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posted September 22, 2010 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

Wow. So strange what Eros evokes! I have to take another look at our synastry...


This is my Eros:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S_R13jV11Q

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posted September 22, 2010 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, That helps ,DD, about "Too Lost in You" being Neptune /Venus---YES!
Thank you, DD


Well, Meta, Yes the British have it going on lol
Well, to me "educated" in of itself does not do it.
It is like a fluidity with words.

It is like a musician plays the guitar such as Eric Clapton but a man who uses words as his instrument.
Do you know what I mean?

There are not many of them like that out there but I ,always, know when I find one lol

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posted September 22, 2010 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Holy moly, DD, we have some crazy aspects.

Your Eros/Vertex conjunct my Venus/Chiron, and oppose my Saturn.
Your Saturn conjunct my Pallas, oppose my Saturn.
Your Moon/Psyche conjunct my IC.
My Eros/Psyche conjunct your DC.
Your NN oppose my Eros/Psyche.
My NN conjunct your Pallas.
My Vertex oppose your Sun/Mercury.

Interesting... and that's only in the Tropical synastry!

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posted September 22, 2010 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
This - to me- is Venus/PLUto (probably the square):

Yvonne Elliman - If I Can't Have You Lyrics

Send “If I Can't Have You” Ringtone to Your Cell

Don't know why I'm surviving every lonely day
When there's got to be no chance for me
My life would end and it doesn't matter how I cry
My tears of love are a waste of time
If I turn away am I strong enough to see it through
Go crazy is what I will do

* If I can't have you, I don't want nobody baby
If I can't have you ah ah, I can't have you
I don't want nobody baby, if I can't have you ah ah

Can't let go and it doesn't matter how I try
I gave it all so easily to you my love
To dreams that never will come true
Am I strong enough to see it through
Go crazy is what I will do
(Repeat * till fade)


From Jekyll and Hyde, my favourite duet:
Venus/PLuto (with a little bit of Neptune):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr7mu5RUNyk&playnext_from=QL&feature=bf_play&playnext=1

And from the musical "Dracula"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBU6J0ouc4w


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posted September 22, 2010 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
What would Poison by Beyonce be, DD, in your opinion?

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posted September 22, 2010 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I have one more portraying Plutonian love:


I wish there was a version with Gerard Butler on you tube (not available in Germany though):


(PHANTOM)
You have come here
in pursuit of
your deepest urge,
in pursuit of
that wish,
which till now
has been silent,
silent . . .

I have brought you,
that our passions
may fuse and merge -
in your mind
you've already
succumbed to me
dropped all defences
completely succumbed to me -
now you are here with me:
no second thoughts,
you've decided,
decided . . .

Past the point
of no return -
no backward glances:

the games we've played
till now are at
an end . . .
Past all thought
of "if" or "when" -
no use resisting:

abandon thought,
and let the dream
descend . . .

What raging fire
shall flood the soul?
What rich desire
unlocks its door?
What sweet seduction
lies before
us . . .?

Past the point
of no return,
the final threshold -
what warm,
unspoken secrets
will we learn?
Beyond the point
of no return . . .

AMINTA (CHRISTINE)
You have brought me
to that moment
where words run dry,
to that moment
where speech
disappears
into silence,
silence . . .

I have come here,
hardly knowing
the reason why . . .
In my mind,
I've already
imagined our
bodies entwining
defenceless and silent -
and now I am
here with you:

no second thoughts,

I've decided,
decided . . .

Past the point
of no return -
no going back now:

our passion-play
has now, at last,
begun . . .
Past all thought
of right or wrong -
one final question:

how long should we
two wait, before
we're one . . .?

When will the blood
begin to race
the sleeping bud
burst into bloom?
When will the flames,
at last, consume
us . . .?

BOTH
Past the point
of no return
the final threshold -
the bridge

is crossed, so stand
and watch it burn . . .
We've passed the point
of no return . . .

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posted September 22, 2010 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Is this dialogue, DD,or a song? If it is a song, how would I look it up on U tube?

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posted September 22, 2010 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
** Definition of Eros ..
Greek God of Love, Son of Aphrodite. Equivalent of the Latin God Cupid. A divinity of fertility. In Orphism Eros was born of the cosmic egg produced by Night. **

( ~ http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/eros.php ~ )

" Eros brings beauty, meaning and divinity into our lives. It comes to us through a very particular epiphany, a passionate inspiration present in a particular lover, teacher, melody, or landscape. We long to follow it always. . . ” --Harriet Eisman

" What is the god of love all about? The name itself is the ancient Greek word for erotic love, although its meaning is not necessarily sexual. Eros to the Greeks meant a merging of the souls in such a way that it created a lasting transformation. It can happen in any situation of great intimacy, emotional risk, taboo passion or creative expression. "
( ~ www.falconastrology.com ~ )
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based on that ..
hd music selection for 'eros' needs a rethink .. :-)

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posted September 22, 2010 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

not completely sure.
Moon-Pluto?
I was also thinking ASC or DESC in hard aspect to Pluto?

Buzt to be honest there is only ONE "Poison" to me, and this is it:

I think this is Eros/PLuto to me:#
(Or Mars/Pluto?)
Probably a sensual energy with Pluto and Saturn mixed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqDP9s06RYM

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posted September 22, 2010 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
The song was "Point of no return" from the musical "Phantom of the opera".

