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Spanky Butler
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posted June 12, 2010 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
I'd appreciate some help from anyone who can read the chart.


I'm weighing up 2 options as far as career/life options goes & I'm torn between taking up an Arts Administration course or chucking it all in to become a foster carer.

I'm grateful for any insight you may have because all I feel is confused to the extreme.

I would add that I'm under a deadline to take up the study in regards to additional funding that is available if I enrole before June 30.

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starkiss1
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posted June 12, 2010 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Spanky, I am just looking at your top 3.

Libra Sun (Venus)
Sag Moon(education)
Pisc Asc (arts)

Pisces produced a lot of artists, probably more then any other sign.

If you ask me, it's arts for you.

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 12, 2010 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Starky


At present I feel that I can't see the forest for all the bleeding trees

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vapor-lash
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posted June 12, 2010 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
hmmmm

honestly Spanksee....

I don't like either.

How 'bout air hostess?

(edit: with air hostess - you nail just about everything.. The "host" factor - Moon conjunct MC. The "traveling" factor - MC in Sagittarius. The "flying across the world" factor - MC ruler in the 11th house.)

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Ok - Ok - If I have to choose one of yours.. I'd go with art administration! I agree with starkiss on the Pisces AC. My younger cousin has this AC and she loves art!

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 12, 2010 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
I lol so hard @ your choice of career for me Ms Vapor. I can only wear a polite smile for so long before I'm telling someone to sod off

Then there's the other factor - I don't know if you've seen this but I've noted that many a plane just falls from the sky or bursts into flames & I am not going to end up on the bottom of the sea or be shark food nor shall I be a burning crispy critter. I say no, no, no, no, no okay? I'm saying no.


So to check the scores so far it's Art 2 & foster care 0. Alrighty then.


I'm just gonna sit here & wait for a few more astrowizisists to stop by & put their 2 cents worth in.

Hey vapor! Did you like my new word? Gosh I'm clever

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 12, 2010 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Where is DD?

She should be here by now but she's probably got her nose up some asteroid, lol.


Oh well, it's time to lay bait.....


there we go. If that hypnotizing gaze doesn't get her then I'll be a monkey's uncle.

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DD
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posted June 12, 2010 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I ******* HATE you, you know?


I did see your thread before, but got all distracted, and just a few minutes ago I felt the urge to open it.
Sometimes I feel like a bloody puppet on a string.

And I am so not interested in anything having to do with Mr Law at the moment.


Besides I have been on a class trip until yesterday.


I am not giving any sound astrological advice. Instead I suggest that you go, lay or sit down, close your eyes and meditate a bit.
Go some months / years into the future at your jobplace. Wehre is it`? What are you doing? But don´t force the images, just let them come and pass again.
Maybe completely different options will come up.

(Usually if we are torn between two options, neither is the optimal one).

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 12, 2010 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
I love you too DD, lol.


I know it works so why wouldn't I use it?

quote:
if we are torn between two options, neither is the optimal one


I'm starting to think the same thing here.


I still have the thought that I should keep going with the pet minding business I've started. I'm such a Libran right now

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DiandraReborn25
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posted June 12, 2010 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
i know what you feel,being a libra asc.

i agree with DD.

you will always know what is your perfect-self expression by looking within.

no one knows better than you.


if you picture that perfect moment for you,and you feel that buzzling sensation of pure happiness,then you will know what is the best thing for you,when picturing that moment in your future.

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posted June 13, 2010 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SagittariusMC     Edit/Delete Message
Career options are assessed by MC any planets conjunct, where the ruler of MC is placed, it’s aspects, then 2nd house ‘how you earn your money’ and planets there, ruler of cusp and where it’s placed, then 6th house of ‘type of work you do’ any planets there and how they are aspected.

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

Money & you http://www.astrotheme.com/files/money_and_you.php
career significators http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/significators.html
Professional & Destiny http://www.astrotheme.com/files/astrology_professional_destiny.php http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/significators.html

You have cancer/moon ruling 5th house of children. Moon is conj MC suggests a few changes in career. Ruler of MC Jupiter placed in 11th house of foster, step and adopted children, ALL screams to me you should be working with children

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 13, 2010 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Diandra

I would still prefer some astro pointers in any case as I feel to emotional about this as time goes on. I'm not good with deadlines.

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 13, 2010 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Wow SagittariusMC - You just blew my socks off & the fact that you did it without sending me off to sleep with astro speak is fabulous.


Thanks heaps for the links. I'll be checking them out for sure.

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DD
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posted June 13, 2010 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Sagittarius MC about the houses and rulerships to look at.

I didn´t know though that the 11th house is the house of "foster children". Is that, because it is considered to be the house of children (5th house) of other people( on the other side of the chart - which would be the 11th house)?


