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Topic: the moon in aries: independence/dependence...
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electricmind Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 01:53 PM
there are several people that i can think of on LL who have moon in aries.most descriptions of aries i read say that aries despise weakness or the appearance of weakness. they hate to feel like they are dependent on someone. independence and constant affirmation of ego boundaries is important. my question is, for those of you who have moon in aries or know people with this placement, how does this manifest in your relationships? both platonic and romantic. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 04:30 PM
One of my exes had an aries moon... he was fiery n really impulsive- would drive nuts. Im quite libra so it irked me alot. IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 04:31 PM
what was his sun sign?IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 04:31 PM
One of my exes had an aries moon... he was fiery n really impulsive- would drive nuts. Im quite libra so it irked me alot. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 04:32 PM
One of my exes had an aries moon... he was fiery n really impulsive- would drive nuts. Im quite libra so it irked me alot. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 04:40 PM
oops writing this on my cell... lol. he ws a cappy sun n mercury, sag venus n scorp mars. Im a virgo sun, lib moon, merc n venus lol n virgo mars. Im not impulsve in any sense so hs lack of patience n rash nature were partially why i broke up with him twice..we lasted 9 months, he was really into me but too clingy. IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 04:42 PM
thats interesting. i've got ascendant, mercury, venus, jupiter and neptune in capricorn. i've also got mars in scorpio.i never would think of capricorn as impulsive. and impulsive people bother me. i don't see myself as impulsive...maybe free spirited but never without a plan. IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1109 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 04:46 PM
I have Aries Moon too. I despise weakness only if someone is fine to be weak, as in not trying to do anything for it and even being self-victimizing/pitying. Everyone has their weak sides, so I see weaknesses as normal things, not really that bad at all. I don't see dependence as weakness, unless it's too much. On the other hand, too much independence can be a bad thing too. In relationships, I think that it's normal to have co-dependence. It's actually a good thing that we can depend on each other, as long as the dependence is healthy (like not losing our own sense of identity or life).In my case, I'm kinda dependent, although I also need my own time to do my own stuffs when I feel like. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 04:52 PM
I think a man's moon is a better indication of his nature... aries + scorp= woah n arent sags like that too? IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 05:19 PM
@comica23i read someone that fire signs constantly need to reassert ego boundaries. so, for example, if an aries moon feels itself getting to close or dependent, it will do something to affirm separateness... that could be starting an argument or being apart of on/off relationships. i know that i just get bored. there is something about aries moon that likes challenge and chase. and the moon rules my 7th house so i feel like i need that in my relationships. this usually manifests itself as combativeness or creating challenges. i'm sure there is a better way to express that energy with out destroy my relationships...still figuring that out. my aqua sun is touch and go as it is. with my sun/moon configuration, i don't know if i am meant for longterm relationships. my longest one was 2+ years and it was dramatic and firey and breakup to make up all the time. (the ex is an aries sun, sagittarius moon and leo rising with venus in aries. HOT FIRE!!!!) IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 05:53 PM
do you find that your aries moon has a short emotional memory?i find it impossible to hold a grudge. like if someone treats me in a bad way, i have to consciously remind myself what they did. like force myself to be angry or upset so that i can not put myself in the same situation. it could be my moon neptune square or moon jupiter square or moon ascendant square LOL. IP: Logged |
changchiu Knowflake Posts: 420 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 02:15 PM
Dear electricmind;I have also moon in aries.. Sun Scorpio and ASC Saggy..Venus in Libra.. I have always duality..One side of mine always seek for equality in relation due to venus libra..But for my emotions always fiery,leader and independent....I dont like dependent men.I am dominant in my relations except a ex-one who is Aries sun man.. For platonic I can not hide my feeling I am an impulsing girl,always on move.. Hýmm and I atract % 80 aqua..I only sun conj uranus.but north node on leo.. I see dependent and indeciv. as a weakness and always argue that type people.. Ans also my moon aries in 4 th house..That placement is challange,sometimes it can be hard for me.. With love.. Chang.. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4318 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 02:21 PM
changchiu,Your Moon is very strongly modified by the conjunction to transneptunian dwarf planet Eris with 5 minutes of arc. For people that have Moon in Aries, I'd check to see if there is a conjunction to Eris which has been in Aries since the 1920's
Then there would be themes of diversity,equality,discord,controversy as a transneptunian dwarf planet, Eris also has to do with evolutionary intensification,metaphysical orientation,and highly nonconformist (especially considering its highly elliptical orbit as a scattered disk object) ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 456 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted August 21, 2010 02:23 PM
I have Sun in Sag, Moon in Taurus... I'm fiercely independent and if a relationship jeopardizes this I will end the relationship... IP: Logged |
changchiu Knowflake Posts: 420 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 02:40 PM
Glaucus Metaphysical orientation..that is the point what I feel last times and I live..Electricmind; Also I can not hold grudge..I easily get anger but just a flame..5 min later I forget and talk that person..everyone surprises.. IP: Logged |
hippichick Knowflake Posts: 446 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 02:47 PM
x bf pisces sun had an arian moon and lots more in aries, including asc.he was the most dependent individual i have ever met! had a massive heart attack at 41 (now 49) on disability, pacemaker dependent, relies on dad to give him gift cards to eat, dad purchased him a car, he goes to dads to wash clothes, get on the net...etc. the most DEPENDENT individual i have EVER met! and it is not his fish sun, cause i am one and i am so, so not dependent on anybody. he could not hold his own and i think more and more he had his heart attack (metaphysically speaking) to gain attention.. now, my eldest with an aries sun and a whole lot of pisces, including asc and moon, is fiercely independent...drives me crazy sometimes how independent she is!!! IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 02:52 PM
@hippichickdo u know the ex bf's rising sign? a lot of people never grow out of that or through tht... IP: Logged |
hippichick Knowflake Posts: 446 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 03:45 PM
as i stated, his asc is in aries, and his moon and his venus...and sheeaaattt, dont want to recall anymore.aqua is way, way more of an independent sign than aries, the "babies" of the zodiac are just that... t~~~ IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 03:49 PM
i know someone with an aries ascendent, pisces moon, aqua sun. it seems as if she is always creating scenarios where she is dependent on someone...not casually, like life or death dependent. maybe aries ascendants were encouraged to be childlike..maybe infantile behavior was rewarded.although, the other side of aries is the hero/heroine. not sure how that plays out in the ascendent... IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1109 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 03:59 PM
quote: i read someone that fire signs constantly need to reassert ego boundaries. so, for example, if an aries moon feels itself getting to close or dependent, it will do something to affirm separateness... that could be starting an argument or being apart of on/off relationships.
