posted August 29, 2010 01:26 PM         

For example: I have an unaspected Gemini Venus in the 5th house and my creative energy in that context is very strong and random, I love to read, exchange ideas, almost to the point of death...LOL. I can never read enough, write enough, etc.

HOWEVER, traditional Venusian things just do not come naturally to me. I'm not photogenic, I'm barely social/relationship oriented, or affectionate.

The second part of this is theory is something that I found on Sasstrology.com. It is that someone's planet aspecting that planet in synastry will allow you to be able to express those qualities as subconsciously and at random as anyone else without this problem. For example, the Unaspected Venus suddenly feels attractive or affectionate around the person who's Sun sits on top of it...like never before. BUT, when they want you call upon that trait at one moment in a conscious manner (eg. the partner cornering Venus for its affection) they cannot *consciously* do it.

posted August 29, 2010 01:32 PM         

I love threads on unaspected planets cuz I think integrating them is a crucial part to getting whole.
I am thinking you cannot get whole without it.

My unaspected Gemini Venus is in the 7th house with Taurus on the cusp.
My unaspected Cancer moon is in the 8th house with Gemini on the cusp.

Ami
PS In synastry, when the unaspected planet gets aspected, it is very powerful.
I look forward to reading the article.

posted August 29, 2010 02:17 PM         

Part of what I was searching for in another was my OWN love nature.

Ami
PS--Someone aspected my Venus with a strong aspect. Can someone reclaim their unaspected Venus without this? I don't know.

PPS I am gonna be back later.

posted August 29, 2010 02:55 PM         

I also love talking, writing, reading, but only on some subjects. I love late night conversations with friends or potential partners, I think it's the best time of the relationship and the one that binds me to them. I also love... food. And stability and comfort. Not so much money, just the security they bring.
I also have trouble asserting my Venusian side. It helps a little that Venus aspects the angles, it trines Asc and opposes MC, they helped me express it, though not fully. I think I have a somewhat pretty face, but don't consider myself attractive, though other people view me as such (always comes as a surprise). I am a fashion disaster, I never know which goes with which and for the life of me I don't get the scarf trend. I usually don't dress to impress; when I did, it was badly received, so I stick to monocolor, boring outfits.
I think, at least in my case, there is a huge contradiction between how I view my Venusian expression and how others see it. The above example is just one; I used to play piano as a child, but I thought I was mediocre and quit - everybody thought I had potential. I like to think I have a nice singing voice, but nobody likes it, they say my singing is horrible lol. I hate my hair, I can never get it to stay the way I want it to, but everybody likes it.

With venus, I always feel like I can't just get it right! Oh, and don't get me started with love and relationships...

I think Venus came out strongly in my career. I do plastic surgery. MC ruler is in Libra and Venus is in opposition to MC. I view it as art most of the time. The same thing happened with my career, I almost abandoned my plans for plastics because nobody thought I could do it or could catch it at the residency exam (you have to score very high to get plastics). But through a fortunate line of events, I got in and I must say I LOVE everything about it, even the most icky parts of it (like burns or eschars). I find its principles very logical and easy to understand, though everybody says plastics is hard. I'm not as good at it as I'd like to be (yet) and don't have much confidence in myself because of that, but generally my bosses apreciate my skill. I think plastics could be my best way of integrating my Venus. At least I hope so, because I suck at relationships.

posted August 29, 2010 03:15 PM         

Ami
PS I don't mind my picture taken but I will cut up the bad ones

posted August 29, 2010 03:36 PM         

From what I read on another topic, I don't think your Moon is unaspected. Bigger orbs are granted for Sun and Moon, some astrologers say 9-10 degrees for conjunction and opposition. I know you had a difficult relationship with your mother, but the Moon stands for a lot more than that. It can also be about your own maternal instincts and as I understand there were no problems expressing that energy.

posted August 29, 2010 03:41 PM         

When I read it , things just clicked.

Mainly, I feel like I can never find home as much as I try.

x o Ami

posted August 29, 2010 03:47 PM         

Ami

posted August 29, 2010 03:50 PM         

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Mainly, I feel like I can never find home as much as I try.

