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Paloma
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posted September 18, 2010 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paloma     Edit/Delete Message
hi,
was wondering if the very knowledgable astrologers out there would be so kind as to answer these 2 questions? I don't have the knowledge and not much on the 'net but a friend swears by the Magi...

Does a Mars (female) trine (& parallel) a man's chiron ensure LONG lasting sexual attraction? also

if a woman's Juno (parallel her chiron/neptune aspect) both trines and parallels a man's Mars (his mars both quin his chiron, chiron parallels his juno, juno trines his pluto). Would this ensure a long lasting LUST for the woman. She says "JUNO" is the flame and the other is drawn to it.

Would very much appreciate ANY info to shed light on this. thanks so much!

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comica23
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posted September 18, 2010 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there, I don't know much about Magi, but in astrology, Juno is more associated with commitment rather than sex like Magi does. Personally, I'm not very into Magi due to a few contradictions (like Juno's symbolism), but I won't say that they are either accurate or not, simply coz I haven't studied it.

But well, back to the Juno aspects in synastry.. again, Juno is more about commitment than sex in astrology, so its aspects in synastry can inspire commitment feelings in the Juno person, while the planet person can feel compatible/comfortable/like the Juno person's idea of commitment. With a woman's Juno trining a man's Mars, the woman can find the man's masculinity ideal when it comes to commitment.

About Chiron, it's often related to wounds and healing/teaching. So that in a synastry, hard aspects to Chiron might indicate one being hurt by the other, while harmonious aspects can indicate healing.


For sexual attraction, you can look for synastry aspects with Mars/Pluto/Eros/Lust.

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Lara
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posted September 18, 2010 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome to LL Paloma

mars/pluto/eros/lust sexual attraction synastry really works!
My partner and i have a grand trine involving all of them so look and see if there are any patterns in your chart too.

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Paloma
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posted September 18, 2010 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paloma     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks a lot! I will look those aspects up and see what exists. There is a moon/venus&jupiter conjunction and sun/jupiter too so i think there is some potential! :>

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Paloma
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posted September 19, 2010 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paloma     Edit/Delete Message
Wow - I found my eros parallel his venus, my lust parallels his pluto and his pluto parallels my moon!

Does the pluto person feel it more? or is it equal? he's a virgo so is 'collected' and doesn't reveal a lot...

thanks much!!

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Lonake
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posted September 19, 2010 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
In a synastry I have these,
my Mars trine his Mars
my Lust conj his Mars
my Pluto trine his Mars
my Eros trine his Venus
my Eros square his Lust

and honestly we don't have any Venus/Mars, or Moon/Mars, Venus/Pluto, Sun/Mars etc. but I am so drawn to his sexuality, it's overwhelming. And it happens so often when their Mars is on my Lust.

You guys think Mars conj Lust in synastry could bypass lack of sexual attraction aspects elsewhere?
I'm beginning to wonder....

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Betty Boop
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posted September 19, 2010 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message
Well I have the trine in synastry.

It's my Mars in Cap (conj Neptune) and trine his Mercury/Chiron conj in Taurus (which is actually on my Venus/NN).

I've always been sexually attracted to him. He seems more sentimental than sexually attracted.
Is that all Magi says about these two aspects?
Where can I read more about it?

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Lonake
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posted September 19, 2010 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
I know, I want a Magi Synastry cookbook

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Lonake
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posted September 19, 2010 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Magi Astrology says:

" Magi Astrology understands the astrology of Lust Bonds. According to Magi Astrology, two persons can be tied together in a Lust Bond if they form more than one Juno Sexual Linkage.

A Juno Sexual Linkage is formed in two ways:

• A linkage between one person’s natal Juno and any other person’s natal Sexual Planet (Venus, Mars, Pluto and Juno are Sexual Planets)

• Or a linkage between one person’s natal Juno and any other person’s Romance Planet (Venus, Neptune and Chiron are Romance Planets).

two most powerful Juno Sexual Linkages are the Juno-Venus linkage and the Juno-Chiron linkage. They are so powerful that we gave them special names. They Juno-Venus linkage is the Ultimate Sexual Linkage.

Both of them are so powerful that if two persons form just one of them, and the two persons are “each other’s type” (meaning someone they would normally be physically attracted to) then the two persons would be just about irresistibly sexually attracted to each other.

there are also the Sexual Vortex ( when 3 sexual planets make all make interaspects with each others:venus,mars and pluto.


quote:
On Magi Astrology site they claim the big three parallels will ignite passion(these three planets having a menage tau)lol ...

