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jane
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posted July 26, 2010 04:09 PM
  
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DD
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posted July 26, 2010 04:13 PM
Jeez, Jane, what a BEAUTIFUL image!  IP: Logged |
jane
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posted July 26, 2010 04:20 PM
Eros is the sh1t.  IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 26, 2010 04:24 PM
Eros ROCKS.  IP: Logged |
jane
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posted July 26, 2010 04:25 PM
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jane
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posted July 26, 2010 04:30 PM
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jane
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posted July 26, 2010 04:46 PM
Teasel -Your Venus chart aspects my natal. I guess we oughta just go ahead and become lovers. What the charts want, the charts get! 
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jane
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posted July 26, 2010 04:52 PM
Oh wait. Maybe DD is my love. I'm sure we could arrange joint custody. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 26, 2010 04:53 PM
Good idea!
Will do so soon.Just wanted to show you the long Amor/Eros/Psyche list (damn, it, I forgot Cupido. Doesn`t matter): his v Pluto conjunct my t Sun/Moon-mp (0)
his V Moon conjunct my t Moon (2)
his v Saturn conjunct my t MC (2) my v Jupiter opposite his t NEptune (1)
my v Saturn conjunct his t MC (2) his v Neptune conjunct my v Sun (3)
isn`t that boring?
Anyway, on to the asteroids (can you feel it, I am reaching? )
his v Pluto opposite my t Eros (0)
his v Amor conjunct my t SN (0)
his v Eros opposite my t Venus (1)
his v Juno conjunct my t Juno (2)
his v Karma opposite my t Pluto (2)
his v Karma conjunct my t IC (2)
his v Amor conjunct my T DESC (3) my v Moon opposite his t Psyche (0)
my v Aphrodite opposite his tSun (0)
my v Aphrodite conjunct his t Valentine (0)
my v Sun conjunct his t Eros (0)
my v Juno conjunct his t DESC (1)
my V Valentine conjunct his t Amor (1)
my v Valentine conjunct his t Amor (1)
my v Saturn opposite his t Chiron (2)
my v Eros opposite his t Chiron (2)
my v Moon conjunct his Aphrodite (2)
my v Jupiter opposite his t Juno (3)
my v Chiron conjunct his t SN (3)
my v Amor conjunct his t Amor (3)
his v Eros conjunct my v Aphrodite (0)
his v Aphrodite conjunct my v Asc (0)
his v Amor conjunct my v Juno (0)
his v Juno conjunct my v Sun (1)
his v Psyche conjunct my t Amor (1)
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jane
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posted July 26, 2010 05:00 PM
Haha, it sounded like you were agreeing to share me with teasel. quote:
isn`t that boring?
 Pluto smack dab on your Sun/Moon mp is far from boring! IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 26, 2010 05:01 PM
Jane,yeah with my NN on your v DESC (which of course means that it is widely conjunct my t ASC, too), we are probably meant to have a relationship.
But with your Venus on my v Chiron - are you intending to left my heart battered and bruised?
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DD
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posted July 26, 2010 05:15 PM
Jane,I know Well, actually it is also smack on my Antivertex.
Sharing you? Hmm, I am not good in sharing actually. See`Didn`t I tell you, your fickle Venus is already hurting my vulnerable Chiron.
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teasel
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posted July 26, 2010 05:49 PM
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Haha, it sounded like you were agreeing to share me with teasel.
 Yes, it did.  IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 26, 2010 06:06 PM
LOL
Indeed.
But it wasn´t intended that way.
I am usually not THAT impatient. IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted July 26, 2010 07:01 PM
Wait DD, so how wide of an orb would you use? Because the one ex I mentioned who's v Pluto didn't really make any connections in my chart, my v Pluto does conjunct his n ASC but by 4 degrees.IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 26, 2010 07:12 PM
Well, 4 degrees would be the widest I allow. But ideally there should be at least one 1 degree conjunction or opposition, but maybe I am too strict.  IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted July 26, 2010 07:14 PM
Well, I was seeing if the v Pluto-ASC/Venus/NN would indicate a long term relationship or merely any relationship with romantic feelings involved. Because in my long term relationships that aspect is definitely there but with Vertex boy, it's there but loosely, and we didn't really date.ETA: It's not there at all with aspergers boy, who I was really attached to and we dated but not ever officially. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 27, 2010 05:18 AM
Amowls,hmm, seems the theory doesn`t hold then.
Anyway, I still think that v Pluto in contact to tropical planets may be pretty significant and transformative.
And of course v Pluto conjúnct / opposing t Venus is up there, too. We are looking at the VENUS-chart after all, so aspects to t Venus will always be significant. Jane, remember the guy we have been speaking about, Patrick? The one with the Draco Chiron-synastry?
Since I am going to a concert tonight I thought I would be looking at the Venusian synastry with him, too. his v Pluto conjunct my t Sun (0)
his v DESC conjunct my t Valentine (0)
his v Neptune conjunct my t Psyche (0)
his v Karma conjunct my t ASC (0)
his v Saturn conjunct my t Amor (1)
his v Aphrodite conjunct my t Amor (1)
his v Karma conjunct my t Mars (2)
his v Karma conjunct my t NN (2)
his v Aphrodite conjunct my t Mars (2) my v DESC conjunct his t NN (0)
hmy v MC conjunct his t Moon (0)
my v Karma conjunct his t Amor (0)
my v Amor conjunct his t Psyche (0) lol
my v Uranus conjunct his t Venus (0)
my v Moon conjunct his t Chiron (1) - of course!
my v MC conjunct his t Sun (1)
my v Karma opposite his t Eros (1)
my v Karma conjunct his t Mars (1)
my v Psyche opposite his t Valentine (1)
my v SN Conjunct his t NN (2)
my v Mars conjunct his t SN (2) his v Sun conjunct my v ASC (0)
his v MC conjunct my v ASC (0)
his v Chiron conjunct my v Chiron (0)
his v Moon conjunct my v NN (1)
his v Moon conjunct my v Neptune (1)
his v Eros conjunct my v Moon (1)
his v Sun conjunct my v Mars (2)
his v Moon conjunct my v ASC (2)
his v MC conjunct my NN (2)
his v MC conjunct my Neptune (2)
his v MC conjunct my v Mars (2)
his v Amor opposite my v Moon (2)
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DD
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posted July 27, 2010 05:25 AM
Jane, Amowls and all others who participate,I think it`s time to set some ground rules, some condition that indicate that something really "works".
A filter to run the various charts, through, if you want. I was thinking that in really working significant charts / astrological synastric techniques, conjunctions / oppositions to the tropical within 1 degree or at most 2°from major players (and maybe Karma, Eros and Juno, but not sure about that) to Sun, Moon, ASC, MC, NN and the "theme planet" (in the Venusian chart it owuld be Venus, in the Erosian chart it would be Eros etc.) be present. Do you agree? Or what other suggestions do you have to find out if something REALLY consistently works and is not just purely coincidental? Of course the relationships / connections in our sample charts have to fit the "chart-theme", which means that the Venusian chart will kick in - maybe, likely- only, if Venusian themes like attraction, romance, sensuality, relating or art / creative enterprises are important in a relationship. EDIT:
I wonder what the probability would be to find a hit, for conjunction / opposition (orb: 2°00) of Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, SAturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, NN, ASC and MC to Sun, Moon, NN, ASC or MC. Probably it would be pretty HUGE. IP: Logged |
jane
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posted August 02, 2010 06:41 PM
I'm sorry to be getting back to you so late. You know I love your undemanding Aqua Moon, right? That I write odes to it every evening?
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Do you agree?
Yes.
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Or what other suggestions do you have to find out if something REALLY consistently works and is not just purely coincidental?
I'm personally always convinced by patterns. Take a pair like Eros and Psyche. Then have the man's Venus Shift Psyche narrowly aspecting the woman's Sun, and the woman's Venus Shift Eros narrowly aspecting the man's Sun. Things like that always excite and persuade me.
I think it's unlikely that you'll find patterns like that without also finding those other connections you mentioned. So I agree it's wise to look for those. They're a cleaner system.
Btw, you can add my SO and me to the group of couples who have his v-Pluto aspecting her personal planet.IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted August 02, 2010 08:19 PM
omg this is so interesting and IQ, look at those KAALI aspects!!!!! 
<b>EROS TO EROS</b>
HIS PROSERPINA/BRIEDE OPP MY VENUS
HIS VENUS CJ MY JUNO/KARMA
HIS NN CJ MY JUNO/KARMA AND OPP MY SUN AND VENUS/MARS MP
HIS PLUTO OPP MY VALENTINE/HIS NAME
HIS GROOM CJ MY LARA
HIS LARA CJ MY PERSEPHONE AND OPP MY PSYCHE
HIS PSYCHE CJ MY MARS
HIS SATURN CJ MY CUPID AND OPP MY DESTINN
HIS SUN CJ MY PLUTO AND OPP MY DNA
<b>EROS – TROPICAL</b>
HIS BRIEDE CJ MY NN/SATURN
HIS PROSERPINA CJ MY VENUS
HIS VENUS CJ MY SUN/MOON MP
HIS NN CJ MY BRIEDE/GROOM MP
HIS PLUTO CJ MY VALENTINE/HIS NAME
HIS VALENTINE CJ MY KAALI
HIS MOON CJ MY PLUTO (WIDE)
HIS AMOR CJ MY JUNO
HIS MARS CJ MY GROOM
HIS EROS OPP MY EROS (WIDE)
HIS VALENTINE OPP MY GROOM
HIS SUN/MOON MP OPP MY LARA
HIS SATURN OPP MY CUPID
HIS MARS OPP MY KAALI
HIS CUPID OPP MY PLUTO MY PSYCHE CJ HIS CUPID
MY NEPTUNE CJ HIS VENUS/EROS
MY SUN/MOON MP CJ HIS VALENTINE
MY MARS CJ HIS MOON
MY CUPID CJ HIS LARA
MY PLUTO CJ HIS CHIRON/VERTEX
MY GROOM OPP HIS BODA
MY AMOR OPP HIS MARS
MY PROSERPINA OPP HIS EROS, VENUS/MARS MP
MY LARA OPP HIS PROSERPINA
MY VALENTINE/HIS NAME OPP HIS KAALI <b>VENUS – VENUS</b>
HIS NN CJ MY BRIEDE/GROOM MP, VENUS/MARS MP AND MY SUN
HIS KALLI CJ MY PERSEPHONE
HIS VALENTINE CJ MY ASCENDANT
HIS KARMA CJ MY PLUTO
HIS VENUS/MARS MP CJ MY DNA
HIS AMOR OPP MY AMOR/MOON
HIS LARA OPP MY VENUS/MARS MP
HIS SATURN OPP MY BRIEDE
HIS MARS OPP MY ASCENDENT
HIS VENUS/MARS MP AND EROS OPP MY PLUTO
HIS NAME OPP MY EROS <b>VENUS – TROPICAL</b>
HIS KAALI CJ MY SUN/MOON MP
HIS VENUS/PLUTO MP CJ MY SUN
HIS PLUTO CJ MY LARA
HIS VALENTINE CJ MY LUST
HIS MOON/KARMA CJ MY KAALI/JUPITER
HIS AMOR CJ MY EROS
HIS PSYCHE CJ MY PSYCHE
HIS DNA CJ MY ATLANTIS
HIS BRIEDE/GROOM MP CJ MY DESTINN
HIS VENUS/MARS MP AND EROS CJ MY GROOM
HIS BRIEDE/PROSERPINA CJ MY DNA
HIS KARMA OPP MY GROOM
HIS LARA OPP MY SATURN/NN
HIS SUN/MOON MP OPP MY MARS
HIS CUPID OPP MY ASC
HIS VENUS/MARS AND EROS MP OPP MY KAALI
HIS BRIEDE/PROSERPINA OPP MY PLUTO MY SUN/MOON MP CJ HIS BRIEDE/GROOM MP
MY MC CJ HIS MARS
MY PROSERPINA CJ HIS SUN
MY LARA CJ HIS EROS
MY BRIEDE CJ HIS PROSERPINA
MY VALENTINE/HIS NAME CJ HIS NN
MY ASCENDANT CJ HIS VENUS/PLUTO MP
MY EROS CJ HIS PLUTO
MY IC CJ HIS VALENTINE
MY GROOM CJ HIS GROOM/PSYCHE/DESTINN AND SUN/MOON MP
MY NN/SATURN CJ HIS DNA
MY DNA CJ HIS SATURN (WIDE)
MY MOON/AMOR OPP HIS VENUS/PLUTO MP
MY ASC OPP HIS GROOM
MY KAALI OPP HIS PSYCHE/DESTINN
MY PLUTO OPP HIS SATURN
MY IC OPP HIS MARS
MY DESTINN OPP HIS VENUS
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Lara
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posted August 02, 2010 08:20 PM
dp, sorry  IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted August 02, 2010 08:37 PM
Hi DD, sorry I haven't been around lately I just moved to a new house so I'm unpacking, plus I'm stealing Internet right now lol, so it's not very reliable. I'll get back to those aspects tomorrow. IP: Logged |
evanski
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posted September 13, 2010 10:28 AM
Hi DD For this I have to move my planets forward 20 degrees.
20 degrees Aries in my chart is Chiron. I know you don't move the Aries Point, but do you think the place it would be, if moved, could be significant?
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