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I feel like that too. But probably because my unaspected Venus rules the 4th house and the 9th. I have moved a few times and traveled throughout the country and I can't find a place that FEELS like home. I wanted my own house very badly, but now that I have it, I can't enjoy it. This saddens me.

posted August 29, 2010 03:53 PM         

I think I am not at home in my own body, own self.
It must be that. What else could it be?

Ami
Cancer moon,itself, has certain qualities inherent to it.
It supposedly makes for a fragile, lost feeling .

This could account for some of that orphaned feeling but I still feel, down deep that I have an unaspected moon.

When I can integrate it, I will have found my emotions .
I am finding my love nature by integrating the Venus.

Integrating these unaspected planets is SUPER powerful, I think.

posted August 29, 2010 04:00 PM         

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Wow, Izo
Let me ask you this. I don't mean to sound strange
Do you feel comfortable being female?

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It does sound a little strange, but I don't mind the question. I don't, to be honest. Not really. I don't feel comfortable in my body, but I don't know if I'd be more comfortable in a male body either. I have plenty of masculine traits, though. Sharp facial features and an androginous body shape. Sometimes I find girly stuff silly or ridiculous because they seem so shallow. I don't think it has to do solely with my unaspected venus, I think my afflicted Cap Asc is partly to blame for that, as well.

posted August 29, 2010 04:03 PM         

What houses do Moon and Venus rule in your chart?

In my case, Venus rules the 4th and the 9th and I can say the unaspected shadow is cast on them too.

posted August 29, 2010 04:12 PM         

I have Taurus on the 7th house cusp and Venus is in the 7th house.
I have Libra on the 12th house cusp and Neptune is in the 12th house.

Ami
PS Could you explain your reasoning ,here, Izo ?

posted August 29, 2010 04:29 PM         

I ask it cuz I was thinking about my mother.
She used to tell me(at age 9 that she, meaning her , could see herself being a lesbian )

She used to act like she wished she were born male , begruding being a female.

I have always felt very comfortable with being female although I am not frilly at all.

It is just a sense that I feel 100% integrated/comfortable in being female .

This may make no sense. I am getting lost in words lol

I am wondering if it has anything to do with the Venus's.

Ami
PS I associate my thinking with being male ,though, in that it is clear and direct.
I HATE talking about girly things like clothes, kids, decorating houses etc
I have male friends versus female ,as a rule.

Perhaps, this is the "unaspected " moon,

I have good,strong Sun aspects, though

PPS Most things have an Astrological explanation .
That is why I brought about a strange, you could say , topic
Perhaps, I threw so much out there that it is soup lol
In that case, forget the whole thing

posted August 30, 2010 12:14 AM         

And you say you've never felt at home? Or in other words, a sense of belonging? That actually does sound like a perigrine moon to me. Perhaps it is Unaspected, but we see that its dignified since its in Cancer. Dignities are very strong in a chart. Perhaps thats what it is, because sometimes an unaspected planet is very much evident to everyone else but ourselves....especially if its dignified

You say you are comfortable with 'Venus behaviors' too, I also see you have an accidental dignity with Venus in the 7th, so that would probably alter things a bit too. Now are you as clear about what you value as the rest of us on this thread (according to the placement)?

posted August 30, 2010 12:27 AM         

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I think, at least in my case, there is a huge contradiction between how I view my Venusian expression and how others see it. The above example is just one; I used to play piano as a child, but I thought I was mediocre and quit - everybody thought I had potential. I like to think I have a nice singing voice, but nobody likes it, they say my singing is horrible lol. I hate my hair, I can never get it to stay the way I want it to, but everybody likes it.

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Oh wow, I also didn't realize my creative potential until about a year ago. Other people would say the same thing when I'd do something as simple as doodle a picture....haha.

Your relationship with flowers sounds like my relationship with skirts. Before my progressed Venus finally entered Cancer, I HATED wearing skirts or dresses and it was actually a fight for my mother to get me into one even on Christmas and Easter...LOL. I just could not stand how girly and frilly they made me feel. I've always liked feeling androgynous, and to be honest I'm comfortable enough in cotton dresses now that I still do. That might not be the sign placement though, it could be just the position of my moon and venus itself.