Venus parallel Pluto

Mars parallel Pluto

Venus parallel Mars

Here is a Magi pdf file on parallels in relationships and in natal... http://www.magiastrology.com/magi_astrology_minibook2.pdf



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angel100
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posted September 19, 2010 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message
I've posted up stuff about this before and I couldn't reach any conclusions either. There are lots of married couples around who have chiron-venus clashes rather than linkages and these couples also may have the lifelong mistress linkage ie. Chiron-juno linkage...magi says that marriage is highly unlikely to take place where there is a chiron-juno linkage between partners. Camilla parker bowles and Prince Charles have this linkage and they did eventually get married, so where does that leave magi lol? My parents on the other hand who are married for 25 years have the chiron-venus conjunction with 1 degree orb? That fits magi nicely ....who's to know? there are exceptions to the rule no matter whether you prefer magi synastry or traditional synastry. Im nearly sure that linda mc cartney and paul had a venus-juno conjunction and a chiron venus clash (square)...that just blows magi out of the water. It's all a mystery

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Glaucus
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posted September 19, 2010 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Ever since I read about their views about Sedna and Ceres, it's hard for me to take Magi Astrology seriously.

I do agree with declinations and planetary geometry are important.
Cosmobiologists believe that too.

I don't like all the emphasis on Chiron like it is some super planet while there is very little emphasis on Ceres which is a dwarf planet that is more than 600 km larger in diameter than Chiron. Chariklo is a larger centaur than Chiron. It's named after the wife of Chiron. If Chiron is highly important for love, Chariklo would be too.

I'd think that Venus,Mars in linkage to Nessus would be a sexual linkage. Nessus is a centaur like Chiron. I think that Venus,Mars in linkage to Pluto's fellow plutinos, Orcus and Ixion could be sexual linkages too. I believe that all 3 objects require much smaller orbs though because of their long,slow orbital periods. They should have the same orbs. Ixion and Orcus' orbial periods are only a year apart from Pluto's.


Some of their concepts aren't even original.

For example, the Magi 7 charts are nothing but 7th harmonic aspects.

The Magi Quads which are the midpoint-midpoint conjunctions,oppositions are used in Hamburg School/Uranian Astrology. They are called "Planetary Pictures"
David Colchrane also refers to them as "Isosceles Trapezoids"

There is symmetry

for instance
I have Mercury/Sedna mp oppose Saturn/Uranus mp. I actually have Mercury,Saturn,Uranus,and Sedna in 11th harmonic aspect pattern that involves an isosceles trapezoid. I have Mercury oppose Saturn/Sedna and Sedna oppose Mercury/Uranus midpoint pictures because of that 11th harmonic isosceles trapezoid.


I agree with Heliocentric Astrology being insightful. Philip Sedgwick is a big advocate of it.

Raymond


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Paloma
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posted September 19, 2010 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paloma     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Glaucus,
Thanks for answering! I've been lurking here a while before posting and have seen some of your answers. I see you as a very enlightened and compassionate sage, so many people benefit from your very detailed insight and research.
Magi seem right on on some things but so far out on others. I don't like the black/white views and inconsistencies. I didn't know that some of their ideas were 'borrowed'... I'm not very familiar with some of the names you mention but will look them up.
thanks again. - Paloma

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DD
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posted September 19, 2010 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Some things in Magi are quite on target, but many others are not, to put it politely.

Their take on Juno as being indicative of uncommitted affairs, solely based on sexual gratification is as far off the mark as can be.
BUT I do agree, that Juno aspects are very passionate.
Just, passion and commitment do not always exclude each other.


Glaucus,

We are on exactly the same page concerning Magi astrology. (and many others, too. )

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Glaucus
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posted September 19, 2010 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

Paloma,

Thank you for your compliments. I have studied and done Magi Astrology in the past like back in 2000. I was really into it, but it seemed so black and white. I thought there were a lot of inconsistencies,illusion,and just plain B.S.

I don't see myself as a very enlightened and compassionate sage. I am just a person that has a passion for Astrology and like helping others through it. I like to look at charts from many angles.
I've been predominantly a psychological,humanistic astrologer, but I also like the karmic approach to Astrology like in Evolutionary Astrology and Transformational Astrology. I am very much into Asteroid Astrology, and I am glad to see a lot of people in the forum using asteroids. I take it one step further with the use of asteroid nodes,and applying them to evolutionary astrology just like Jeffrey Wolf Green uses planetary nodes in evolutionary astrology.

I have a strong desire for a 21st Century Multidimensional Astrology system. That's where the transneptunians come in. They are essential to that system. The use of Right Ascension and Declination are too. We tend to look at the sky from one angle - Ecliptic Longitude, but the sky is viewed from other angles like the longitude and latitude equatorial coordinates of Right Ascension and Declination. Astronomers use those coordinates to locate objects.

Heliocentric Astrology is very useful,but I believe that it's incomplete without the use of the planetary nodes as well as the nodes of other objects.

Raymond

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Paloma
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posted September 19, 2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paloma     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus,
A person doesn't usually seen how others view them... from my perspective and from the posts I've read, i can see that your opinion is highly valued and sought out. also that you are measured, kind and extremely insightful in your responses...
I'm not even aware of some of the astrological schools you mention! I have some homework to do to keep up with this crowd.
thanks much, Paloma

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