posted June 24, 2010 03:08 AM         

Most of the people are weirdo's and/or jerks.... I met this one guy (via pc) not in person.. and we clicked well... he's cool so far... So I told him about Astrology. He is opened to it and freely gave me his info, and was curious for me to tell him what I see about me and him...

So I did the charts and my mouth just dropped to the floor..

He does live close, so distance or anything is not an issue.... Hummm....

Do you think you can really connect with people on a high level via computer....

I'm leary about meeting strangers in public, should I even consider it....

Check out this synastry and composite.

posted June 24, 2010 03:15 AM         

His Mars opps my Asc.

His venus conj my Asc, His Mars conj my DC,Pluto,vertex,

My True Node conj his MC
Saturn conj Uranus

Damn he hits my 7th hard...

posted June 24, 2010 04:13 AM         

You could meet him.. and then drop it if you don't like him.

posted June 24, 2010 07:49 AM         

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Do you think you can really connect with people on a high level via computer...

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Well, why not. At least you can develop such a level via pc..

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I'm leary about meeting strangers in public, should I even consider it....

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Well, why not. I've dated 5 times before I found the one. At first I didn't want to meet him because I couldn't put up with his dream of the future of living/settle down together etc. He agreed and understood which gave me trust.
We had one thing in common and that was the fact that we were both TOTALLY DONE with all the vague and confusing connections we still had with other online so-called "love seekers". Later, he even said he was soo done with the woman that sexually *used* him (how sweet, how really really piscery to say that for a man).
Our synastry was great as well, but reality hold me back at the time.
After a while, a frustrated dating time with another guy again and a sort of compromis about this future-dream between us, we finally met.
But our current problem.. his dream to settle down with me appears again, fare more than I thought it would be (compromise?).. (my Moon in his 4th)
Well Leoness, with all those planets in his 4th, if he's TRULY ready to commit it wouldn't surprise me if..

Hit the mark on a first date?

posted June 24, 2010 08:27 AM         

I have to add that with a romantic relationship---3D may not work when 2D does.
There are 3D things that must mesh or the relationship can't go further than friends.
I had that experience with a 2D relationship that did not fit in 3D for me.
It did for him but not for me.
I look forward to your responses!

posted June 24, 2010 12:45 PM         

IDK I'm nervous about it... I have so many what if's.....
It's not like their profile says serial killer looking for 15th victim.. Or looking for someone to kill.... LOL....

How do I protect myself...

Where do u meet at... What if you wannna run, how do u get out of there in a heart beat...

@ AMI, I do understand what u mean, I often connect with people via internet, and become good friends with them, I have quite a few, only they live far, so meeting has never come up.... I feel safer sometimes talkin to people that dont know me.... I feel i can be alot more honest... Its nice, you can totally lower that outer shell right from the start...

Any opinions on the synastry/composite....

posted June 24, 2010 12:50 PM         

i met my bf online...4 years ago.we instantaneously cliked at a deep level and met through synchronicity.

when we met it was like we already knew each other before,at a deep level too.

it is possible to know a person through the internet...i believe we were already in love then.

but it is always a risk you might have to take.

posted June 24, 2010 01:09 PM         

I'll tell you what I see in the synastry chart. It looks like there will be enough attraction for some dating and having fun but the only Saturn connections I see are a double-whammy Saturn=Uranus. It's kind of strong "break-up" energy. There is a Saturn-Uranus conjunction in your 7th House and a Saturn-Uranus trine between you. Even though it's the trine and it makes it easier, it's one of those very uncomfortable energies to have in a relationship.

Although I don't do Magi astrology that much, one thing I have noticed is their "Heart Break Clash" aspect theory is pretty accurate much of the time. His Saturn exactly opposes your Chiron.

Actually, I don't know who's chart is who's in this synastry, but that's what I see.

