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DD
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posted June 15, 2010 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra and ORBM,

thanks for your encouragement, but there really is nothing to go for.
Well except for the enjoyment of seeing him.

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posted June 15, 2010 04:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we never know till we get there.

isnt it?

years ago when i met jonnhy i also thought that there wasnt anyone out there for me...that thought bite me in the ass then.

in a very good way.!

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posted June 15, 2010 04:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is it me or that post seems a bit...odd for me to say?

i meant that in a surprisingly way,love always catch us when we think we īre "done".

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posted June 15, 2010 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And makes us feel like we are alive again.

And I liked your previous post. Very much to the point.

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posted June 15, 2010 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes but let me be the first to say that I love the new Diandra...your posts are coming from a higher and higher frequency everyday luv.....

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posted June 15, 2010 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DP...

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posted June 15, 2010 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
synastry - both ways, exact.
thanks DD

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posted June 15, 2010 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don`t thank me too soon, Lara, cause honestly I am not sure about this aspect.

maybe tapping into the Isolde character gives you both a sense of completion?
I guess we have to understand first what Isolde is about.

To me it is about loyalty and passion on the other hand. Maybe that kind of devotion and emotional engagement is very attractive to both of you.

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posted June 15, 2010 08:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orbm

you say that cause you forgot about my thread where i stated all the things that have been happening,less positive ones.

that shows that im still struggling.i havent reached the point where i want to be,yet.

but im happy that you feel something different in me.for the better.i trust your instincts.

DD

and you know im here to know all the news,when they come.i believe the transformation tha tyou initiated,it will bring you all the Gifts you asked for. hurray to Pluto!!

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posted June 16, 2010 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra,

Yes, I can feel it, too.

I have checked the Tristan-Isolde patterns with 3 men. And it`s astounding. I was using conjunction, opposition, trine and square and 2 degree orb.


Just look at this:

With PK:

his Tristan trine my Isolda (1.3)
his Isolda conjunct my Tristan (1.3)

his Mars conjunct my Dr Tristan (0.5)
his Marc square my Dr Isolda (0.2)

There seems to be a clear Tristan-Isolde theme, that somehow has transformed.
While in the past he might have played a "Marc"-role, now the connection has more of a Tristan-Isolde-vibe itself. Interesting, isn`t it?

J:
his Marc conjunct my Tristan (0.0)
his Marc square my Isolde (0.3)

his Isolde trine my Dr Tristan (1.5)
his Dr Tristan square my Marc (0.2)


The change is not as evident as in the first case, but it seems that in the past, on the one hand there may have been a certain attraction (Tristan / Isolde), but at the same time there was a (family) obligation, and he seems to have been torn between his "loyalty" to me (Tristan was Marc`s beloved nephew) and someone he truely loved (probably someone who would have his or her Isolde on 9 Leo, the degree of his Draco Tristan.
Actually my Draco Chiron is on 9 Leo, I might have been REALLY hurt by his betrayal previously.

Apparently the roles would now be reversed (I have to use the conjunctive, as this is only a potential, and would probably only be activated if we had a relationship with each other).
His Marc is not only precicely conjunct my Tristan, but also my Boda and Stonehenge are there.

I would probably feel like I owe him something (his Marc conjunct my Tristan - Marc took Tristan into his home, when Tristan`s parents died tragically), but I would possibly be drawn to someone else, which might plunge me into an internal conflict.
At the same time his Marc squares my Isolda. Looks very challenging to me; Isolda never loved her husband (even though she respected him). She married him to ensure peace between Ireland (her home - Ireland is on my ASC!) and Cornwall.
(This triangle is a bit less ambigue than the one involving Arthur / Guinevere / Lancelot, as Guinevere was truely torn between the two men, while Isolde`s heart was very clear, she loved Tristan and stayed with her husband out of duty.).


PS:

his Marc square my Tristan (3.0 - a bit wide)

his Tristan trine my Dr Isolde (0.3)
his Dr Tristan square my Dr Isolde (1.5)
his Dr Marc trine my Tristan (1.3)


Again, there seems to be a pattern of "obligation" on my side, and it seems to have become more challenging (in the Draco it was a trine, int ropicial it is a square).
In the past there seems to have been a passionate love, too, but it seems to have gone wrong (the square).
All in all the tropical seems to be the most "undramatic" of all these three synastries.

I also had a look at the synastry of the guys to each other.


PK - J:

You remember, there was a clear splitting of roles, with PK falling into the Tristan/Isolde and J falling into the Marc-categor (in relation to me).


So in THEIR synastry they have:

PK`S Isolde conjunct J`s Marc (which is no surprise, as PK`s Isolde conjuncts my Tristan).
So the traditional triangle seems to be established here.

PK`S Dr Tristan conjunct J`s Dr Marc
This does even intensifies that conflict, doesn`t it?
Interestingly their conjunction is Pisces on the EXACT degree of my tropical Juno and Draco Valentine! That is just so

PK`S Dr Marc also squares J`s Dr Isolde
so it has also been the other way round.
I was looking, how I might fit in there.

The funny Thing is that PK`s Dr Marc falls onto my ASC, and J`s Dr Isolde falls onto my Ceres and Jupiter.

If I include PS:

PK`s Marc opposes PS`Dr Tristan
- so again that uncle-nephew-relationship with the possible betrayal and taking away of uncle`s bride / wife.


Interestingly PK`s Marc conjuncts my tropical Chiron and thus PS`Dr Tristan opposes my Chiron - so could it be that their conflict and possible "separation" caused some pain for me?


my own Dr Isolde is actually squaring to PK`S Marc as well as PS` Dr Tristan.
So another perfect triangle is established, this time stemming from the past, obviously.

BTW J and PS do not share any relevant Tristan-Marc, Tristan-Isolde or Isolde-Marc- aspects, neither in tropical nor in Draco!


So the triangles seem to involve PK, J and me, or PS, PK and me.
No wonder I always felt that there was a LOT of karma as well as fatedness with PK, we must have been through a lot.
Luckily that "releasing - meditation" worked quite well, I think. At least I do not have this strained karmic feeling about him anymore.


But anyway how was that for an interpretation? Makes sense, astrologically I mean?

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posted June 18, 2010 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH my GOD!

I was just playing around on astro.com, and I already knew that when I first spoke to him there was a Tristan-Isolde-conjunction in the sky (in Leo).

But what I did not know was that on the day we first saw each other (didn`t speak though), there was ALSO a Tristan-Isolde-conjunction in the sky, in Aries!


And there was an exact Pluto-Valentine conjunction on the GC, which fell onto our synastric Sun-Moon-conjunction!!!


This is getting almost creepy, isn`t it?

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posted June 18, 2010 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is a thread (a very intriguing one at that!) about Tristan and Isolde, but I've just noticed a pattern:

Persephone-NN/SN?

What's all that about? My Mother remarried, and her and my stepfather have Persephone conjunct NN/SN. My lesbian aunts who have been together 30 years have Persephone conjunct NN double whammy!

I know the myth of Persephone and Hades. I'm thinking maybe Persephone represents the ultimate partner (which is why Hades abducted her?)?...

DD, have you spent anytime with Persephone/Hades? Your expertise in how she manifests?

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posted June 18, 2010 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meta,

Pluto-Prosperina is one of my other favourite mythological couples. Very transformational.
And yes, I have also noticed some patterns.

Maybe you could start a thread on these two?

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posted June 18, 2010 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will do!

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posted July 31, 2018 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would these two mean in synastry? My Isolde is conjunct this guy's Tristan almost exactly.

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