I think Eros is "the spark of creation / life" in its most primal sense:

This evokes passions in us that just do not care for any of the moral rules we established; Eros is not afraid of breaking taboos, as long as this "spark of passion" is being lit.
It propells us to complete transformation. to create something. Mostp robably our own life.
To accomplish that he needs to be stronger than anything else.

C`est tout.

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posted September 22, 2010 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
Phantom of the Opera dd?
"Music of the Night"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHAauiJwwmU

http://www.metrolyrics.com/music-of-the-night-lyrics-phantom-of-the-opera.html

Emmy Rossum reminds me of a gemini i dated a few times, Looks wise.

The Phantom tried to seduce her, she stayed for awhile.

Its different when you are flirting with darkness, Fun time and giggles.

Altogether different when you are born into it. Its life for you.

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posted September 22, 2010 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you DD

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posted September 22, 2010 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you (((Mblake))
Gonna listen to all this great music,later!

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posted September 22, 2010 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
google .. " hanne boel dark passions "

maybe there's a youtube or two ..

might be an eros tune in there .. or not ..

( i've yet to re-listen to the trax .. )
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'bolero' sounds more like 'lust' than 'eros' .. maybe both together :-))

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posted September 22, 2010 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know how some of you can associate Venus/Pluto with true love...

I have had it many times and I have Venus conjunct Pluto with someone right now very nicely aspected and I do not see this person as my true love. The feelings he arouses in me are actually like i'm too scared of him because he likes me too much. It's scary and I don't like feeling this way. In a way I feel bad for him because I don't feel the same.

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posted September 22, 2010 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Dangerous Game---Pluto/Venus---powerful DD
Dracula-----Excellent Pluto/Venus ,too

WOW --Poison-----Why do you put Saturn in there ,DD? Is it cuz he does not WANT to which could be Cap/Saturn?

AMAZING song, DD.
Thank you!
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posted September 22, 2010 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, "music of the night" - dreamy. Love it.


Rasperri,

noone every said that Venus-Pluto was true love, or at least I didn`t.

Actually I think that "true love" means something different for most people, probably dependent on their natals.

Example:
Do you think a Venus in Gemini conjunct Uranus and opposing Jupiter will call the same relationship/ feeling true love as someone with Venus in Cancer conjunct Moon and trine Neptune? or Someone with Venus in Leo squaring Mars-Pluto-conjunction in Scorpio?

I don`t think so.


Actually, for me personally, Venus-Pluto might actually BE true love, as Venus is the ruler of my 5th house of love / romance, and squares Pluto.

But then again, what you are scared of, I might be seeking.

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posted September 22, 2010 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
Well I'm a very 'Pluto' person I have Sun trine Pluto...

But I don't know. I feel that Venus/Mars connections are much more appealing and right to me...

Then again I have Venus/Mars ruling my relationship axis.

Still Venus/Pluto is scary.
Pluto is like dramatic type of attraction that comes with too much baggage. It's like way too powerful and overwhelming. And not in a good way.

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posted September 22, 2010 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
I think Venus and Pluto don't belong together. Her natural partner is Mars...

Pluto downgrades her best qualities, making her seem less than she is.

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posted September 22, 2010 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Man, you know what I think when I listen to all these Venus/Pluto songs?

I better have a GOOD sense of self before I start dealing with these Pluto/Venus energies

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posted September 22, 2010 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

yes, in "Poison" there is this extremely strong passion and desire, but they are putting the brakes on it. He sings: "I should not love" or something similiar, and this "should not" is definitely Saturn.
Also he describes her often with words that revolve around coolness, ice, being in the upper situation (because of his passion for her), holding back - all of that is Saturn.

PErsonally this mixture of Venus, Pluto and Saturn, maybe even including Mars and Eros is VERY appealing to me.
But what do you expect?
Venus in Cappy in 1st (Mars) house squaring Pluto.
Eros in Cancer in 8th house conjunct Saturn.
I guess this song would portray my "darker feelings" superbly.

Another thing that resonates SOOO much with me is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCZgtxJeNnA

This one came into my mind instantly, after I met a certain guy. Sometimes songs will spring up in my mind from somewhere, and often I didn`t even know I knew them. lol
In school after meeting a guy I developed a HEAVY crush on, suddenly the tune and lyrics to "Because I love you" came into my mind.


Anyway no clue why THIS song suddenly came into my mind. I am not even having a real crush on him .lol

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posted September 22, 2010 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Pluto is the higher octave of Mars.
Scorpio - Taurus is an axis.
Just like Aries - Libra.

Venus is Mars`s complimentary energy, cause they operate on the same level - interpersonal.
Whereas Pluto is operating from a transpersonal level.

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posted September 22, 2010 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Yes,"Poison" made me realize something big. I have been coming to this, anyway, with all my writing but THOSE passions ARE in humans.

It is not bad. It just is.

I see how a Venus/Pluto song is different than a Saturn/Venus/Pluto song.
THANK YOU, DD. You just added a big piece to my Astrological knowlege lol

PS The song Poison has Eros in there ,too and perhaps Mars as spices

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posted September 22, 2010 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
Pluto is more like a stalker type of energy...

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posted September 22, 2010 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Well, Pluto could be habanero pepper to Mars black pepper

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