I guess that this can happen if the Aries person is insecure about his/her own sense of identity/independence and/or about the relationship itself.IP: Logged |
hippichick Knowflake Posts: 446 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 04:09 PM
I think Aries, which, obvioiulsy I have had some experience with, is a "fresh" energy...Like babes, just want go out there and learn!!!And I meant no offense to the Ariens here, just in my experience, those with the Arien vibe are not as independent as one would think. I know a lovely Scorpio lady..most things in Scorp, she has an Aries asc and she is one of the most independent lady one would ever want to meet! So, maybe independence is not the correct interpertation of the Arien energy, maybe that of newness and seeking and openess to all... t~~~ IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 04:13 PM
newness. fresh. those are definitely words that i would use to describe my lunar nature. as well as to describe aries that i know. getting bored is a big thing for me. in relationships, with jobs, with ideas and routine. eek! get me out of all of those things...they just reek of the stench of boredom. IP: Logged |
hippichick Knowflake Posts: 446 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 04:18 PM
it is kind of like a babe....pulling herself up on things, being obstinant, defiant to her parents, getting out in the world...some would say "independent" i would say exploring! what a great thread!!! IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 1546 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 04:21 PM
I can see the newness and freshness - I love to learn new things. (Aries Sun here.)I used to be very independent, but I'm not in a position to be now - I have lost a certain amount of drive and the type of inner confidence that pushes you that way. At the same time, when I have my more independent times, it feels wonderful. I think a balance is nice - it would be nice to not need anyone, but there are ways in which I need the people in my life. (Not in unhealthy ways.) I know that independence builds confidence, but it can also have a draining effect when you're doing too much by yourself. (Any single parent could tell you that, and, no, I'm not one of them.) I like the idea of having your independence, but having someone there to lean on when needed. I know I can't look to others to make me feel good about myself - not really. It's the worst feeling when that confidence is shaky, and I want it back. (I felt so free at times in the past year, only to let certain things plough me into the ground over and over... I want that feeling of freedom back. The smiles, the optimism, the looking forward.) quote: I guess that this can happen if the Aries person is insecure about his/her own sense of identity/independence and/or about the relationship itself.
Yes, this was what I was getting at. I also wouldn't want to be controlled in a relationship, or to control someone else - I despise power games. As long as I'm sure that I can trust someone, then I'm fine. I probably wouldn't mind someone doing their own thing, as long as that thing wasn't another person.. or drugs. That said, I'm probably better off on my own. IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Cloud 22, Jupiter Ave, Lalaland Registered: Jun 2010
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posted August 21, 2010 06:25 PM
hmmm Aries Moon - The Aries and Gemini Moon people I know personally -had reasonably good, fun childhoods. I find these two similar since they are both personal and masculine signs (They do have their differences, but I'll focus on the similarities here). Both were allowed to be kids and really experience that, and some never grow up. I find them fun, but a little bit in the dark when it comes to the harsher side of life. They both strive for independence. They are not "heavy" people in any sense of the word. They seem quite HAPPY and things seem to come easily to them. I think there is an element of good luck there. They are always young at heart, looking on the bright side. Not too much happens in their lives that is emotionally draining or very negative (unless the Moon is afflicted). (Disclaimer: I realise this is not always the case. I know one Gem Moon person on here has had bad experiences with her parents.) I'm Aries Sun - Cap Moon & Mars/Nept - Cancer AC :edit: About Aries Moon and weakness.. In my experience, it is not so much that they despise weakness, but rather do not understand it and are afraid of it. for instance I know a man at the moment who has an Aries Moon and even though one of his friends is ill - he is choosing to ignore and avoid the situation. He does not know how to deal with this friend - at this time in his life - a weak point.. because he has never been through something similar. I find this happens often - the experience of negative things is missing. They seldom have *serious* negative experiences and hence, they are a bit oblivious to them. -- But, as above - This would change if the Moon is afflicted. IP: Logged |