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Topic: Eros
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meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 981 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 10:04 AM
DD,Wow. So strange what Eros evokes! I have to take another look at our synastry... This is my Eros: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S_R13jV11Q
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Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 10:09 AM
Ok, That helps ,DD, about "Too Lost in You" being Neptune /Venus---YES! Thank you, DD Well, Meta, Yes the British have it going on lol Well, to me "educated" in of itself does not do it. It is like a fluidity with words.
It is like a musician plays the guitar such as Eric Clapton but a man who uses words as his instrument. Do you know what I mean? There are not many of them like that out there but I ,always, know when I find one lol ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 981 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 10:13 AM
Holy moly, DD, we have some crazy aspects.Your Eros/Vertex conjunct my Venus/Chiron, and oppose my Saturn. Your Saturn conjunct my Pallas, oppose my Saturn. Your Moon/Psyche conjunct my IC. My Eros/Psyche conjunct your DC. Your NN oppose my Eros/Psyche. My NN conjunct your Pallas. My Vertex oppose your Sun/Mercury. Interesting... and that's only in the Tropical synastry!
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DD Knowflake Posts: 6250 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 10:20 AM
This - to me- is Venus/PLUto (probably the square):Yvonne Elliman - If I Can't Have You Lyrics Send “If I Can't Have You” Ringtone to Your Cell Don't know why I'm surviving every lonely day When there's got to be no chance for me My life would end and it doesn't matter how I cry My tears of love are a waste of time If I turn away am I strong enough to see it through Go crazy is what I will do * If I can't have you, I don't want nobody baby If I can't have you ah ah, I can't have you I don't want nobody baby, if I can't have you ah ah Can't let go and it doesn't matter how I try I gave it all so easily to you my love To dreams that never will come true Am I strong enough to see it through Go crazy is what I will do (Repeat * till fade) From Jekyll and Hyde, my favourite duet: Venus/PLuto (with a little bit of Neptune): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr7mu5RUNyk&playnext_from=QL&feature=bf_play&playnext=1
And from the musical "Dracula" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBU6J0ouc4w
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Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 10:24 AM
What would Poison by Beyonce be, DD, in your opinion?------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6250 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 10:29 AM
I have one more portraying Plutonian love: I wish there was a version with Gerard Butler on you tube (not available in Germany though):
(PHANTOM) You have come here in pursuit of your deepest urge, in pursuit of that wish, which till now has been silent, silent . . .
I have brought you, that our passions may fuse and merge - in your mind you've already succumbed to me dropped all defences completely succumbed to me - now you are here with me: no second thoughts, you've decided, decided . . . Past the point of no return - no backward glances: the games we've played till now are at an end . . . Past all thought of "if" or "when" - no use resisting: abandon thought, and let the dream descend . . . What raging fire shall flood the soul? What rich desire unlocks its door? What sweet seduction lies before us . . .? Past the point of no return, the final threshold - what warm, unspoken secrets will we learn? Beyond the point of no return . . . AMINTA (CHRISTINE) You have brought me to that moment where words run dry, to that moment where speech disappears into silence, silence . . . I have come here, hardly knowing the reason why . . . In my mind, I've already imagined our bodies entwining defenceless and silent - and now I am here with you: no second thoughts, I've decided, decided . . . Past the point of no return - no going back now: our passion-play has now, at last, begun . . . Past all thought of right or wrong - one final question: how long should we two wait, before we're one . . .? When will the blood begin to race the sleeping bud burst into bloom? When will the flames, at last, consume us . . .? BOTH Past the point of no return the final threshold - the bridge is crossed, so stand and watch it burn . . . We've passed the point of no return . . . IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 10:33 AM
Is this dialogue, DD,or a song? If it is a song, how would I look it up on U tube?------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Happy Dragon Knowflake Posts: 809 From: u.k. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 10:38 AM
** Definition of Eros .. Greek God of Love, Son of Aphrodite. Equivalent of the Latin God Cupid. A divinity of fertility. In Orphism Eros was born of the cosmic egg produced by Night. **( ~ http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/eros.php ~ ) " Eros brings beauty, meaning and divinity into our lives. It comes to us through a very particular epiphany, a passionate inspiration present in a particular lover, teacher, melody, or landscape. We long to follow it always. . . ” --Harriet Eisman " What is the god of love all about? The name itself is the ancient Greek word for erotic love, although its meaning is not necessarily sexual. Eros to the Greeks meant a merging of the souls in such a way that it created a lasting transformation. It can happen in any situation of great intimacy, emotional risk, taboo passion or creative expression. " ( ~ www.falconastrology.com ~ ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ based on that .. hd music selection for 'eros' needs a rethink .. :-) IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6250 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 10:43 AM
Ami,not completely sure. Moon-Pluto? I was also thinking ASC or DESC in hard aspect to Pluto? Buzt to be honest there is only ONE "Poison" to me, and this is it: I think this is Eros/PLuto to me:# (Or Mars/Pluto?) Probably a sensual energy with Pluto and Saturn mixed? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqDP9s06RYM IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6250 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 10:46 AM
