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Topic: Unaspected Planets--Curse/Blessing
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Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 07:00 PM
UNASPECTED NEPTUNEBy its own very nature, Neptune tends towards withdrawal, seclusion, and privacy. It prefers to remain absorbed in the inner worlds of consciousness and has a harder time adjusting itself to manifesting in concrete,solid terms. The more aspects it has, the more likely it is to be challenged to manifest itself thru external experience, regardless of the level or quality shown. It is forced to come out of its closet, so to speak. Unaspected Neptune could perhaps represent a most passive condition for this other-worldly planet. Without the driving stimulus provided by aspect contacts, this unstimulated Neptune could encourage the individual to keep his search for ultimate emotional ideals to himself rather than develop them in the environment. He may be able to find inner comfort and tranquility by creating beautiful images within the realm of his fertile but unplowed imagination. Neptune's fantasy ability could be markedly powerful and intense, since this faculy does not necessarily have to be supported thru active involvement with the environment to operate. But imagination,fantasy,revelation,and inspired vision all tend to have few tangible avenues for their expression,unlike heavily-aspected Neptune. Dreams may thus seem quite unattainable for this individual. Normally, the less active Neptune is in the chart, the less the individual is prone to act in a way that promotes self-deception (illusions here could be described as self-contained. And those that exist may be found manifesting according to the affairs of Neptune's position.) When unaspected, Neptune is not able to directly influence the drives of the remaining planets, denying them the benefit of spiritual insight. For some, this means a more material world view devoid of visions of ultimate perfection and unity. The individual may have a harder time believing in miracles, and thus is less able to directly experience or recognize them. Nevertheless, he is less apt to feel confused or disoriented with the world he does give credence to. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 07:07 PM
Unaspected Venus This Venus can be quite undemonstrative, although quite reactive on more subjective levels. While the individual may feel quite divorced from receiving the common pleasures of social interaction (making him more of an observer rather than a participator in social functions),he still may attain intense satisfaction from an exclusively valued area of his personal life, usually indicated by Venus' house position. He may be able to internally balance himself in this area and achieve a sense of inner harmony that can seldom be acquired thru the usual external Venus activities.
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Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 07:07 PM
UNASPECTED MERCURYLike the Moon, Mercury is another planet that benefits from a variety of aspect connections with other planets (although, considering its abstract nature, it is less dependent in this context). Representing the principle of clear, unbiased objectivity, Mercury can be a neutral influence. It does, however, function more effectively when it is able to combine itself with other planets, since it develops best thru the stimulation of a diversity of influences. Mercury is energized to further express its innate potential due to its curiosity about what is unfamiliar (it is driven to want to know how all of life works). Other planets can provide Mercury with the essential learning experiences it eagerly seeks out. But unaspected Mercury, lacking in this educational opportunity, could represent one whose mental development is seldom well-rounded. Although the mind often is quite powerful and capable, it can become one-tracked in its application. And while the individual may be able to intelligently gather information in areas that attract his interest (indicated by Mercury's natal placement), he may not comprehend as much about himself. Mercury offers us the ability to apply the light of reason to all facets of our human nature, at least in a manner that prompts us to question our impulses. One with unaspected Mercury might be less driven to direct his mental power towards the observation and analysis of the other components of his personality. Thus, these other parts of his psyche are unlikely to develop and express themselves thru the benefit of logical, objective evaluation (unless they fall in Mercury-ruled signs and/or houses). However, the individual can exhibit an extraordinary mental facility in a singular area of life, suggested by its placement. What is perhaps beneficial about unaspected Mercury, unlike a heavily aspected one, is that it is less inclined to become scattered (since it is not being simulataneously activated in a multitude of areas). Yet, by being less diversified, this type of mind could become less flexible and adaptable to change (and especially so if posited in fixed sign). The individual is less inclined to weigh all sides of an issue, since he is less familiar with all sides. Not necessarily stubborn or rigid, unaspected Mercury is simply not as prone towards recognizing options and alternatives of thought, as would be a well-aspected Mercury. According to Dean's study, the urge to communicate is unlikely to be diminished. Yet it does appear to operate in spurtlike activity(although often in a brilliant manner), in which the individual can appear hyperactive (mentally and verbally). For the most part, I'd imagine the individual feels isolated and disintegrated on the mental IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 07:08 PM
