posted September 13, 2010 04:22 AM         

How are things? You wrote previously that Monday is D day... Is everything ok?
Maybe it's a good thing that John picked up the phone at his mum's then. Is he living at his mum's or was he just visiting?

posted September 13, 2010 07:11 AM         

thank you. i could really see where you were coming from,and i phoned John that instant.

Quinnie

well he was just visiting and so i thought that couldn't be a coincidence..but he knows i phoned to tell his Mom.he is very clever and knows me very well.

i am relief today cause i talked to him and his Boss didnt took his 5 vacation days off.nor said nothing about John´s act of Friday.

Im a bit suspicious..no Boss would leave things that way but let´s see...

Yesterday i had a huge conversation with John,like i suspected he didnt called,he was waiting for me to do it,and the 1st thing he said was that he is very disappointed with me,never thought that i would be the only one n ot supporting him.

then told me that he told what happened to his parents,and both of them said he did allright:that if he didnt did anything,that his Boss would take even more advantage of him.

So,im a bit sad myself frankly cause JOhn still thingks i dont understand him and that if i continue doing so,that things could not work out...then he started talking about distance.That he keeps sending CV´s to here,but no answer and that i should at least keep an open mind about going to live there,where he is.
This is something that he says that he is disappointed too in me,cause he sees couples even going abroad together and that i dont want it.

So,,yesterday he clearly showned to me that he doesnt have a clue of "what we got together".

that is the conclusion i take.he even said to me that he is all alone in the world,with no one to care for him...

to which i immediately replied: "i must be the only person in the world who genuinesly cares for you,with no selfish interest in you"..im talking obviously of his brother,and also his parents,who i love,but obviously keep not doing the right support to him.

So,here i am,thinking that this whole thing appeared out of knowhere to make him SEE the real deal,where he wants to Be,what he wants to do with his life,...and he tells me all those awful things..obviously not seeing where the Truth lies.

he keeps suffering and i focused on showing to him that i do SUPPORT AND CARE for him,deeply to the point that i show him that LOVE IS NOT SELFISH,but he keeps pointing out that if im not there,then i dont care for him.

the fact is: im not there because that is not our place,the place where we want to raise our family,besides of the fact that being there only prejudices him and myself,for all the facts that i pointed in the Past.

posted September 13, 2010 07:21 AM         

You shared that.

I think this is swirling and swirling inside and coming out on his boss--even though the guy may be a jerk and I am sure the boss is.

Johnny has a whole life time of out of control emotions which could erupt.

It is a dangerous situation.

My only suggestion would be that the answer is spiritual.

I am sure you know that but HE has to find that spiritual path out of these killer emotions.

Can I pray for him and you? I ask cuz some people do not like it or want it and I don't want to do something you don't care for.

posted September 13, 2010 07:33 AM         

yes,yo can and i thank you for that generosity of yous and honesty.

you are saying what i thought yesterday and what i always knew deep down inside of me.

he cried on the phone when talking about the way he feels unsupported by his family.He is a cancer asc and i felt how his feelings were sincere and so sad...he has suffered a lot and continues to do so..

months ago i said to him that surelly he has many traumatic experiences that he hasnt reliesed yet.but he doesnt like to talk about it - he says he already worked them out.

But i know he didnt.

He is like that volcano i talked here..he thinks that he wont do anything bad ( he said that he only threatened his boss,but is not a violent man,he wont do anything to the man).

I believe so,but i also know that for a person that has suffered like him all his life,and has a good soul and heart,all that injustice he suffered ( hes libra) will come out and in a second he could take it all outside.

that is my worry and ive been also asking my Guides to help him do the right thing for him.

He doenst deserve any more suffering and he deserves happiness,his dreams come true,all his work since 17yr old is huge,and he deserves to find the people that are good for him,specially professionaly.

but you know what i feel?

I feel that he still isn't aware that for him to do so,he must be honest with all of this:

conclude that if he continues to wait that his family changes,and finally treats him the way he always wished,he will be waisting his Time/Life/peace of Mind.
inside,he is doint that,that is why nothing external appeared for him to come out of that place..." as above so below...as within so without".

posted September 13, 2010 08:33 AM         

Again I took a similar approach. I argued with him that he was not dealing with things appropriately, that he needed to use his head and not act angrily from his feelings of hurt. I was very strict with him though.
He said similar things to me but I didn't accept them. WHY? Because he knew I loved him, he also knows that I deal with things differently, that I do not agree with violence or think that a job should make a slave out of you... But he still had to work.

However I must say I had little sympathy but plenty of empathy for both him and his colleagues. Now I'm not saying the situation was the same. I don't know how abusive John's boss might be at work.

My Pisces needed to learn how to be more assertive and to stop taking on so much and trying to outsmart the bosses into giving him a promotion.
I just called it for what I saw it and he didn't like it. I was betraying him in his eyes. I did not let him become a victim or victimize me.

I told him that is what I think, so deal with it! if you carry on this action.... these are the consequences... I disagree with how you are acting but I will not say sorry for it. I am supporting you because I love you and I'm there for you but I'm not changing my opinion just because you don't like it, otherwise I would just be enabling you to do something that I don't agree with.
The choice is yours and I am here for you but
you will be held responsible for your actions and I can't agree with those actions if you are going to suffer because of them.

posted September 13, 2010 10:47 AM         

So you know both our places,where we are standing now.your situation is really similar.

did you lost your Pisces?

ive been talking to John by msn,and ive even showned him parts of this thread,for him to see the influences and how is this viewed by external perspective.

Not before i have talked with him about how the inner energies reflect the exterior ones,of course..

after reading it,he said it was amazingly accurate and that he has been trying to see what is his spiritual purpose,and where is this coming from,but tillnow he doesnt see it.

i was positively shocked by his reaction:he not only agreed with all that was said,but also is now trying to perceive his behaviour through another whole perspective.He understood how his frustration/resentment have been undermining his Life and his acts.

He also is aware of how his family is tied in with this,but didnt said much of it.

I continued to talk calmly and directing him towards self-awareness,i think he is slowly coming to his senses.

i said for him to use the negative feelings like a signal for what he wants in LIFE,and to which direction go for,in order to erase those feelings on him.

posted September 13, 2010 10:53 AM         

He doesn't have to go any particular spiritual place or even show he is really interested in it.

Just keep going there in YOUR conversation, more as talking about you rather than trying to convince him of anything

IOW,you just shine out your interest in spiritual things and your life with them.

He will watch but not act like he is interested for along time.
Don't get discouraged.

You can be the conduit to take him from purely emotional reactions to a spiritual way to deal with them BUT you won't see progress for a time.
That is what I feel. Keep going even though you don't think you are getting any where.

Keep writing on this thread what is going on cuz I seem to be attuned to it.

x o x Ami

posted September 13, 2010 11:23 AM         

i am doing so...and i keep the Faith.

he will have his 1st saturn return too,so that is a good thing,cause always brings the maturity and looking at what should be looked upon.

posted September 14, 2010 02:30 PM         

yes,im a 6virgo degree.a 11th sun.

i can say that when saturn passed there i lost most of my friends...it was the time when i really withdraw to myself and felt the need to do it.

im sorry that you suffered that much..for me it wasnt that painful.

it is good that now you can see the positive side of it

well i think JOhnny will slowly come to his senses,and he knows im here for him.

luckily his Boss didnt do anything in relation to what he did last Friday.it is hard to believe but he acted like nothing happened...???