posted August 12, 2010 01:32 PM         

I made a prediction back in June to one of the guys in my office who plays stocks, that there would be a huge drop in the stock market the 1st or 2nd week in August. Now he thinks I am some sort of "Guru", since the Dow dropped 265 points on the 10th.

Aug 10, 2010
The Fed meets today, Jupiter-Neptune, and Plunder

Danny Schechter, whose documentary Plunder: The Crime of Our Time is being shown and re-shown on LINK TV these days (do catch it, if you can) has written an excellent article on the Wall Street Collapse 3 years later.

Comparing Wall Street's collapse and the current 'recovery' talking points the American public is being treated to with the BP-Gulf Oil Gusher's mysteriously disappearing oil, Mr. Schechter gives an overview of what was being written in 2007 along with his views on the topic, August 2010.

At the moment, I'm looking at a sunrise chart for 'Nixon ends debt redemption' when paying off debts became impossible, thanks to Tricky Dick and his pals. The date was August 14, 1971, in the midst of another bubbly, inflationary Great Conjunction of Jupiter and Neptune.

Here are the dates and degrees of the speculation pair's meet-up which began a new cycle of their financial scheming (they are near conjunction in the NYSE natal chart: Jupiter 22Lib57 Rx, Neptune 27Lib42 Rx in 3rd house, May 17, 1792 10:00 am LMT, NYC):

1. Feb 1, 1971 @ 2Sag47
2. May 22, 1971 @ 1Sag44
3. Sep 16, 1971 @ 00Sag37

All these early Sag degrees relate to war.

Then during Reagan's terms there was a Great Conjunction as well but only once, on January 19, 1984 @ 00Cap01 (!) I believe I've blogged on this one before in my post on Reagan's signing of the Garn-St. Germain Act when he stated, "I think we've hit the jackpot!" It was a happy Jupiter Return (15Scorpio) for Ronald Reagan and pals.

Then there was the presidency of Bill Clinton, a topic I've never properly covered here. 'His' Jupiter-Neptune conjunction occurred on Jan 9, 1997 @ 27Cap09 - conjunct US natal Pluto...tr Jup/Nep = n Pluto: far reaching speculations; plans unreasonable beyond measure; a great loss. (Ebertin.)

Well, I know President Obama's 3 conjunctions of Jupiter and Neptune in May-July-December of 2009 have been covered here ad nauseum so I won't wax on (especially since internet service goes off and on this week due to work on my neighborhood's lines) except to say that the planetary pair of speculation, bubbles, and inflation has marked the presidencies of Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama.

(Clinton's presidency also enjoyed a fabulous windfall of Jupiter and Uranus, the scientific, technological pair: Feb 16, 1997 @ 5AQ56 conjunct US natal South Node.)

But what of George W. Bush? What monetary (Jupiter) pairing marked his terms?

Plutocratic Jupiter-Pluto whose Great Conjunction of December 11, 2007 @ 28Sag24 timed one of the Fed's interest rate reduction meetings-announcements.

And they are meeting again today as I type so if they follow their usual pattern an announcement will occur today around @2:15 pm edt during a Jupiter Hour...

ASC 22Sco38 = Saturn/NN: pulling back; suffering under difficulties with others.

Sun 18Leo01 (Venus' position on 9/11/01 and the degree of the August 11, 1999 Solar Eclipse) is focal point within a Fist of God pattern with the separating Jupiter-Pluto square at its base...

Jupiter/Pluto = Sun: accumulation of personal power and influence; successful use of strong personality power; doing well with all resources; keeping things in one's own grip; the creation of magical effects. (Tyl; Ebertin; Munkasey.)

'Magical effects' for Mr. Obama to tout us into confidence? I might be okay with that if only it worked! But I fret that it's all just another bubbly scenario floating on top of toxin-infused water.

And of course, you know that the titanic Cardinal T-Square undergirds everything these days and includes today's Venus-Mars conjunction in Libra, Saturn in Libra, Jupiter 2Ari52 Rx, and Uranus 00Ari06 Rx -- all pointing toward Pluto 3Cap05 Rx in 2nd house at 2:15 pm in Washington DC.