UNASPECTED MOONIn my opinion, the moon (representing the receptive,nurturing principle) is one planet that needs to connect itself with other planets in order to function properly. The Moon deals with the drive to attach, and to absorb energy thru such attachment. Aspects to the Moon help condition the individual to make constant functional adaptations within his immediate surroundings, allowing him to adjust his center continuously in order to effectively cope with the stresses of the environment (the Moon is the natural helpmate of the Sun in this regard). But when unaspected, this isolated Moon inclines the individual to feel an unnatural sense of disconnection with the immediate environment, especially on the emotional level. Perhaps the individual has difficulty acclimating himself to any environment over a long period of time, and therefore appears restless,unsettled,and very much not at home with his current conditions. He may undergo spurtlike periods in which restlessness greatly accelerates and moods change rapidly, resulting colored and given definitive structure by the other planets. Without aspects, the Moon would remain formless and indistinct as a process of personality. Plus other components of our nature (shown by the remaining planets) would be less able to be nurtured and supported by natural, protective instincts. The individual may show a less caring concern for the development of those other parts of his nature. With an unaspected Moon, the individual's feeling nature is not necessarily weakened, but is less able be demonstrated on the surface. But since emotionls are less likely to be evoked and openly expressed to any notable extent, this person may be at a loss in trying to recognize what triggers them into action(since aspects to the Moon help us objectify and pinpoint our needs rather than keep them buried and indefinable). In Dean's study, he found that the psychological effects of an unaspected Moon "could be the most personally traumatic of any planet. Obviously, since the Moon helps an individual feel sheltered, secure, and nourished within his environment, one with an unaspected Moon could feel markedly unstabilized or uncommonly vulnerable, which could be traumatizing. It would seem reasonable that this solitary Moon could accentuate the lunar principles of enclosure and insulation, suggesting that the individual tends to overly contain his feelings and impressions rather than allow them to freely interact with other facets of his nature. And since underdeveloped due to a lack of active expression, they may remain in a state of immaturity. While one's range of open emotional expression can be diminished, there still can be great intensity of feeling and concern in the area of the chart where the Moon IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 07:09 PM
UNASPECTED SUNEugene Moore's interpreation that is unaspected Sun individual behaves like an island-unto-himself type seems right to me. When unaspected, the Sun's autonomous,self-governing nature can be even more emphasized. This condition should accentuate an independent spirit, but not always in a wholesome, well-balanced manner. A heavily aspected Sun natally would suggest one who is driven to gain recognition and honor in the external world. thru a vibrant, confident display of one's abilities. Such an individual makes an effort to attract attention and be openly admired or praisedddd for his achievements in order to feel ego-fulfilled. Thus, he consciously attempts to radiate his energies in a manner insuring a direct impact upon his environment. However, the unaspected Sun individual seems less driven to exteriorize himself. He appears less overtly glory-seeking,and thus makes little effort to secure center-stage positioning. Nevertheless, he is motivated to focus upon his own self-importance, holding himself in high regard. Self-esteem and self-pride are important to him, whether reinforced by his environment or not. As his strength and integrity come from a subjective source, he is less dependent upon outer relationships for ego-support. He can be very rooted within his own inner core of being, regardless of how unstable or chaotic his external surroundings are. Such intense self-centeredness may make him appear unresponsive and aloof, almost as he is totally absorbed within his own self-made world. The inner nature does not associate itself very well with other facets of the character, determined by the other planets. Thus one's individuality is seldom stimulated into full expression, although it may e one-pointedly evident in a singular area of one's life. Planets connected with the Sun by aspect gain a greater sense of their own purposeful strength. Being thus tied in with one's vital ego structure, they are brought more into conscious, creative expression and given a firmer sense of direction thru the positive active of the will. With an unaspected Sun, the remaining planets still function, but without a dominant central life theme to revolve around. They neither help nor hinder the individual's main objectives, but only because they are not directly related to such objectives. Perhaps the drives of these planets are forced to take the back seat, in which they are experienced as mere secondary needs given less attention and development. Instead, the individual may be more intent upon the exclusive development of his pure solar characteristics. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 07:12 PM
Please comment on your unaspected planet. Add house and sign, too, if you care to. Also, if your planet rules a house and is in a different house, please add that. (I am just starting to make sense of this. I guess this is house rulers) Ami ------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 07:14 PM
DD - quote: I consider every planet that does not have major aspects under 7 degrees (sextile: 5 degrees) as peregrine. Actually I prefer an orb of 5 degree for all aspects.
