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Lioness
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posted August 17, 2010 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Ever have way to much Neptune in a relationship with some one?

Talk about alot of confusion and seeing each other incorrectly... I know I have told him so many times you dont really know me or see me accurately... But he wont believe me.. I think he see's the worse in me...

Synastry me to him
Sun Trine Neptune 3.38 52
Neptune Square Sun 1.50 -111
Neptune Conjunction Moon 3.35 93
Neptune Trine Jupiter 1.41 51
Neptune Trine Midheaven 1.38 25

My Neptune in his 5th
His Neptune in my 9th


Composite:
Neptune in the 7th
Neptune trine Venus
Neptune sextile MC
Neptune sextile Jupiter,Pluto,Moon

Way to much Neptune??

I know we both see each other incorrectly.

I do feel the spiritual connection(or Im delusional)

I do up his moods, and what he's wanting ALOT! I feel as if he calls me telepathically (again delusional???)

We do "talk" with our eyes.. I just know what he's telling me.. (only when he's trying to tell me, but not when he's not)

Have I lost my mind here... Im not sure what's real or not..
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Also I NOW think, that I am the one thats hurting him??? Have I been that blind??

His Moon sq my Mars
His venus sq my Uranus..
His Mars in my 12th (along with other planets)
My Venus in his 12th.


I do keep trying to take off on him.. I have tried several times to get away from him.. (only because of the emotions) but I do end up going back... Or something happens and he comes to me.. After a long time..

I feel as if he's rejecting me.. Could I be the one rejecting him? Am I the cause of this mess?? Have I been totally blind to him?
I even wanted to call him today, to tell him not to contact me anymore... LOL.. I didnt.. But I really did think about it!

Right now Transit Chiron is Conjunct his Sun.
Am I a wound???

Am I delusional??? Boy this is really confusing...

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Ami Ann
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posted August 18, 2010 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Just looking at the Neptune,now (cuz I am tired lol)-YOU would be the one looking through rose colored glasses.
That is my limited experience with Neptune in synastry based on one person who has HIS Neptune on MY ASC . He sees me through rose colored glasses.
It is an exact conjunction.
I don't see him this way.


Ami

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DD
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posted August 18, 2010 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes,
ASC is passive in the way that the ASC is just being there and hardly knowing WHAT he is doing to others.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 18, 2010 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you (((DD)))

I was just coming back to ask that about the ASC versus a planet.

I HAVE a Venus/Neptune opposition in synastry now and it is totally different.

I feel that I, as the Venus, see him, as the Neptune in a beautiful ,rose colored way.

Perhaps, the Neptune does ,too.

I cannot say cuz *I* am the Venus.
What do you think about this ,DD?

Thanks so much,
Ami

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Ami Ann
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posted August 18, 2010 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message

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His Moon sq my Mars
His venus sq my Uranus..
His Mars in my 12th (along with other planets)
My Venus in his 12th.

Dear Lioness,

I am gonna look up these aspects and get back.
How are your Mercury's together?
It seems like you cannot communicate.
You seem stuck in that you cannot deal with the elephant in the living room in a direct, up front way.

Ami

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Lioness
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posted August 18, 2010 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Yes I do know I see him through rose colored glasses.. This is a person that can do no wrong :O I'm the bad one here..

I do see his faults yet, they dont bother me in any way.... lol

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Ami.. Thanks
His Merc in Pisces in my 12th
Mine in Leo in his 2nd
We both have Saturn in the 3rd.

Our merc dont touch each other...

So yeah neither of us is saying a damn thing...

In the composite Sun conjunct Merc in the 1st and then both opposite Mars..

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Ami Ann
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posted August 18, 2010 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I don't do composites

x o Ami
PS Do you REALLY want to make something work with this man?
Is that your goal or do you want to get away and try to forget him?

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Lioness
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posted August 18, 2010 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Ami Good Question... I do... but I get scared and I take off.. But then I go back.. I want to run, but cant.... I feel kinda stuck.. but yet I want him...

Its that moon/Pluto/Venus thats killing me...

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Ami Ann
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posted August 18, 2010 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
OK,Lioness

I am not very good,as I always say but I am gonna look up your aspects cuz maybe there is a way to bridge the Mercury issue.

That seems like the main issue here presenting a brick wall to all else.

It seems like water in a dam. You can't appreciate anything else i.e other good aspects cuz the Mercury's are blocking them i.e you can not talk/communicate.
Can this be overcome--I wonder?
I wonder what other people think?

Ami


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Lioness
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posted August 18, 2010 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
We do talk alot, and he knows my secrets.. His moon in my 8th..

What we can't talk about is our feelings..
Anything else we can talk about..

One time he did open up, and I said nothing.. I went blank... I was shocked I didnt know what to say... LOL

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Ami Ann
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posted August 18, 2010 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
What planets do you have in each other's 12th house?
What are your moon aspects in synastry--not more than 4 degrees?

Ami
PS Lioness--do YOU have access to your own emotions?
Maybe, that is a part of the problem that you have the ability to address.
PPS What I am saying is "Have you ever been really vulnerable with him and let him know your true feelings?"

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Mblake81
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posted August 18, 2010 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
From my pov,

Deep meaning if you two can stick together, Plenty of ups and downs.

Like a ride.

It will only get confusing or harmful if you have too many blockages, then watch out for any pluto energy coming your way.

Kablooie, OR Maybe not. It really depends on how you are/have been experiencing the whole relationship. Ever notice how one person can see a bad thing, but the other can see a right? Its like that, learn from each other

It would take two deeply devoted people to hang on,

*speaking my mind

Have a Great Day

**can go into outer space or to the landfill, do you two want to experience this bad or do you want to use it to grow?**

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Lioness
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posted August 18, 2010 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Mblake.. Yeah you pretty much nailed it.. Its tough..


