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electricmind
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posted August 04, 2010 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
i'm sitting here thinking about what I define myself by. and i've gotten to the point where i feel like my validity as a person rests on my career accomplishments. that makes sense for me as i am a capricorn rising with mercury, venus, jupiter and neptune in all in capricorn plus saturn in the 10th house.

i don't feel comfortable here. i'd rather not define myself by my accomplishments but i don't know any other way.

how do you define yourself? are there any factors in your chart you can attribute it to? is it solely your ascendant/chart ruler placement?

i'd love to hear other people's experiences...

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Mblake81
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posted August 04, 2010 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
Take me with a grain of salt

i had/have a crisis of being, i.e what am i doing here, who am i really.

Im a heavy introvert, my answer lies/is finding enlightenment in this life.

what is life, to be alive.

This isnt aimed at you, but where my thinking rests now is if i based my value on a career that you cant take with you when you die its ultimatly a waste of time.

all that really matters is the one thing no one can take from you, you were born with it, you have it now and you take it with you

its a soul, if you dont have one i suggest heading to your local walmart and asking the clerk where to buy one.

--thats a joke of course but i value the spirit over any monetary idea.

*disclaimer* soul/spirit is IMHO not related to any human built institutions, your born with it... its what you take with you after this existence.

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raspberri
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posted August 04, 2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
I define myself as a woman who can make a family..but I will make as much if not more money than my husband.

I define myself as someone who is extremely feminine, but also very intelligent. I feel that having a baby would complete me because of my Cancer Sun.. That would bring me very strong emotional satisfaction. But I PRIDE myself on my academic accomplishments. So to answer your question I define myself with what will make me emotionally happy and where I think I have the most pride; what I'm proud of about myself.

I have Libra ASC with Venus in Gemini in the 9th house. Cancer sun also in the 9th along with Mercury.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 04, 2010 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
That is such a wonderful question,Electric mind.
I SHOULD define myself ,spiritually, by my relationship with God.
However, I don't or I would be happy cuz God loves me
I will come back and answer after I have given it more thought.

Love you,

Ami


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Lioness
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posted August 04, 2010 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Mblake.. I feel you, I have asked this to myself many times.. I am also an introvert. I am just now coming out into the light.. I think astrology has helped me alot, its has helped me understand so many things about myself, that I could never understand.

I feel as if my life is Karmic, everything happens for a reason, that the universe works in mysterious ways and has a grand plan..

I feel as if I am an agent for transformation. Both for myself and for other people.. I feel as if everyone I connect with is for a purpose to evoke change in both of us.. My Karma and their healing so to speak........
After each connection I am deeply hurt for the loss.... People come and go into my life so quickly..
Here are some of the aspects that I think make me feel this way..

Pluto/Vertex.Psyche conjunct Dsc/ opps Asc
pluto in the 6th/7th cusp..
Service and Duty/Relations with others
Uranus in the 7th
Aqua ruler of the 12th
Mars in the 6th

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Mblake81
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posted August 04, 2010 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
Hello lioness,

**overly generalized viewpoint**

I went through this phase too, the events in my existence comes in waves.

Here is my view now on it at this point.

It is your karma, what you said is true but only half.

** my view will not be complete untill the moment of death, at that point ive learned as much as i can so its final, untill then

ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE, no sacred cows

By only half i mean-- Regardless if you knew your karma or not, you would still be doing it. How many karmic events are taking place in your life right now but you have no clue and neither do i, but it happens anyway.

on a side note the only difference between insanity and genious is a fraction of a hair,

the hair is awareness of yourself

and what that means is everything

here is my chart http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204981.html

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Lioness
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posted August 04, 2010 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
By only half i mean-- Regardless if you knew your karma or not, you would still be doing it. How many karmic events are taking place in your life right now but you have no clue and neither do i, but it happens anyway.
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Dont ask... LOTS!!! I know... If only I could give Karma an IOU...
Lots of things going on right now.. OOO the stories I have.. People are sometimes amazed at my stories.. I should write a book

I have sooo many awful stories.. Very traumatic things.
I guess it was meant to be. though...
Everything happens for a reason..

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swirl-kitt
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posted August 04, 2010 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
I define myself by how I look at the world..

The things I'm crazy about in the world, transcending experiences I've had. Music, dance, life, death, sex, deep bonds with people even if for a short period of time. Or how calm and peaceful and controlled I can feel sometimes.

Also my sense of humour.

And that's how I define others too. People's abilities to feel and reflect.

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iQ
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posted August 05, 2010 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
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how do you define yourself? are there any factors in your chart you can attribute it to? is it solely your ascendant/chart ruler placement?
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I define myself as a Spiritual being try to create the maximum positive impact on as many other spiritual beings incarnated in this planet as possible. Using the complete chart helped this perspective.

I found out recently that the richest man in our ancestral village of more than thousand people was uneducated, he worked hard as a daily wage labourer for a few years, bought a small piece of land with his savings, and that land sold a decade later for a million US dollars of rupee currency, it is like having 7 million dollars in USA.
None of the MBA Grads or MTechs from US Universities from here will match him, they are sh*t scared of when they will lose their contracts due to double dip recession. Most are in debt.
And just now I recalled my local scrap metal dealer. Illiterate, he has property worth 5 million dollars. And my classmates father. No degree. 50 million+ dollars of assets in Southern India, trading in scrap aluminium and steel. His friends just buy and sell leather goods, having assets 2 or 3 times more. I dont think they have even seen an Excel spreadsheet.

Do you still want to define yourself by career or money, or by your Spiritual Consciousness that transcends time and space?

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electricmind
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posted August 05, 2010 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
such wonderful, thought provoking answers. thanks everyone.

i think that the bind i'm caught in is that i am an artist. i am a singer/songwriter mainly. and my music is inspirational and is really about emotional and spiritual self empowerment. i feel that i have been given such a timely and relevant message and beautiful gift with which to deliver it. i feel like i owe it to the universe or people to make sure that they hear it.

my music is about appreciating the past and being able to release it. its about facing one's darkness and light and using it as a opportunity for transformation (my chart ruler is saturn in scorpio conjunct mars in scorpio, in the 10th house. pluto in scorpio the 10th house as well just in orb for conjunction to my libra midheaven) its also about gratitude and the power of love as an action. its about honoring your feelings and respecting them as valid without need for outside confirmation.

more and more i am encouraged that the message in my music is a RIGHT NOW message. but i also realize that as an aquarius sun, it may be a bit ahead of its time.

i have a very strong sense of destiny and purpose. and somehow it is tied up in my sense of self worth and sense of accomplishment...i do have a 2nd house sun. meaning if i am not successful at getting my message out then i am not fulfilling my purpose and i am worthless.

maybe i am wrong in thinking that i should be able to make a living from my music/gifts/talents...

i hope that what i am saying is understood. i can ramble a lot...

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vertiver
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posted August 05, 2010 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
I've come to realize that I define myself by meaningful relationships. Relationships which cause me to transform and live life to the fullest. I used to believe that traveling and roaming the world was the only thing to do, but now I realize that having significant connections with others and enjoying time with others fullfills me far more than any monetary success or even traveling. I also see myself as an artist, one who uses creativity as a release from the mundane. And like Lioness and Mblake, I recently had this terrible fear of death and what was really the point of things, but I came to realize that there is nothing to fear but fear itself...

(Natal Leo Sun 8th H and Gemini Venus 7th H - the relationship houses).

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message

((((Electric mind) You rock,Friend.


x o x Ami

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Diablo
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posted August 05, 2010 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Simple answer

I'm the most extroverted introvert ever who's a esoteric secret double agent and a walking contradiction

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Nephthys
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posted August 05, 2010 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I feel as if my life is Karmic, everything happens for a reason, that the universe works in mysterious ways and has a grand plan..
I totally agree with this!!!

Me? I define myself by what I love. Why? Because what I love is what makes me happy. I love animals more than anything. I feel such a strong compassion for animals and I feel responsible for them. I love "Mother Earth" - I love wildlife, nature, and the environment. I always worry about animals everywhere. I love everything that has to do with nature; trees, flowers, mountains, landscapes, waterfalls, canyons, etc. The beauty of the natural world. It kills me when I see an animal suffering, when I see a wildlife habitat destroyed, when I see litter on the ground.

I also love romance. I am a hopeless romantic. Once you have met the most romantic man in the world, it's hard to settle for anything but less. No offense at all towards any American men, but all the American men I have met are clueless about romance. (I hope I am not getting in trouble here!) Yes, he is 100% Italian.

So I have to attribute my response to my Sun in Taurus, Venus in Taurus, Aries Moon, and Virgo Stellium..........

(I know nothing about asteroids, I know you guys are always talking about asteroids)

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electricmind
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posted August 05, 2010 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
@Nephthys
that was beautiful...

i just knew you had lots of virgo energy.
i think the virgo woman archetype is the wild woman in the sense of being in touch with nature and her body and all of the creatures around her.

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Mblake81
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posted August 05, 2010 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
IQ's story of the man with no education makes me smile.

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raspberri
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posted August 05, 2010 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
To answer iQ's question, some people are more career oriented in life. I don't know but like I said I pride myself on my accomplishements and I am what I am. I can't choose that and what gives me fufillment may not work for everyone. I'm proud of my education and what my career will someday be. Not because of the money, but I'm sure I will have plenty of it , but because I truly want to have a certain position in life. Not to satisfy anyone but myself.

Not everyone is the same. I'm also a very spiritual being no doubt about that, but I also like being goal oriented and making my life what I want it to be.

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Mblake81
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posted August 05, 2010 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
Life is a mirror for the individual, each reflection is they're own.

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Nephthys
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posted August 05, 2010 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, electric!!

quote:
Life is a mirror for the individual, each reflection is they're own
WOW!

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raspberri
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posted August 05, 2010 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
by the way you used the wrong 'they're'

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Mblake81
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posted August 05, 2010 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
Still got the point across

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Benedict Moon*
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posted August 05, 2010 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
I define myself by my inner nature and my interests.

First and foremost I have a strong sensitive/empath nature. I'm also a natural analyzer and organizer. I prefer to stay in the background, as opposed to out in the open. I'm also highly autonomous, I honestly hate being led around like a child. I've always had a bad tendency as an acquirer: in childhood it was toys and books; now its shoes, clothes, and books. For some reason I just like having alot of nice stuff.

I like books, movies, and music that help me escape from the daily conumdrums. So you'll see alot of action-adventure, fantasy, and historical fiction in my stacks. Oh, I absolutely adore learning about history of almost any kind, and the paranormal. I miss New England most because it had a mystery to it created by its seasons and its history.

I'm definitely the sporting type--->>I love soccer and everything that comes with it. They say the Aries Mars woman is just as competitive as any man...and I really am. The character I identified with most on TV was Xena, and its interesting to me that the Lucy Lawless (who played her) has an Aries Sun. We're warrior women, even in the modern day.

I've realized that I'm pretty creative too, which comes with boredom. When I have nothing to do there's always some pet-project that comes up.

I liked what Nephthys had to say about nature...I really do feel most peaceful and stress-free, and connected with everything when I'm in a natural and peaceful landscape. This can be anywhere from the open country to the beach; the beach being my favorite spot to get away to (when its not crowded).

Shall I perhaps post my whole chart? Its sounds like everything in there....LOL. I guess overall, its is my Cancer stellium, Virgo Moon/8th, Gemini Venus/5th, 12th house Stellium, strong neptune, Aries Mars, and Taurus Jupiter/5th.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Vertiver
I have an unaspected Venus in the 7th house with Taurus on the cusp.
For me, if I count "wealth" it is in the people I love and who hopefully --lol--love me.


Ami

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Nephthys
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posted August 05, 2010 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Benedict, I love history and historical fiction too!!! You sound like such a well-rounded, very interesting person!!

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Benedict Moon*
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posted August 05, 2010 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you! And here I was thinking I was just REALLY scattered...hahaha.

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