The song was "Point of no return" from the musical "Phantom of the opera".I think Eros is "the spark of creation / life" in its most primal sense: This evokes passions in us that just do not care for any of the moral rules we established; Eros is not afraid of breaking taboos, as long as this "spark of passion" is being lit. It propells us to complete transformation. to create something. Mostp robably our own life. To accomplish that he needs to be stronger than anything else. C`est tout. IP: Logged |
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 433 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 10:48 AM
Phantom of the Opera dd? "Music of the Night" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHAauiJwwmU http://www.metrolyrics.com/music-of-the-night-lyrics-phantom-of-the-opera.html Emmy Rossum reminds me of a gemini i dated a few times, Looks wise. The Phantom tried to seduce her, she stayed for awhile. Its different when you are flirting with darkness, Fun time and giggles. Altogether different when you are born into it. Its life for you. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 10:51 AM
Thank you DD  ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 11:03 AM
Thank you (((Mblake)) Gonna listen to all this great music,later!------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Happy Dragon Knowflake Posts: 809 From: u.k. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 11:16 AM
google .. " hanne boel dark passions "maybe there's a youtube or two .. might be an eros tune in there .. or not .. ( i've yet to re-listen to the trax .. ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 'bolero' sounds more like 'lust' than 'eros' .. maybe both together :-)) IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 1175 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 11:44 AM
I don't know how some of you can associate Venus/Pluto with true love...I have had it many times and I have Venus conjunct Pluto with someone right now very nicely aspected and I do not see this person as my true love. The feelings he arouses in me are actually like i'm too scared of him because he likes me too much. It's scary and I don't like feeling this way. In a way I feel bad for him because I don't feel the same. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 11:45 AM
Dangerous Game---Pluto/Venus---powerful DD Dracula-----Excellent Pluto/Venus ,tooWOW --Poison-----Why do you put Saturn in there ,DD? Is it cuz he does not WANT to which could be Cap/Saturn? AMAZING song, DD. Thank you! ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6250 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 12:03 PM
Yeah, "music of the night" - dreamy. Love it. Rasperri,
noone every said that Venus-Pluto was true love, or at least I didn`t. Actually I think that "true love" means something different for most people, probably dependent on their natals. Example: Do you think a Venus in Gemini conjunct Uranus and opposing Jupiter will call the same relationship/ feeling true love as someone with Venus in Cancer conjunct Moon and trine Neptune? or Someone with Venus in Leo squaring Mars-Pluto-conjunction in Scorpio? I don`t think so. Actually, for me personally, Venus-Pluto might actually BE true love, as Venus is the ruler of my 5th house of love / romance, and squares Pluto. 
But then again, what you are scared of, I might be seeking. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 1175 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 12:06 PM
Well I'm a very 'Pluto' person I have Sun trine Pluto...But I don't know. I feel that Venus/Mars connections are much more appealing and right to me... Then again I have Venus/Mars ruling my relationship axis. Still Venus/Pluto is scary. Pluto is like dramatic type of attraction that comes with too much baggage. It's like way too powerful and overwhelming. And not in a good way. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 1175 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 12:09 PM
I think Venus and Pluto don't belong together. Her natural partner is Mars...Pluto downgrades her best qualities, making her seem less than she is. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 12:09 PM
Man, you know what I think when I listen to all these Venus/Pluto songs? I better have a GOOD sense of self before I start dealing with these Pluto/Venus energies  ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6250 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 12:11 PM
Ami,yes, in "Poison" there is this extremely strong passion and desire, but they are putting the brakes on it. He sings: "I should not love" or something similiar, and this "should not" is definitely Saturn. Also he describes her often with words that revolve around coolness, ice, being in the upper situation (because of his passion for her), holding back - all of that is Saturn. PErsonally this mixture of Venus, Pluto and Saturn, maybe even including Mars and Eros is VERY appealing to me. But what do you expect? Venus in Cappy in 1st (Mars) house squaring Pluto. Eros in Cancer in 8th house conjunct Saturn. I guess this song would portray my "darker feelings" superbly. Another thing that resonates SOOO much with me is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCZgtxJeNnA This one came into my mind instantly, after I met a certain guy. Sometimes songs will spring up in my mind from somewhere, and often I didn`t even know I knew them. lol In school after meeting a guy I developed a HEAVY crush on, suddenly the tune and lyrics to "Because I love you" came into my mind. Anyway no clue why THIS song suddenly came into my mind. I am not even having a real crush on him .lol
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DD Knowflake Posts: 6250 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2010 12:18 PM
Pluto is the higher octave of Mars. Scorpio - Taurus is an axis. Just like Aries - Libra.Venus is Mars`s complimentary energy, cause they operate on the same level - interpersonal. Whereas Pluto is operating from a transpersonal level. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 12:23 PM
Yes,"Poison" made me realize something big. I have been coming to this, anyway, with all my writing but THOSE passions ARE in humans. It is not bad. It just is. I see how a Venus/Pluto song is different than a Saturn/Venus/Pluto song. THANK YOU, DD. You just added a big piece to my Astrological knowlege lol PS The song Poison has Eros in there ,too and perhaps Mars as spices  ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 1175 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 12:28 PM
Pluto is more like a stalker type of energy...IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2010 12:35 PM
Well, Pluto could be habanero pepper to Mars black pepper------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |