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starkiss1
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posted August 04, 2010 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
DD,
Not to worry. I think I know how you feel.
Whenever suits you, darl.

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posted August 04, 2010 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
The funny thing is that my personal planets and angles are also just losely triggered by that T-square.

I have IC on 5 Aries and Venus on 6 Capricorn.
Sun/Venus-mp and Mercury/Venus-mp on 1 Capricorn though, as well as a bunch of asteroids.

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posted August 04, 2010 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
On first glance I don`t see anything bothersome.
Neptune on ASC is more a kind of "being swamped" feeling, some confusion, feeling of lack of direction or a draining of energy feeling. Of course it can also be completely inspirational and creative and spiritual.

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posted August 04, 2010 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Tr Pluto is semisquare Neptune and sesisquare Mercury though.
This would emphasise the "spiritual and intellectual crisis" you may be going through. Do you feel that other people constantly misunderstand you or donīt hear what you are saying?

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posted August 04, 2010 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
I really wonder what it is. I mean, bad things and misfortunes are not touching me as such, but I keep hearing and watching it happening to others, and I FEEL it happening to them.
I feel the pressure in my head and around me.
I feel the storm, but I am in the eye of it.

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posted August 04, 2010 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Tr Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Uranus would be semisquaring / sesisquaring your Mercury-Neptune square, too, of course. And building up, they are not yet there. Hey somethin gto look forward to.

I don`t even know if these aspects are that important. But I have been reading a Tyl book and hew orks with them.


Look out for Tr Angel maybe. It has recently conjuncted your ASC.

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posted August 04, 2010 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
LOL, we must have posted together.
Yes, I am not heard. I am invisible. My needs are taken as my whims. It's been going on for quite a long time. I am in this pressure cooker with the lid shut. I am trying to get out, but it's useless.

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posted August 04, 2010 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Try to relax.

Know that everything is alright.
I know it`s pretty hard in times like these, but I really am convinced that everything is exactly as it should be.
I compare times like these often to the process of being born. It`s not painless to be born, and can be quite a dark, narrow ride, but at the end of it there is life and colour.


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posted August 04, 2010 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
I think Neptune has blended me right into the ground. I am turning into chameleon. You can't tell me from the background

Thank you, DD, for you kind words, you are a darling.

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posted August 04, 2010 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you.


Tell me about chameleon.
I have Neptune conjunct ASC natally.
And it is also conjunct NN, Angel and Mars. lol

I AM the background. I really can dissolve with it, even if I do not really want that.

That is probably th reason that it surprised me and startled me so much that this certain guy seemed to recognize me though we didn`t have that much contact. Actually only a chat 2 years ago, and I ran into him two or three times after that but without really talking to him. Yet he seemed to remember me, when I met him last week.
He is not even supposed to SEE me.
Hence my Neptunian cap.
He is puzzling me a lot. NOONE sees me, especially if I do not want to be seen.

I still wonder if it is my Sun and Mercury on his Sun-Moon-conjunction or his Mercury on my Neptune-ASC-Mars-NN conjunction. LOL

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posted August 04, 2010 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
What do you mean he is not even supposed to see you? You have your Mars there, right under that fog! There is no smoke without fire!!

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posted August 04, 2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's his Mercury kicking off your neptunian hat. Merc is a very shrewd guy.
You can't hide from a messenger.

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posted August 04, 2010 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
He is a PERFORMER for God`s sake.
I am supposed to see HIM, not him see me.


But yeah, if someone else is acting out Neptunian for me (so I can get rid of it for a moment), then I am left with Mars. This might explain my past fascination with gay performers.
He is not gay, so he completely got under my radar. I basically didn`t see him coming, well not until he was standing in front of me. lol
How can you NOT see someone who is on stage?


And yes, Mercury is a trickster. It is not only my DESC - ruler, but his IC- and DESC-ruler, too.
His Mercury squares his Mars-Jupiter conjunction, which of course means that his Mars-Jupiter also squares my Neptune-NN-ASC.

I guess I am a bit foggy due to my Neptune.

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posted August 04, 2010 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
How can you NOT see someone who is on stage?
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You just got me thinking.
Is Neptune also making us kind of blind to the reality, not just hides us under his hat?
Like may be I can't see something at the moment which makes me sit in that pressure cooker?
Something which got me there in the first place?

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posted August 04, 2010 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, some astrologers call Neptune or 12th house the "blind spot", you can`t really see it too well. It`s of course there, but you can`t see it.

Mars in my 12th house conjunct Neptune - I do have a Mars? Really? Where is he?

In reality he is always present and others may see my Mars all too well, jsut I don`t except in Neptunian situations.
I can fight like a bull for people I consider being weaker t han me for some reason, but fighting for myself? How do you do that?
I can get Martian in spiritual things, I am aware of that.
But where is that energy that fighting spirit w hen I am in Saturnīs realm again?
Actually I think it`s through my Neptune that I connect to my Mars. BUT that is like walking through mud while the night is drenched with wavering fog.
Where am I? Why am I here? How have I come here? Where am I going? Is this ther ight direction? Is it even important? Waht is important?

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posted August 04, 2010 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
I understand. Funnily, I read something recently which really resonated with my state of mind at the moment. The main concept in a nutshell is that everything surrounding us is the illusion we created for ourselves. I realise this concept is as old as the world, but it's only attracting and grasping my attention now, with tr Neptune on my Asc. It never interested me before.

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