The 9th house Moon 26AQ59 (just past last evening's New Moon in Leo) opposes both US natal Moon and tr Neptune 27AQ34 Rx which sits upon US natal Moon...fraud and lies to the people! Another Fed pronouncement is on the way...

August 11, 2010
Pluto and the Bankruptcy of America

Reagan insider: 'GOP destroyed US economy'

By Paul B. Farrell

We've arrived at a historic turning point as a nation that no longer needs outside enemies to destroy us, we are committing suicide. Democracy. Capitalism. The American dream. All dying. Why? Because of the economic decisions of the GOP the past 40 years, says this leading Reagan Republican.

(And he oughta know.)

My original post begins here:

You know when I read or hear things nowadays about the bankruptcy of the United States, I always feel the Moon on 9/11/01 at '28Gemini' = "Through Bankruptcy, Society Gives to an Overburdened Individual the Opportunity to Begin Again."

Keynote: A release from unbearable pressures, freeing one for new tasks.

The bankruptcy proceedings mentioned here should not be construed as referring to a fraudulent type of bankruptcy. At least in the United States bankruptcy does not imply a moral condemnation, tahter, it means that individual failure cannot be separated from the health of the community. The special nature of the whole is implied in the failure of the part to perform adequately under particularly harsh economic conditions. A society which enthrones the principle of ruthless competition must also develop mechanisms to exteriorize the principle of compassion.

The latter was at first emphasized by Northern Buddhism, and soon after by Christianity. The concept of atonement is directly related to that of release from unbearable economic pressures in bankruptcy.

Here we have...(a) "leaving behind," a LIBERATION FROM THE PAST.

(An Astrological Mandala, Dane Rudhyar; his italics and CAPS.)

As the media and politicians have repeated over and over since The Towers were destroyed: the world is now changed and there's no going back. And as I've stated previously in many posts, bankruptcy of the we-the-people and of the nation was perhaps the primary motive for the attacks of 9/11 (World Trade Center) - and 9/11's ripples, and the costs of the wars it supposedly justifies, have led to precisely that desired outcome.

It's meant much less money for me and you, dear reader, but lots more money for the power elite to funnel into that mysterious money hole!

Yet there's one more thing about the US being bankrupt now: the culpability of Washington politicians who should have seen it coming and governed to head it off. My deepest suspicion is that they didn't want to head it off.

Alternately, perhaps it was their own greed and dishonesty that made a higher force (represented in charts by Pluto or combinations with Pluto such as Jupiter/Pluto, etc) impossible to outwit. Financial collapse would have been forced upon the US government as a necessary trial to go through on the path to a (supposedly inevitable) New World Order.

At the very least, US politicians sold us out because they couldn't or wouldn't take a stand on the people's behalf and protect us from Pluto, The Dragon. For when you search for 'where all the money went', first check Pluto's lair, is my best advice.

So are we still America, Land of the Free? Bosh! Check out the numbers of the current prison population in the US and you'll soon find that to be quite a massive fallacy, another empty 'dream' politicans and propagandists sold us as long as it was useful to them.

As I often say, America is my only nag in the race. Now I must add: in spite of how they've hobbled her!

So that's what I think in a nutshell. What do you think?

posted August 12, 2010 01:39 PM         

Pluto will take the knees out from under you if its whats really needed.

Because you cant learn the easy way.

*You is in a broadsense of people, actions, events,circumstances,fate you name it. All energies work in unison including pluto,

It has its place and acts accordingly to its nature.

Its energy will be carried out, the same as all the rest.

The smartest people will always be able to ride the wave, see events and circumstances repeating themselves and act according to have a different outcome than before.

This is pluto weeding out the weak. Sorry Its life and This is one of its many processes.

Humans only think we are immune to nature.. LOL

**my viewpoint

Aids is another way nature tries to cut us back. What better way to decrease a species than its reproductive ability.

