posted August 31, 2010 03:04 AM            

I also have a Moon&Venus conjunction in Libra, so most probably that has to do with it too.

posted August 31, 2010 05:02 AM            

I have a Pisces cousin (the only Pisces I know), we were like sisters in our childhood, but nowadays we don't talk. I always was the one calling her, trying to meet up for a coffee and either she wouldn't answer or she would tell me she would call me back for us to go out or something and then she wouldn't call me again...

She even cried once apologizing to me, but after that she kept doing the same, so I just gave up and never contacted her again.

After 3 or 4 years she keeps doing the same lol, this year her mom called me in my birthday and told me my cousin said she also will call me, but I knew she would not and she didn't.

I wonder if this is just her or it's a common trait among Pisceans...

posted August 31, 2010 05:08 AM            

x o x Ami

PS My moon was quincunx my mother's sun. Her sun combust mars was in the 12th house.

posted August 31, 2010 07:04 AM            

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Growing up my home life was stable and supportive. I was the apple of my fathers eye until I became more independent as a teenager - he struggled with that. He had a difficult relationship with my brother which was and continues to be the most frequent cause of friction in our family.

My Mum was/is emotionally distant, she demonstrates her love and care in odd and 'practical' ways. I have always been aware of her envy of mine and my Dad's relationship, but I think she would be horrified if she thought I knew.

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Lol, this could be my words (Also IC/Scorp)!
With the exception that my dad died when I was 25 and that it was my sister with my dad (instead of brother) as the reason of friction in our family.

Very recognizable, the apple of my father's eye.
His Scorpio-Mars right on my IC!

Maybe it also means something that my Jupiter is on my IC and my dad had Moon, Mercury and Venus in Sag. (Cap-Sun)

posted August 31, 2010 09:34 AM            

I have moved a bit in my life, that is up until my Saturn Return. 19 times before the return and once since then. One could expect a certain academic/intellectual/religious home too I suppose, but no professors/clergy for parents, nor were we particularly religious or irreligious. But my mom did encourage my education as best she could. She doesn't have an academic bone in her body.

However in my home today, I have a huge and over full book case as a center piece of my living room where most would have an entertainment center or fireplace.

posted August 31, 2010 09:48 AM            

It MUST be the quincunx of my Cancer moon/mars to Aqua..

I am thinking of the quincunx.

Aries /Scorpio
Taurus/Sag
Gemini/Cap
Cancer/ Aqua
Leo/Pisces

If you think about the energy of these signs--they do not go together.

Perhaps a qunicunx is harder than a square or an opposition.

Bobbie said her Sun quincunx Saturn was WORSE than a square or an opposition.

It is interesting to contemplate especially in synastry.

What do you think?

Ami
PS It is interesting in one's natal chart, too

PPS My next thread will be --Do you get along with your Quincunx

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Stuff is not as it seems.

posted August 31, 2010 10:13 AM            

My dad is a Cap,
both of my brother's Cap ASC conjs my IC,
my mother's Saturn is in Cap, her Sun might be as well, either that or early Aqua (she's born in January, on a Friday so I'm not sure)

Ami, you know how my childhood was like, I guess it does described my IC, I was very controlled by my mother to put it lightly.

But I don't dislike my Cap IC, in fact I love it. There's lots of great Capricorns that have come into my life.

posted August 31, 2010 12:55 PM            

x o Ami

posted August 31, 2010 12:58 PM            

My sister also has a Virgo IC. I suppose Aqua and Virgo can both create atmospheres where self-sufficiency is expected.

Is your Mercury in Aqua? That could bring the Aqua feel to your home.

My 4th house ruler is in Sco, and I think that shows the volatile emotional atmosphere.

For the most part, I really enjoyed the airy vibe too. I feel nurtured when I'm given freedom to explore and design my own life. That could also be from having Ceres in Aries in the 5th.

Where's your Ceres?

posted August 31, 2010 01:14 PM            

I guess you can say i'm conflicted with them.

They have a stuburn side that drives me insame, but then they show a careing side also.

Espically how taurus have "intuitive powers" on Gemini's and are good at paying attention to things.