And I am also always having a permanent bad hair day...please don't get me started.

I actually try accessories believe it or not (like jewelery) but I can never keep up wearing them on a daily basis. So I have a tin full of them that I never wear. I'm the same way with make-up too: I buy tons of it that I never wear, but I did enjoy using it for my artistic fancy last summer.

posted August 30, 2010 12:39 AM         

One other thing: I despise the Lifetime Network. I believe there is a better way to cater to women without doing a great disservice to art of Drama. I've never found so many movies on one network with such TERRIBLE plots. *SMH* And I've noticed that of all the people I work with (all female), Im the only one who's so critical of Lifetime...hahahaha. And Im also the only one who watches NatGeo and the History Channel on a regular basis. They all say, 'UGH, my husband/boyfriend watches that kind of stuff'. Unaspected Venus
again?

posted August 30, 2010 03:57 AM         

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Ami- going by my theory and intuition I don't think you have an Unaspected Moon since there does not seem to be an inconsistency in the way you express it (archetypically speaking). Sometimes Luminaries can affect eachother from large orbs.

And you say you've never felt at home? Or in other words, a sense of belonging? That actually does sound like a perigrine moon to me. Perhaps it is Unaspected, but we see that its dignified since its in Cancer. Dignities are very strong in a chart. Perhaps thats what it is, because sometimes an unaspected planet is very much evident to everyone else but ourselves....especially if its dignified

You say you are comfortable with 'Venus behaviors' too, I also see you have an accidental dignity with Venus in the 7th, so that would probably alter things a bit too. Now are you as clear about what you value as the rest of us on this thread (according to the placement)?

Now the article does not say you reclaim the unaspected planet through another person, but the other person activating it (usually by conjunction) has a very powerful affect on it....allowing it to express itself more comfortably. They say the only way to truly reclaim the planet is 'awareness', unfortunately. Maybe a few exercises would help in this case....but how?

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BM
Could you please explain this more simply.
It is not that your explanation is bad. I just can't get it--emotionally.

Please--don't mince words. Don't worry about insulting me .

If I appear needy, vain, egocentric etc--whatever--please explain what you are saying.

I want to face myself so i can change.
Often, people see the real you and you don't.

Also, then I am free to accept or not.

Thank you, BM, I value your intuition.
You are a Cancer

x o Ami

PS I hate the Lifetime Channel. I feel embarrassed for woman when I watch it.

I think "What poor woman thinks like THIS lol?

PPS--The reason I think I have an unaspected moon is that I feel that I AM home when I read the explanations of it.

It feels like someone finally gets the inner me in ways I could not verbalize ,previously, but feel totally right when I read it.

I know the degrees are debatable.

On some aspects, I feel the aspects even though they are wide.
Anyway, I wanted to add that cuz it feels important for you to know when you figure out your answer lol

posted August 30, 2010 06:37 AM         

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I loved everything about being a mother from the pregnancy, staying home with children,playing with them etc.

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To me that's the statement of someone with a very well intergrated Cancer Moon. Of course this isn'r the only way to tell one has integrated their moon, but its good sign. People with unaspected Moons usually have to try hard at Moon related things IMO, like that. However, the dignity of your moon in Cancer may be helping things.
Bonding also seems to be very important and easy for you, which is pretty Moon-like.

posted August 30, 2010 08:35 AM         

I will be back to write ,later.
The unaspected planets are key to a balanced person.
One article said that if/when you integrate it ,you have an Albert Einstein planet

It takes on a maverick and unique quality that a planet which was "born" aspected never could.

I can see that as my Venus finds the way to a place of balance.
Ami

posted August 30, 2010 01:04 PM         

When I was younger and had my best friends, I felt I could bond.
That was cuz I had pretty good confidence and was bonded to myself i.e had a good identity.
I knew that your bonds with other people had gaps in them cuz you were you and they were they.

Then, when I lost that sense of self, I never felt as if I could bond although you would not know that from looking from the outside.

I SEEMED bonded but did not feel it. It was that insatiable feeling you describe.

It was like I could not get close enough to this elusive ideal called "bonding"

I may add some things but wanted to put that out to see your opinion.

x o x Ami