Ami..
In my 12 is his Mars,Sun,Merc
In his 12th is my Saturn,Venus

Lioness Aspect m Orb/Value
Sun Trine Neptune 3.38 52
Venus Trine Sun 1.37 153
Mars Square Moon 2.50 -121
Mars Opposition Mars 2.29 -66
Jupiter Sextile Sun 1.47 76
Saturn Opposition Neptune 2.12 -44
Saturn Trine Pluto 0.58 50
Uranus Square Venus 1.11 -107
Uranus Conjunction Pluto 3.49 55
Neptune Square Sun 1.49 -112
Neptune Conjunction Moon 3.25 96
Neptune Trine Jupiter 1.41 51
Neptune Trine Midheaven 3.17 18
Pluto Sextile Moon 1.12 56
Pluto Sextile Jupiter 0.32 52

We also have alot of quinx
his sun quinx my pluto
his venus quix my sun,moon
my venus quinx his moon

The thing that I notice, we have alot of the same aspects in our natal charts.
venus sq pluto
saturn in the 3rd
sun conj merc
moon in the 5th
I forget what else

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Ami Ann
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posted August 18, 2010 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
OK, Lioness
I am gonna think on it today

Ami

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Lioness
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posted August 18, 2010 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Ami..

I know the synastry doesnt make sense why I should feel this way.. Its the composite (I know u dont do) its intense..

ALso I forgot to add
his MC conjunct my Asc/ DC/IC
My Pluto conjunct his IC
my venus/IC sq his MC
my jupiter sq his MC
his moon trine my asc

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Ami Ann
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posted August 20, 2010 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Lioness
I have not forgotten about your thread. I want to think about it !


X Ami

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Lioness
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posted August 20, 2010 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
No worries hon....

I've been also looking into it... Maybe its the transit Saturn in my 7th or Mercury Rx.. But I have been going over every thing in my head, and researching.

Some things are starting to make sense now.. Maybe..

We both have saturn in the 3rd.. So neither of us well say anything..
We also have a DW NN parallel.. Mercury/Psyche..

So one of us is gonna have to give.. We are both going to have to learn about our and change our communication which may or may affect of psyche?????? IDK...

I also now see that I am the one that has been taking off on him..... HE never tried to leave, its been me running.. Then I am the one that goes back like nothing..

Yet I have been blaming him.. sighhhhh.....
I take off to get a grip, to detach myself, to figure things out... But when I do the obsession hits me.... Last week he showed up at my house unexpected.. My Monday I was wigging out,and ready to tell him again I couldnt have any more contact with him..

Only I got a grip and realized it was me, that's causing the roller coaster... I just don't know how to overcome it.. He's probably fed up with me by now... LOL

Your right Im not prepared for these emotions.. It's very hard for me to
understand.. Maybe its because he hits my 12th pretty hard with his Stellium... Its very scary...

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posted August 20, 2010 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lioness
I am here. I am psychic and I am trying to tune in to you and him
I DID think YOU needed to look within.
That is good and confirms that I am feeling it right.
I am trying to tune in to it more.
I will do my best.
What comes --comes. I can't make it.

Ami
PS It seems like you both want to connect but the bridge is missing or weak.
Have you ever put up the synastry?
If so, try to put up the degrees.

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Lioness
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posted August 20, 2010 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Ami..

I will put up the synastry tomorrow.. I dot have alot of time right now...

He did text me, right after I posted my last message...

Im making a huge effort to not be so flaky with him... LOL.... Maybe its working he did text me...

Im not ready to tell him anything.. Right now I cant risk it.. Plus I know he doesnt trust me bc of some misunderstandings.. so first I need to get those cleared up...

I did clear up one.. last week

sighhhhh..... Ami I have never experienced this level of emotions.. I just need to understand things first before I can do anything... His effect on me is powerful...

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posted August 20, 2010 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
I have a couple synastry aspects with Neptune with the current relationship I have been studying...

Me to Him

Sun conj Neptune
Neptune Trine Venus
Neptune sextile Mercury (which it's probably not a romantic aspect)
Neptune inconj both of ours Moon's
Neptune conj Eros
Psyche conj Neptune (really wanting to see how the Neptunes playing out with Psyche conj Eros- it probably can't be anything less than amazing- but that might be me looking thru my rose tinted glasses)

We have been watching each other from afar for the last 8 yrs (before then we were just really close friends that couldn't do anything wrong to each other) but it turned romantic this year and we both freaked out but we are on the verge of starting to talk again- started to send emails just saying hi and how are you- nothing complex. Makes me wonder what rabbit hole it's going to go down this time. lol

I have no clue if I'm seeing him right at all, he did something completely put of 'character' and it broke my heart... all I kept saying... this can't be the true him. I'm still saying it.... But we have Moon's conj each other and DW Venus Trine Sun so it's only time we forgive each other...

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posted August 21, 2010 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Yes,Lioness
I get that you should go slowly.
If you could put up both natals and the synastry, that would help.
Emotions with Pluto are tidal waves
There is no other way to say it.
You are right to try to think as clearly as you can before you jump in to action.
Discussing it on here, looking at the charts, looking at your own part in it etc is the best course.
I think you are starting to go in the right direction,now.

Ami

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posted August 21, 2010 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message

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Ami Ann
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posted August 21, 2010 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Racole
Is this your elusive Pisces guy ?

x o Ami

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Ami Ann
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posted August 21, 2010 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Popcorn
When I hear you describe Neptune, I can feel it in what you are saying.
If Pluto is the harshness in the world, Neptune is the beauty lol


x o x Ami

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posted August 21, 2010 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Ok Ami here you go.. Ami could I email you and tell you some things privately?

Synastry.. Im on the inside
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My natal

His Natal
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