Smart people use condoms or get tested, dummies get aids. Nature killing off the weaker with this,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunodeficiency

Id say pluto rules that too. Nature gives all life and takes all life, do you see how pluto is needed if its gonna take life?

posted August 12, 2010 02:25 PM         

Im not your enemy

I see the ugliness and try not to let it bother me.

posted August 12, 2010 02:49 PM         

OFF TOPIC:
i believe that the "aids/hiv epidemic" is a conspiracy. (see www.virusmyth.com + many videos esp one by gary null) that 1. its not "they" are saying it is, 2. "they" don't really know what it is and 3. anti-retroviral drugs are deadly.

posted August 12, 2010 02:51 PM         

However, I will agree with you that it is meant to wipe out the lesser species in one way or another. Given that homosexuals and blacks are most prone to the disease. I find it rather strange that we cannot 'find' a cure for AIDS. But why would we want to? Our world is already overpopulated as it is; same with Cancer.

Anyway, I think people if Africa are more prone to getting AIDS because they are in the Global South. If that means they are dummies than ok, but it's not so simple.

posted August 12, 2010 02:55 PM         

On the contrary its usually f--ked up parents that had the disease and as such gave it to the child.

Who is at fault? The parents are, They are DUMMIES. Now the child pays for the rest of its life.

Cause and effect.. what did the parents think was gonna happen raspberri?

tell me your answer please?

posted August 12, 2010 03:00 PM         

Are you saying thay whoever obtained this disease first is a Dummy?

Just be more rational. I was simply invalidating your ridiculous dummy statement.

posted August 12, 2010 03:06 PM         

If a child is born with aids he cant be held at fault.

If two people _man woman..man man..woman woman whatever, who knowing have it and are spreading it then i classify them as dummies.

because they get a life threating disease, knowingly.

We already know whats gonna happen right?

People who smoke are told it gives cancer, even on the package.

And when the doctor tells them they have cancer they are shocked..

posted August 12, 2010 03:14 PM         

Of course, anyone in their right mind wouldn't knowingly spread their problem to others. But unfortunately most people don't know they have it.

posted August 12, 2010 03:21 PM         

You can keep it, its for free.

You are correct about people not knowing, That is why i say the smart ones use condems or get tested.

The not so bright may or may not know.. but do it anyway with no protection.

They have failed.

That same principle can be applied to the banking sector, People invested in things they shouldnt have, so did the government.

You really do reap what you sow in life people.

posted August 12, 2010 08:28 PM         

the attitude that someone or something is infalliable...thats the kind of thinking pluto comes to shatter. jave u had a pluto transit? pluto has been in orb conjunct my ascendant for almost 2 years. also square my moon. i know its powers all too well. NOTHING & NO ONE IS INDESTRUCTIBLE...even america that is what pluto teaches!

posted August 12, 2010 09:11 PM         

2012 and the new world order is all about a bankrupt world. Conspiracists of course would say 'new world order is a one world currency. This is same result; different angle

posted August 12, 2010 10:10 PM         

The aids reference, i was pointing to a greater problem in human behavior. Not just aids or hows its contracted or what conspiracy made it up

**if thats your view, its ok with me im just stating mine**

EM is right, pluto teaches the way he stated.

Thats its purpose in nature.

I see any disease or sickness as a pluto transit, also bad times, poor results etc. Pluto will expose any weakness.

Nature will make a species stronger or it will die.

An ant species in the amazon will contract an unexplainable fungus that will kill most of the colony when it grows to large,

posted August 12, 2010 11:15 PM         

but it is certainly not just the US - any country with heavy capricorn (i believe that involves britain amongst others) is going through this, and in fact with the cardinal t-square in effect now, MOST of the world.

so i would say it is not the USA that is bankrupt but the whole system. and because it is pluto's hand we are seeing i would suggest that while it may feel like hell/death throes, something much better is in the wings.

posted August 13, 2010 12:49 AM         

People should research the M3 data of US Dollars printed without any backing. The current value of the dollar fiat currency is less than 5 cents. And yet, every American citizen owes more than 10,000 over-valued dollars as interest due to internal debt to the Federal Reserve. This debt is illegal.
There was no authority to charge interest on currency printed on home soil by using citizen's assets. The Law was passed shadily in 1913.

I have been suggesting since 2007 to buy Gold and Silver, they have given 200-300% returns but in reality, they retain infinite value as compared to fiat currencies.
Everyone should own a kilo of silver as coins or ingots to tide over any economic crisis.

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posted August 13, 2010 03:46 AM         

Media really is effective and false.