One more thing that makes me incredibly nervous about this synastry chart, especially in light of all of your fears is the Mars-Pluto conjunction right at your 7th House. If this was someone you already knew, I wouldn't be so nervous, I'd say it's very strong sexual energy, but with a stranger off of the internet, I don't like it AT ALL!! The best case scenario is a very strong sexual energy, the worst case scenario...internet stranger nightmare!

Please, everyone else, jump in on this, give your opinion, if I'm being scary - I apologize, but she is talking about the fear of internet dating and why have this tool of astrology and this knowledge if not to get strong insight. My suggestion is to speak with this guy as long as possible before you step out with him. If you get the slightest bit of strangeness from him, back off.

I'm having a similar issue right now as well. I've never connected with someone that I've met on the internet, either. As a matter of fact, I purposely do not own a web cam, not because I don't want the other person to see me "live on camera", I don't want a 3rd anonymous party watching me since I never believe that we are fully private on these things.

However, I did meet someone who lives overseas that I want to get to know and I've been seriously considering getting the web cam. He happens to be a successful actor in his country and there's plenty of information about him on the internet and television and movie databases, so I'm just a little bit more lucky. I've looked at his chart and we have some connections.

Even with all of that information at my finger tips, it's still scary.

Lioness, you and I are kind of in that same generation, born in the late 60's through 70's and it's not as easy for us to jump on board with meeting strangers on the internet, but half of my client base is constantly asking me, "Should I fly to Slovenia to meet this man that I met on the internet?" And, "He lives in Texas and I live in Sydney, Australia. He wants me to come there and I don't know what to do?"

posted June 24, 2010 01:15 PM         

Both me and this guy have Uranus in the 7th... Can you say strange and unusual things goin on here... LOL

So I meet crazy people in unusual circumstances... I always have to be on the look out for this.. oooo the stories... LOL

He did say he's applied to become a CHP..

But my imagination goes wild and I keep seeing myself goin to meet him and ending up on Dateline.... LOL... (yeah thats really my luck) hahahhahah

So astrology speaking I was looking at his transits, and considering mine right now..
HIM
T. Uranus conjunt his Venus... my Asc
T.Saturn conjunt his Mars... My DC. Pluto
T. NN opps his NN....my prenatal Solor/Lunar Eclipse.......

He wants to meet on Sat.. The day of the Eclpise :O .........

posted June 24, 2010 01:20 PM         

i didnt looked at aspects,let see

well im not that versed as you in astrology of course,so i would be cautioous too about the aspects you stated

but i see some nice ones that might be very romantic and somehow fated?

amor/isis cj
nn/mc conjuction
moon/pluto cj--the outer person might be possessive in emotions all right..but somehow there is a fated conection here.

vertex/Saturn cj juno/uranus.at the same time that saturn/uranus is break -up possibility,there is a pull here cause of the juno ( committed partner) with the lord of karma & the destiny´s gate.

his mars/pallas on lio´s dsc/pluto/vertex! this is strong really!!! but means also a powerful sexual attraction and somehow an intelectual bond here with pallas. as lio has her pluto on her dsc,might say that she is aware and also identified with plutonian energies in love perhaps?

lio´s stellium of moon/sun/merc on his 4th and lio´s psych&ceres/pallas/mars on his 5th!hmmmm is here a need of nurturing each other)as well as a family here?

nn/isis conjunction...interesting!lio´s represents the ideal partner in his path.

aprhodite cj kiron:the possibility to wound & healing through the attraction to each other perhaps?

posted June 24, 2010 01:29 PM         

I don't like that transit at all!!

Which one? The fact that transiting Saturn will be conjunct his Mars which is right on your Pluto!!!!!

That's absolutely HORRIBLE!!! There's nothing pleasant about that transit for EITHER OF YOU! And having that transit occur right on an angle for you...

My whole hearted vote is "NO!" I would love for iQ or Glaucus to weigh in on this one before you go out with this guy.

Yes, there are some pleasant attraction type aspects but that doesn't cancel out the other aspects.

