand out" to the shooter while the others blended in, seemed strange at the time, but it might really have been the kid who was shot was the one who caught his eyes at the time (irrespective of synastry just based on the child's natal), this was strange to me, because I would think a shooter would just walk in and start shooting, with no thought as to where they would hit.

Makes me wish I had everything holed up in h12 with Virgo Asc.

I'll come back to the rest later.

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posted June 10, 2010 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I had an astro twin who committed suicide a few years ago (this was during a very very rough transit and personally it was a very difficult time in my life). The only differences in our charts were our MCs (his Aqua, mine Pisces) and my Pluto in my 5th while his was in his 6th.

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posted June 10, 2010 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
It is pretty often that just Pisces and Aquarius (AC) have different destinies.

I was working for few months in the factory for chocolate (we didn't have snow and there was nothing to do). There was one woman that had really twin sister. They were born so, that one was Aquarius ASC and other was Pisces ASC. The Pisces ASC was married and had two children; the Aquarius ASC was single, had no children and was some kind of nurse for sister's children.
That was very strange to me. Today I see, how big difference is between romantic Pisces and freedom loved Aquarius.

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posted June 10, 2010 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Bonadea, this is off topic to your thread but I just wanted to say that I still have that interpretation of your chart and saved it so I could give it to you at a later date when the internet or this site started working properly again. Now that you've popped up again, I would most like to give it to you like I intended to before because I really appreciate you helping me find the charts of Jung and Freud and would like to show how grateful I am

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posted June 10, 2010 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Bonadea, nice to see some proper astrology on here
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I will comment in a while, just thought you might want to look at these two charts. Passing a message on, not wanting to derail the thread.

Ayrton Senna, 21st March 1960 (Died 1st May 1994)
Roland Ratzenburger, 4th July 1960 (Died 30th April 1994)

Both formula 1 drivers born few months apart and died within a day of each other.

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posted June 10, 2010 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Coffee, that is actually quite interesting..it reminded me of Peter Brock, the best car racing driver in the world who died from smashing full speed into a tree.

How ironic is that? It happened the same time Steve Irwin in the same way, doing what he's known and loved for.

It'd be interesting to see the charts of the 2 car racing drivers (sorry, but I am soo not into the actual sport, if you can call it that) and the one of Peter Brock and see if there are any similarities between the 3.

Apologies, I like brainstorming and projects hahaha

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bonadea33
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posted June 10, 2010 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Diablo,

Very nice from you to interpret my Charts. I have deleted all Charts, but you have found them. You were quick.
Hope, there is nothing really bad because I have enough of all bad and negative.
If you can, send them per my email address, please.

Regards,
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Diablo
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posted June 10, 2010 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Would be more than happy to. I had a go when you put them up with your SR and other returns but took them back down. I think i started on the natal.

what's your email address?

you were having a few health problems and were wanting to start a medical astrology blog based on your own experiences..from what I saw I think that could possibly be a good idea

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Ami Ann
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posted June 10, 2010 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Boneada
Could I have your e mail address or give you mine.
I have a personal question to ask you--with your expertise.

Ami

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bonadea33
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posted June 10, 2010 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Here are both Charts.
Senna had birth time, and Ratzenburger didn't.

Ayrton Senna, Natal+T+SP:

Roland Ratzenburger, the same (12:00 noon):

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bonadea33
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posted June 10, 2010 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message

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bonadea33
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posted June 10, 2010 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
I must say that to get any birth data's from Formula 1 drivers is more difficult than to win by Lottery.
There are no data's from:

Jenson Button - I like him
Fernando Alonso - the same
Mark Weber - the same
Nico Rosberg - the same.

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posted June 10, 2010 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Feel free to delete your email for privacy reasons

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Ami Ann
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posted June 10, 2010 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you (((B)))
I will be in touch

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bonadea33
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posted June 10, 2010 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Diablo and Ami Ann,

Thank you both for your kindness.

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bonadea33
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posted June 10, 2010 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
I was busy to find my astro-twins, by Astrotheme. It looks like in July people are doing something else than producing children.

My Natal Chart: http://tinypic.com/r/34qvhxz/6

Italian writer, female: http://tinypic.com/r/s2xwyu/6

French politician, male: http://tinypic.com/r/ranjht/6

I like Natal Charts, where are no birth times, just the Chart.

B.