MC conjunct Moon
Could be seen as a natural mother (Moon). Since it is in Sagittarius, education would play a big role.
Ruler of 5th house could mean that the career involves children.
Ruler of 5th house in 10th house often also means that people are selfemployed; they don`t like to be "directed".
This Moon squares the relationship and Self-axis, so maybe there will be tension between your relationships and freedom of selfexpression and the demands of your career?
Of course with Moon squaring ASC and DESC, it also implies that there is a conflict between your emotional needs (to care for other people, to educate, to be successful in your chosen field) and your instinctual being and relationships.

Moon opposes widely Saturn in 4th house - maybe you would feel that your own private life would suffer a bit?
Or your own private life and family keeps you from pursuing the career you feel emotionally drawn to?

With Saturn in 4th you probably value your privacy very much, with Moon on the MC it seems like you are wearking your emotions on the sleeve.


Ruler of 6 is in 7 - your work will involve other people. Since it is in Libra, I was thinking that the area of art is not a bad choice at all.


Ruler of 2nd house is Mars in Taurus in 2nd house - so you probably have to earn your own money and cannot rely on other people`s money. Financial and other security is very important for you, and you will work persistently for it.
This is a very Venusian placement. ruler of 2nd house in TAURUS and SECOND house.
Venus rules art, but I am not sure how much Taurus is related to art.


This Mars sextiles your Saturn in 4th house - so it probably would be easier to combine your working for your money and your need for privacy and a secure homelife.


I`m sorry, but I do not see a very clear theme emerging.


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Spanky Butler
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posted June 13, 2010 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
That was uncannily accurate astrological insight into my very emotional need for financial autonomy DD.

You picked up my conflicted feelings very well.


It is very true that I am torn between working with children or being in a working environment (art) that feeds my soul & working for myself because I don't want to be under authority.

I'm wondering if working with animals comes under 5th house?

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DD
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posted June 13, 2010 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I am glad that I picked up the astrological vibes well.

Animals are a matter of 6th house or Virgo, I believe. You have Vesta in that house, and Vesta signifies what we are focusing on or what we are dedicated to.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted June 13, 2010 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
there ´s another chart that migh shed some more light.

at least it did in mine too!

the MC Persona Chart.

one time GV told me that only in my natal it showed a high probability of being sucessful in the arts/fashion area,and that i could never give up of my dream.

times later i had put my MC Persona chart,and someone told me the same thing.it clearly showed the thing i love to do in Life:it was so accurate that it was even spooky.

hmm but it also showed a great hability to pshichology

which i pondered to study in 18 but never went through.

so,take a look at your MC Persona.

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 13, 2010 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Great idea Diandra.

Here's my MC persona chart. Now where would I look or should I say more importantly, what should I be looking at?


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DD
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posted June 13, 2010 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
You read that chart like a normal chart IN RELATION to the MC / career / calling.

So the ASC here would signify the instinctual aspect of your career. That which is very essentially you in terms of a career.

ASC is in Libra here - Art springs to mind instantly.
It conjuncts Moon and Uranus - quite a potent "make up" of your calling.
Moon rules 10th house and Uranus rules 5th house. That actually makes me think of children again. lol
How interesting that in your natal you have ruler of 5 in 10, and here the ruler of 5 and 10 are conjunct on the ASC!
To make a hobby your profession, is one way to read it.
Selfemployment is emphasised again, and of course independence, especially with Uranus being there.
The ruler of ASC is in 4th house, almost in 5th house - so your career would take place at home? With children? Tied to something that is close to your heart (5th house)?

MC of that chart would be the calling of your career. The ruler is Moon again, on the ASC in Libra, emphasising partnership and probably artistic enterprises, dealings with art in general. Moon also is the mother, so it highlights your caring, nurturing qualities.

The Self (Sun) of your career / calling (MC) is Sun in Sagittarius conjunct NN in 3rd house and all on the GC. Wow.
Communication is very important in your career. It is also something you will grow into (NN in 3rd house).

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DiandraReborn25
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posted June 13, 2010 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
SP

You had one of the best reading your chart-DD-so i would definately take the analysis in consideration.

it is interesting to see that once again,MC Persona Charts highlight the strong factors that appear in the regular tropical natal of the person.

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DD
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posted June 13, 2010 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Diandra.

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posted June 14, 2010 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Teaching art to children.

Do the course, and then it will naturally take you where you need to go.

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posted June 14, 2010 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with PA. The ruler of your MC is in the 11th in Aqua...I feel you may need a greater cause to work toward for the long term.

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posted June 14, 2010 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
MVM's right. What you're really seeking is a life purpose - a cause - and to be able to make a living from it.

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 14, 2010 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
wow ladies.

Thank you for the support & advice. I appreciate it.


Right now I already work in administration 1 day per week at an art & craft centre & after work I go back to the centre to assist the tutor who runs the children's art after school.

I love it & have a great bond with the kids. MVM you're very right in that I do need a worthy cause to hold my interest as far as career goes. I mean why else do we exist if not to make this earth a better place?

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DD
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posted June 14, 2010 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
PA and MVM nailed it I think.

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