Wouldn't you look at the aspect, in its context though? The Moon is dignified in Cancer. Therefore it is the dispositor for her Mars anyway. That strengthens the link in my experience. Ami - I think Moon/Mars seems to make sense for the problems you had/have with your M, since the Moon represents the mother. A Cancer Moon, on its own - should be a traditionally pleasant placement. But Mars is an "aggressive" planet that feels a bit uneasy in Cancer, so that can put a different spin on things and on your perception of your M (in particular while you were growing up) :edit: I'll make a new thread for the rest of what I said, because its off topic (and it relates to sooooooo many knowflakes who do this). The gist was: It is irrelevant what one astrologer or another thinks. What is relevant is what you believe *fits*. IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 07:16 PM
Thank You for posting all of those interpretations Ami!IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 08:26 PM
Thank you for appreciating it, Dyn-a To address your point on the other thread lol. I feel like I have an unaspected moon. Some people think you cannot feel placements but I think I can. When I read about the unaspected moon, that explains my life much more than the moon/mars conjunction. I am trying to wrap my brain around the unaspected moon. It is very hard for me to attach to people. I am social ,etc and do not appear to be this way. People close to me are surprised when I tell them but it is true. The last person I attached to was my grandmother, children and now the person you know whom I care for deeply . The unaspected moon is my life story. After that, the unaspected Venus is my second life story lol Ami PS Dyn-a The rest of the story IS told in the house placements and sign placements cuz I have many gifts in these. I need to integrate the whole picture. Then, I feel I will have a snapshot/blueprint of my life. THANK YOU FOR CARING! It means so ,very much to me. You will always have a place in my heart for all you have given me. Many of your words come in to my head now as I am trying to figure out things lol ------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
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posted August 18, 2010 08:42 PM
Lol this explains why I want sex ten times a day my mars is too energized. My sun/moon midpoint is on my mars (exact) which is another energy aspect I guess and my Gemini moon just gives me the last special unique spice to make me a nut case with endless energy IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 08:49 PM
When you have an unaspected planet the house, sign and house rulers are of paramount importance cuz there are no aspects. I am very fortunate in this area---very, I think. This would be a mitigating factor to the difficulty of the unaspected planet. So, I have moon in Cancer in the 8th house. I know this must be part of why I must did to the very bottom of emotional issues. The 8th house makes you like a detective. You can't stop until you have the answers to your own satisfaction, I don't think. I don't think I can stop and still be true to myself. I think the moon being in Cancer is a wonderful place for it. That part feels like a warm fuzzy. The moon in Cancer feels good inside like warm muffins taken out of the oven with a cup of tea lol It is a fortunate place for your heart and your emotions. I think WHEN I do attach, that person and I do have a very special heart bond. To me, it is very precious cuz it is rare. I think I would do most anything for the people I let in to my heart so that is good, too. I think when I do integrate as much of the unaspected moon as I can, it will be a treasure as unaspected planets are you when you integrate them. Ami
------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 08:53 PM
Dear Belgz I have to commend you on ALWAYS finding the right icon  x o x Ami PS Where is your Mars--sign and house ------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 09:05 PM
My unaspected Gemini Venus is exalted by house. It is in the 7th house with Taurus on the cusp. I feel very Venus -like in how I express myself but it is rare for someone to enter my heart. That is why I thought there was something wrong with me as my mother always told me . In fact, when girls were crying over boyfriends, I never did. I prided myself on that. I thought it was silly to get so upset over a guy. Little did I know that there was something wrong with me if you want to call the unaspected Venus wrong lol It is not wrong. It just is.The few times I attach, I attach deeply so it makes it all the more precious to me. In fact, every tear that I cry cuz I love someone is a gift cuz I care and I can feel. I don't think maybe people could understand who don't have this but you have an aloofness, inside. It does not show but you feel detached from emotions like you live outside them. Well, since I have moon and Venus, I don't know which one is which lol but when I love , it is very precious to me and I don't bemoan any parts of it even if it does not work out. Ami
------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair.
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2010 09:16 PM
I have Bill Tierney's book that you quoting from.------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 09:31 PM
Ami - quote: When I read about the unaspected moon, THAT explains my life much more than the moon/mars conjunction.
My point in the other thread is - that these two things: 1. The unaspected Moon interpretation. 2. The Moon/Mars interpretation.. Do not rule each other out. In astrology they DO - because you cannot have an unaspected planet that is IN aspect to another point. But they shouldn't rule each other out in your life. If you can take something from both of these interpretations that rings true and helps - that's great! You don't have to pick one. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 09:39 PM
Ok ,Dyna--this is how I could integrate it lol. I could not attach (unaspected moon) and if I tried to, she made war on me (Moon conjunct Mars)Actually--that fits  x o x Ami ------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 09:43 PM
Dear Raymond Which house is your unaspected Uranus in. I know you told me but I forgot---sorry. Ami ------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2010 09:48 PM
Ami Ann,My unaspected Uranus is in 2nd house ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 18, 2010 10:06 PM
quote: Lol this explains why I want sex ten times a day my mars is too energized. My sun/moon midpoint is on my mars (exact) which is another energy aspect I guess and my Gemini moon just gives me the last special unique spice to make me a nut case with endless energy
This is Mother Ami's prescription for your love life. Find a guy with an unaspected Mars.  When you are not killing each other, you will be making love. Ami ------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
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posted August 20, 2010 03:17 PM
I am convinced that integrating unaspected planets is crucial for a person. It is like a dangling part,a dangling leg lol. How can you go forward without it? You can but you will be missing a piece. I am JUST starting to integrate my Venus. It feels like I am coming home cuz it was a lost home inside of me.I would love to hear people's experiences with unaspected planets. I will write more, later. Ami ------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 3078 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 09, 2011 08:38 AM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 09, 2011 08:49 AM
Sand Darling I glanced at your chart in PR.I don't think you have an unaspected Uranus. Check it again
------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 3078 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 09, 2011 09:19 AM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 09, 2011 09:24 AM
OK I thought I saw a major one when I looked but if not, then I was wrong  ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 3078 From: Registered: May 2011
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