Here's the weird part, looking at his chart individually he doesn't seem like a wacky guy to me, it's just that when I put your charts together with the transits that you will both be experiencing, it doesn't look like a great time to be out on a date for either of you. And don't forget that transiting Uranus is exactly opposite that point as well. So, please be careful.

posted June 24, 2010 01:35 PM         

His Nexxus opps my NN.....

I cant find the number for Dejanira.. Do u have it?

posted June 24, 2010 01:44 PM         

This is a bolt of lightning splitting a boulder into pieces. It's like an earthquake.

It's Anna Nicole Smith and her 88 year old husband.

Basically, it's conservatism clashing with liberalism, the old and the new, the status quo being ruffled by entirely new ways of doing things.

It's the 2 year old working the iPad next to the grandparent who can't figure out which button turns off the computer.

posted June 24, 2010 01:50 PM         

better to see how his nessus and dejanira plays out in your chart.and yours with his.how it aspects the other planets too.

if Geo is saying all of that,then i would believe it.

Geo is great at this of course,and i would not proceed if she says it is dangerous.

posted June 24, 2010 01:58 PM         

yes, I think you can connect with people over internet.
I have an email friend; we have been writing each other for 6 years, several emails per week, but we have only met in real life for the first time this april.
Even though we bascially know each other inside out (if you exchange emails about 3 times a week, you can´t help but getting to know each other), it took me some time to adapt, yet.
Real life IS different from internet, but internet can be a good preparation for a real life meeting; it`s just a weird feeling to get to know someone without meeting them first, instead of the other way round, first meet someone and then get to know them.

Anyway, you sound very uncertain about that meeting; this alone is probably a warning sign for you. Is it just nervousness or do you feel something deep inside that something is not "entirely right"?
If you get that feeling, you should take it VERY serious.
I once met a guy, I met online on an astrology forum; we had been talking much, even on the phone for hours, and then we met.
My very first feeling about him when I read one of his posts on this astrology forum was actually a not completely positive one. Not dislike, it`s hard to describe. But then we started to talk a lot, and things like that get forgotten.
But when I met him, I was literally hearing all alarmsirenes shriek and all warning lights flicker vividly in my mind; he didn`t do anything wrong, it was just that every instinct in me screamed.
It was the only time that I was practically rude to a complete stranger, cause I listened to these alarm signs and completely broke any kind of contact.
Funnily though I noticed only at a bit later time, that not only his Venus was conjunct my Sun, but that his Saturn was opposing his Uranus-Pluto-conjunction, and all these three planets were squaring his Venus and of course my Sun. Put to that his Scorpio Moon on my Uranus. lol

anyway what I want to say is, take your inner voice VERY seriously, especially when it comes to internet friendships. In my case this voice usually is right. If I only listened to it more often! lol

On top of that I agree with Geo, these transits do NOT sound healthy to me, especially not with the coming together with a Mars-Pluto conjunction synastrically.
AND it includes BOTH your Venus-positions. All the sexual planets together, in a Grand Cross, including Mars-Pluto-DESC, Venus-ASC, Jupiter-MC and Venus-IC.
In both charts sexual planets are triggered, in both charts the angles are triggered, so this would be very significant, no DOMINANT.
And ON THE ARIES POINT, which is an absolaute power-spot.
And on top of that you have these transiting planets trigger all these points.
Tr Jupiter-Uranus on the Venus-ASC-conjunction.
Tr-Saturn on the Mars-Pluto-DESC conjunction.
Tr Pluto is already off Jupiter, but maybe all of this energy pulls him in again.
And of course the ecclipse on the Venus-IC-conjunction (of his?).

Solar ecclipses are often evoking a sense of "wrong urgency". People feel pressured to act, and act quickly and almost forcefully, but usually it is better to act after the ecclipse.
Also, imagine how an ecclipse looks.
The Sun darkens, it disappears for a while, and the Moon holds the reign over the night sky.
If we consider the Sun to be about the consciousness and the MOon to be about subconsciousness, it could mean that during a Solar ecclipse we kind of lose our ability to think straight, emotions, sometimes even irrational feelings, are getting the better of us. Could be a great time to get in touch with our emotions, or we might react overemotional and do things we usually would not do, under the light of day (Sun).