All admit I've had my moments were I have gotten upset over there lack of flexablity and then they turn around with a nice polite smile or here I baked you something.

All the while not knowing how upset I actualy am.

Plus my venus is in taurus also.

With that said they annoy and frustrate me but at the same time are likeable in other ways.

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Capircorn Rising
Gemini Sun
Aries Moon
Mercury in Gemini
venus in Taurus
Mars Cancer

posted August 31, 2010 02:52 PM            

I was scared to death to have children. I would not have if my husband had not pressured me .I was afraid I would be like my mother.

However, I was a natural as a mother.It was intuitive as a Cancer.
I think the Cancer FEELS and if you can feel, you can figure out complicated things
That is what I am learning now :to open up and FEEL life, don't think it.
Thanks for asking (((Jane))

x o x Ami

posted August 31, 2010 02:55 PM            

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted August 31, 2010 02:58 PM            

I actually do have Mercury in Aqua (in the 9th)... forgot to mention that.

My Ceres is also in Aquarius in the 9th

posted September 01, 2010 12:04 AM            

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I love the Uranus energy in myself. I think I have enough to be "out there" enough. You have to be to hang with this group

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True!

I love your Uranus energy too. I really enjoy reading your thoughts, the way you piece things together.

I'm a little scared of having kids too. Less than I was, but still a little. I'm too inebriated to get into that now, and also too drunk to know if I'd wisely judge how much to get into about that.

Do you think your mothering style is at all Leo-like? I'm curious if our MC plays a role. Since our childhood affects us as adults, it makes sense to me that our MC would accurately reveal our parenting style.

Glaucus -

I also find the converse interesting - how children in the same household have different IC's. This can reveal how our own natures react differently to the same environment.

My sister, for example, has Virgo on her IC. She has Mercury in her 7th house in Cap.

She resents the lack of guidance we received b/c she feels like she wasn't taught how to be confidently independent. For her, there was too much independence before she was ready for it, and she froze.

I, on the other hand, jumped right into that role, comfortable with being my own decision-maker. My 4th house ruler is in my 1st house.

Her 4th house ruler in her 7th house = she was looking to someone else for guidance.
My 4th house ruler in my 1st house = I looked to myself.

amowls -

posted September 01, 2010 12:50 AM            

I like to share that cuz woman are horrible the way they scare other woman lol

x o x Ami
PS Thanks for saying that about my posts, Jane. You got SO many girlfriends. Will you still love me, tomorrow ?

posted September 01, 2010 07:51 AM            

Late 2008, I fell asleep on the couch and woke up to find my cat, Teasel, on my chest, snuggled in. I looked to my left, saw my mother sitting there, smiling at us, smiled back and felt perfectly content until she said, "That should be a baby there." I had to resist the strong urge to push Teasel off me, as I let out a protest (stronger than intended). My poor mother thinks she's never going to be a grandmother. I'm not so sure I'll have my own children, although I've adored other peoples' babies. I think if my situation had been different, then I would have had one by now.

I was thinking about my sister's IC yesterday - I think it's still in Cancer. My Saturn and my mother's were both in her fourth house. My mother worked a lot, trying to keep a roof over our heads and food on the table. As I said before, she was also overrun with being there for others, and she feels guilty aboutt that: she told me the other day, that my sister had told her that all she wanted was for her to sit down and play Barbies with her. A couple of years ago, I remember my sister being upset when Mum rushed to answer the phone or Skype, when they were supposed to be going somewhere.

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She resents the lack of guidance we received b/c she feels like she wasn't taught how to be confidently independent. For her, there was too much independence before she was ready for it, and she froze.

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I was fine with the amount of independence (although it sounds as though I had a little less than you did). I was more worried about taking care of my sister - my little Cappy resisted being called a "kid", insisting that she was a Young Adult (which led to the nickname YaYa for her, and Yana for me - that came from manana, because I was so laid-back in a lot of ways- nobody knew about the anxiety I was feeling). I learned how to cook basics, how to do laundry, and tried to keep my sister from getting into spots of trouble with a girl who was just a nasty piece of work - she was always looking to cause trouble somehow. My mother hired two sitters, but they only ever showed up about five minutes before Mum was due home - I'd tried to tell her, and she found out for herself when she was home sick, and they waltzed in at the usual time.

