posted September 07, 2010 12:59 AM         

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What is so bad about that placement?

posted September 07, 2010 02:38 AM         

Of all placements of all planets, why single out this one to be the worst.
(Why not, for example, Saturn in Cancer or Pluto in Taurus...). So, there must be more behind what IQ wrote.

posted September 07, 2010 03:02 AM         

I hope IQ will be kind enough to answer.

posted September 07, 2010 11:05 AM         

I have much to write about Saturn in Leo, from personal experience but I am still busy with a graduate training program, will be able to explain later though.

Saturn and Sun are "enemies" in terms of Saturn ruling Aquarius and opposing Leo. Same logic holds for Saturn ruling Capricorn and opposing Cancer.

However, Saturn "restricts" the potential of the sign it occupies. Cancer is a pessimistic, introverted Sign. There is no harm in Saturn restricting a bit of that behavior. Leo however is a positive, optimistic, extroverted, generous Sign. Saturn here extinguishes the Fire of Leo. It humbles the people here, it prevents them from attaining fame, or destroys them if they attain fame [and forget Saturn ]

Saturn in Leo 5th is the worst of the worst placements, I should have worded my original statement this way, that Saturn in 5th Leo should not be wished even on enemies. This placement effect is akin to a cop whose hands are tied by his Superiors when a robber loots a bank in front of him. The native will have to suffer seeing selfish incompetents get ahead in life. His own success will come, in non-conformance [A bit of Aqua, the opposite sign] but it will always hurt him or her to not be able to help those in need, even as those who can help turn a blind eye. I know hundreds of people in my life with this aspect [nearly every classmate/schoolmate], and speak from experience. More to come about this important generational aspect.

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posted September 07, 2010 04:53 PM         

Charlie Chaplin had Saturn in Leo and he is still one of the most famous people on earth. He was the first international star. I think if you use Saturn as a tool correctly it can offer you strategic skills in the sign it resides in. That's how Charlie Chaplin used it.

If you don't use it well, then yes, it can seriously deprive you.

posted September 07, 2010 05:01 PM         

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The native will have to suffer seeing selfish incompetents get ahead in life.

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posted September 07, 2010 05:33 PM         

Thats why he ended our relationship...he couldn't receive my love.

posted September 07, 2010 07:51 PM         

In Tarot, the Five of Wands depicts "Saturn in Leo", it means internal/or external wars and strife in every area of life.

http://www.learntarot.com/w5.htm

"You wake up and stub your toe going to the bathroom. You're in the shower and find out there's no soap. At breakfast, you get juice on your shirt. When you get to the car, your battery is dead. It's going to be a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day. You're beset by hassles - those petty annoyances that are infuriating because they are so minor.

The Five of Wands stands for times when your environment seems to be fighting you. Nothing flows smoothly; everyone is working at cross-purposes. The figures on this card are all batting at each other. There is no coordinated effort, no agreement. When this card shows up, be prepared for a bumpy ride. You're going to need extra patience and perseverance to get to the point where you can accomplish something. The Five of Wands does not represent major blockages, just many small, irritating ones.

This card also stands for competition. In the right circumstances, competition is useful. It fosters extra effort, generates excitement and encourages the best. When the Five of Wands appears in a reading, check for competitive elements. You may be involved in a contest, race or game. You may discover you have rivals who are opposing you or challenging your position. You may feel disheartened (or invigorated!) by the dog-eat-dog environment you find yourself in. At its heart, competition is divisive. Make sure it is helping you and others reach your true goals. Otherwise, work toward cooperation."

http://tarotnotes-majorandminor.blogspot.com/2009/07/five-of-wands.html