What I want to say is, if I were you, I would keep talking to him (if that is what you want), get to know him through mails first, and if you want to meet, do it in a public place, at day prefereably, and please not on the day of the ecclipse.

But maybe I see it all wrong, and this Grand cross in your charts just relates to an unbelievable strong passion between you (but then again, passion is not always love) - oh I don`t know. I really don`t.

I`d be careful myself, though.

posted June 24, 2010 02:32 PM         

Here's my honest feelings on it.....

Ok I have never met anyone via net before so I am nervous about it.... I went on one blind date when I was like 16 and ended up jumping a fence.. LOL (uranus) Dont ask... hahahha. I swore off blind dates....
Im recently separated, been married for 12 years so this internet dating thing is new to me... So its a little scary...

I usually met people for the first time in person via friends out.. etc.. So if I dont like them its no biggie....

I dont get a bad vibe about him, I really liked talking to him....
(he only has my first name and my email address) I havent even given him my mumber we have only chatted via yahoo..

But I was curious to see his chart, and wanted to see if he was open to Astrology and he was, and he freely gave me his info... (which I thought was really nice and cool) cuz u know some people just think its weird and wont give out their info.....

Its when I looked at our Synastry is when I got more freaked.. For one all the NN/vertex connections... KARMA???? IDK if i can take another Karmic relationship... LOL

Then he told me about him becoming a CHP and I thought about guns, and realized his Mars was conjunt my DC/pluto/vertex :0.... Then Add Uranus and Pluto in there opps my ASC.... All this in my 7th (open enemies) opps my first......YIKES!!! Good LORD!!!

Then I noticed my Neptune was in his 7th, so he would see me they way he wanted to, be then what would happen when he saw the light!!

So its Astrology that made me even more Leary .....

Then I started to think am I being silly do I relay on Astrology to much, and I seeing it as a negative experience just because of Astrology.... So thats when I reached out to you guys on your opinions...

No matter what I WONT meet him this weekend... I will stall and see if I get any bad vibes first, before I consider meeting him in public.....

I do appreciate everyone's opinions much luv and huggs....

I am taking everyone's opinions/advice into consideration, and I wanna be sure before I meet him......

posted June 24, 2010 02:37 PM         

Your observation of these charts was like a NUCLEAR EXPLOSION OF GREATNESS!!!!! And your advice along with some personal disclosure was just brilliant. Thank you for sharing your experiences with meeting your longterm internet friends, it helped me as well.

Saturn-Uranus can be a generational aspect. Have you ever heard a person say, "I can't stand dating men or women who are my age."? Sometimes it has to do with that generational aspect or how it integrates into your own chart. What I notice is that this guy is looks to be between 8 and 11 years older than her. (Which is the same case with the guy I met) so that's usually not something you think about in terms of generational aspects unless you're continuously connecting with people of a certain generation.

I want to say that I don't want to conrol what Lioness does, I think that all of us who have responded, by telling her to be careful, are represented as the current transiting Jupiter at the Aries Point - the guardian angel. She has free will to choose what she wants to do and the golden rule is always in place, JUST BE CAREFUL!!

Your original question was: "Should I meet him?" And "What are your opinions on this???" I think we all told her our opinions and I might even tell her to "MEET" him, that doesn't mean to date him or take a night time walk in the park with him or down a dark alley, etc. You know, I'm trying to lighten this up because as much as I claim to not like fear mongering, I certainly have done a bang up job here. LOOOL!!!

posted June 24, 2010 02:50 PM         

Yes you are correct we have a huge age difference, 9 years.. only I'm the older one... LOL......