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posted June 10, 2010 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a triplet, and we all have the same natal (no further questions on that please) plenty of similarities and patterns in our lives, but enough to keep us all separate and unique, or so we like to think.

The two charts you posted are similar in every respect apart from the AC/DC. Makes a whole lot of difference! Whereas one person has a solar return which means partner issues (Leo on 7th) - the other person has a solar return to mean work issues (Leo on 6th)

Definitely something for me to study, though I never trust many deaths, especially celebrity ones. Birth times too, though I guess some won't mind revealing.

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posted June 10, 2010 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
This is an interesting topic but it needs to go deeper than just one person having Jupiter in the 1st House being rescued and the other person not. There are other factors involved and lifetime experiences.

For example, what were the astrological transits, progressions, environmental issues affecting each of these people at that point in time? What were the astrological patterns in play when the author killed himself?

House Rulerships play a huge role in this astro-twin scenario. Did the author leave a suicide note? Was he having serious health issues and decide to euthanize himself? These kinds of things would show up starkly if the astrological patterns were reviewed at the time of his death and then compare the same patterns occuring in the chart of your female friend.

I have an astro-twin that I went to school with in 2nd and 3rd grade. She was born 30 miles north of me and a 34 minutes after me. The House overlay of our charts changed enough to have the charts say completely different things. For one thing, she was and is incredibly wealthy, she went on to become a great attorney. This all shows up in her chart because of the houses. With my chart, my 9th House is incredibly stressed because of how Saturn affects my 9th House ruler. I never finished any kind of higher education (9th house is higher education, law and religion), and I was never taught any kind of religious philosophy or doctrine by my parents so I never formed any solid image of what God was/is or should be. My astro-twin actively practices Judaism.

Long story short, our lives are completely different because of a half our time change and a slight latitude change, but we both have Gemini Rising and Aquarius Midheaven, just not the same degrees.

Oh, she's married with children, I am not.

I won't post the charts because I'm very private with my Sun in the 12th House. If she knew about this, she'd probably post her chart because it's in the 11th House.

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posted June 10, 2010 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
I have an astro twin who posts here from time to time! Her username is Geemeeni and she's older than me by a few hours.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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posted June 10, 2010 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
IQ is kind of like my astro twin but i want an astro twin to do research on!

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bonadea33
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posted June 11, 2010 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Here is the story about the first person.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Foster_Wallace -

About Charts from him and my friend: I didn't see that ruler of his ASC, Neptune is in 8th house; ruler of her ASC is Uranus in 7th. For her is very right: she had lots of boyfriends and relationships all the time. She was never alone. 7th and 8th house are totally different houses.
Beside that they weren't together in some accident, where one was killed and other has survived.
About Jupiter in the 1st: I have Jupiter in the 1st house and was found and rescued when I was 23 years and 9 months old. I could die then, but didn't. My Venus, ruler of my 1st and 8th in 8th, very close to Algol could kill me, but didn't. Maybe it was my Jupiter, my angel guardian, I am not sure.
About massacre in Scotland and other schools when some idiot comes and starts shooting all around: he kills many people, but he can't kill all of them. Some of them run away through the window or find some way to rescue them. In that case Astrologer study: why somebody was rescued and somebody not.

B.

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posted June 11, 2010 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Hi GV,

The two people had different ASC and the rulers of ASC in different houses. As I wrote over there for her was always important to be admired from men: ruler of her ASC, Uranus in 7th and ruler of 7th, Sun in the 1st. She had enough of them. She and her partner now, they are born for each other. Both had many relationships, before.

When you read the link, you will see that he had depressions over 20 years. As I know her, she wasn't depressed.

Here are Astro-twins. I knew sisters, twins. One was ASC Aquarius, single, no children and was nurse of her twin sister’s children. Twin sister is ASC Pisces. When she told me that (more years ago), I didn’t believe. Later, studying Pisces women and Aquarius women: I have see that they are totally different people.
Pisces is romantic and needs love; Aquarius loves freedom or free relationship.

Hi amowls*,

It looks like most of the people, Astro-twins or really twins have ASC Pisces and ASC Aquarius. Very strange!

B.

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bonadea33
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posted June 11, 2010 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Here one stupid comment (or, maybe not):

If there is really reincarnation, this man is going to suffer in the next life, like I do in this life.

I was hanging myself in Past life and by Regression had the same pains (even worse) as I have them every day! Believe me!

B.

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