I was never rebellious, because I didn't have much to rebel against (unless I didn't like my mother's boyfriend, and was worried that he was going to do her wrong- I hadn't said anything when I was smaller, but it was apparent to my mother just going by the look on my face. As a teen, I made my opinion known, when I could see trouble.)

I had a point, and now I've forgotten it... I was in an out of sleep for thirteen hours, on the couch - you would think my brain would be working better than it was yesterday.

*edit. Oh, my point! It was that after we moved over here, and I was able to spend all of that time with my mother, spent time working at home - which was fine, as long as I was working, and not just staying home thanks to anxiety - was that my mother finally got to be the type of mother she's wanted to be, and I lost some of my independence. I also no longer had access to public transport, which was another big problem for me. My mother started to take care of me and my sister, we spent a lot of time together, laughing. When we moved to a more isolated place, my social anxiety was stronger, and I'd already been through one bout of agoraphobia - a very strong one. I thought I was fully on the road to recovery, but due to certain things happening, I ended up becoming more isolated and introverted. So, the responsibility and independence was *good* for me - when I had that taken away, I lost a chuck of my belief in myself. My sister, during that time, blossomed in a way. She doesn't have many close friends, but she had the same anxiety issues, and thanks to her long-distance boyfriend living in Canada, had to deal with several things if she wanted to go and stay with him. She got her social security, her ID/passport taken care of, and when she's up there with him, she has access to public transport - he's her best friend, and she socializes with his family, at times.

So, maybe I *should* have focused on a man in my own recovery, instead of wanting to do it all for myself, so that I wouldn't crumble if things hadn't worked out with the guy. I'm okay in a lot of ways now, but it kills me that I lost that time at all (in ways). The only good things that came out of that time were the time I got to spend with my parents - time I'd missed out on with my mother working so hard, and my Dad being over here for those eleven years that we were apart - and my being able to find board such as this, and to learn about all of the things that I've dabbled in over the years. Although I loved the peacefulness of the place we moved to, and had my own plans to move on to another place (New Paltz - I had it all planned! but it didn't happen) - I've found myself wishing that we'd got the place next to the frat boys, in North Canton, when I was 21. At least I would have been around people my age, and knowing me, I would have made friends with them eventually, if I'd been exposed to them long enough - so to speak.

posted September 01, 2010 08:06 AM            

The only goal I did not achieve was getting a mother to love me. That one I am working on letting go lol

However, I thought each thing was the walk through the door of happiness .

I graduated from a top college. I got a master degree,married a doctor, had two beautiful kids who never gave me a moment of embarrassment or angst, really.
They were easy and wonderful relationships.

I looked good enough.
I was smart, enough.
I had as many friends as I wanted.
I played an instrument and had many hobbies.
I have a beautiful house and traveled as much as I wanted to.

Somewhere in there, I found God. I thought surely THAT will make me happy or at least take away this despair which was getting worse.

I went to AA for 10 years with a friend even though I never drank .They were a group of people who were real.
I craved real as the answer to my problems.
I left after 10 years cuz it still did not touch the pain.
Nothing did. It was untouchable and getting worse and worse.

You think the one thing you DON"T have will be the answer whether a child, a man, love, a good mother(I still think that will do it lol),popularity, a prestigious career, beautiful house , your own beauty,social standing.

I don't know if other people are happy. I have looked at other people, enough , people I admired and tried to emulate .

My Aunt,my mothers sister, was my role model.
She had it all. She was beautiful, smart, sweet (a Cancer sun), had wonderful kids, was a wonderful mother, dressed like Jackie O and looked like her ,too.

I asked her,"What regrets do you have in your life?

She said,"I wish I studied French"

Man, my regrets could be an earthquake that opened up and sucked in 2000 people.

I wanted to end this with "This is what you do"
If I ever figure it out, I will come back and end it that way lol

Ami