Im on the inside and he is out the outside... I do have a male friend who is the same age as him, and his Saturn does not conjunt my Uranus. And my friends Saturn is at 5LIB... We are really good friends, but not any type of romantic relationship...

posted June 24, 2010 03:37 PM         

that is a difficult question how it WILL all play out. I don`t think I can actually predict what WILL be, but what I see is:

Venus and Mars are relationship planets and pertain to sexual attraction.
Rulers of your 1st and 7th houses are part of it, too, these are your "personal Venus and personal Mars", and definitely pertain to relationships.
Pluto is there, too, as the "great intensificator".
The Venus-signs are Aries and Cancer, two very emotional signs.
Yet, belonging to different elements. It is a meeting of Fire and water, no, CARDINAL fire and water (both are very much convinced of their "own thing") - what does happen if you put fire into water?
It`s hissing and foaming, boiling and sometimes even exploding.
He has got a Venus-Mars-opposition natally, so he may have some boiling emotions inside. Maybe feels attracted to women who are very different from himself.
And you have a Venus-Pluto natal square, (I do, too. ), this is a pretty deep, yet complicated aspect, but definitely passionate, even though sometimes it is more like a "hidden passionate-ness".
Pluto does not like to be too obvious.
Of course since Pluto is on your DESC - maybe you sometimes project that Pluto onto men?

Anyway, these two very passioante, foaming, tensed natal aspects overlay each other really tightly. You could blindly find each other`s "red buttons", I think.

Your Venus is also square his Venus/Mars-mp AND aspecting his Venus and Mars. This could relate to a very strong sexual attraction on his side.
I am actually VERY glad that it is not him who contributes Pluto to this powder-keg!
(it doesn`t have to be, but sometimes, strong Pluto, especially Mars-Pluto or ASC-Pluto-aspects can detoriate into physical assaults, but PLEASE, this does not HAVE to happen, it is an extreme scenario)-

Your Mars falling into his 5th house could mean that there is a strong sexual attraction or interest from him to you. Put to that the mentioned Venus-Mars-Pluto-DESC-interplay and you get a potentially VERY intense passionate connection; this passion of course could also lead into arguments and bickering, if for some reason the tension cannot be solved in more enjoyable way.

I was looking for planets that may "relax" the opposition you have there.

There is your Neptune which seems to be trine his Venus and sextile his Mars. And it falls into his 7th house!
So maybe your spirituality, your compassion could bring some serenity and peace into this. ON the other hand there may be a lot of idolization in play here, too, and maybe neither sees the other really as you are.
Neptune-Venus, as beautiful this aspect is, also has its drawback.
It is beautiful, it feels magical, like a soulmate-connection (maybe it is), a very loving, gentle exchange (which could help a lot with the sexual tension there), BUT Venus (and Mars too) want a PERSONAL love relationship, while Neptune does not really understand this word. Neptune`s love is more of a spiritual, all-encompassion, sometimes platonic kind of love, while Venus wants to be romantic. But it is a trine, so it may be all good.
Neptune rules your intercepted 12th house, so that emphasis on spirituality is even more stressed.
But as I said that may actually be helpful.
His Uranus on your Neptune and trine your ASC might add a more mental note to it, and of course some excitement, too. In a trine it should be actually pleasant exitement. With his Uranus in your 8th house, he may shake up your emotional and sexual world quite a bit.
So Neptune and Uranus could actually be mitigating factors.
But to have Neptune, Uranus AND Pluto so closely connected with highly personal planets or angles like Venus, Mars and ASC/DESC, is a strong exclamationmark, as I think.
There is something very intense and potentially transformative about that.
Karmic maybe?
Maybe you are transformations-mates.

posted June 24, 2010 03:40 PM         

i couldbe wrong but...that doesnt seem very nice...dejanira stands for sexual abuse if i remember correctly.

DD do you remember about this?

IQ

if you re reading this please Jump in!

Geo

great analysis

posted June 24, 2010 03:46 PM         

I do.

IQ mentioned that if a guy`s Nessus was squaring or opposing a girl`s Dejanira or Venus, this spelled trouble for the girl; trouble in form of possible sexual abuse.

To think that a step further, the Moon-Nessus-aspects would rather relate to a form of emotional abuse or pressure.