posted September 30, 2010 03:46 AM            

Jane
I appreciate what you said so much!!! I am paralleling you. Right now, I have a relationship where I am NOT taking care of the guy i.e throwing myself away to get approval.

If there is one criterion I want, it is "real"
This guy CAN be real.
It takes the other person to be a real person, too.
However, I KNOW what you are saying, Jane. I would not have before this.

You are so wise for someone so young!!!!!

posted September 30, 2010 04:07 AM            

Maybe a Libra Pluto is very penetrating/intense when it comes to relationships. Forming life-long bonds is important for your generation. So maybe the equivalent of attracting a Plutonian type who degrades you in some way - would be attracting someone who gives you a bad reputation at work or affects your career in a negative manner because of their belief that you are superficial and ignoring the depth of human2human interaction in favour of your career.

posted September 30, 2010 04:16 AM            

I am gonna think on it more and come back.
I know ,inside, that you are on to something.

My Venus is unaspected so it can go where it wants without interference from another planet.

I can relate to it being a Princess. I will sleep on it and come back.

Lonake, it is fascinating how the opposition could be harder than the square.
That is an amazing concept. I am wondering if in synastry, the opposition may be easier but in natal the opposition may be harder.

Just a thought.
In synastry, you have two people,obviously.
Perhaps, the opposition is easier/less contentious than the square.

The opposition may be less enmeshed. There could be more distance between the two sides cuz they are opposite lol

With the square, they could be on "top of each other" --so to speak, no gap to meet the other person in the middle.

posted September 30, 2010 08:45 AM            

Reclaiming Venus is re-claiming your love nature and being free to use it as you see fit, without inordinate fear.

I shut down my love nature or only used it for safe people like children.

I was not strong enough to love even IF i got rejected.
That is my goal,now.

I want to be able to give the love I want and be able to weather any rejection that comes as a result.

Rejection will come cuz people and life are unpredictable.
My goal, and it is prolly a long range and hard one, is to love freely without inordinate concern for love coming back.

It, always does, anyway,cuz there is the law of sowing and reaping lol

posted September 30, 2010 11:29 AM            

They were never physically violent around me, and I removed myself from the situation when it became obvious to them that were upsetting me, only for them to work harder and harder to get results (odd priorities they had there ). Thinking of that, I now wish I'd been mean enough to send them postcards from California: a postcard from Monterey, when I'd spent the weekend there, another from a small town up North, in which we were able to visit the beach morning and evening... but I wasn't that mean. I got out of there, and I had help in doing so - the school board supported me, as well as my mother.

Sometimes I wonder how I came across to them - and others since then. Before that, in another school, I garnered respect from the other kids and they ended up liking me. (That's when we moved, yet again.)

I have also attracted unwanted attention, but when I was dressed up nicely, I had experiences like two men both jumping in from each side, to open a door for me, a beautiful smile from a huge biker guy, that I received after accidentally smiling in his direction, after my sister made me laugh... the big difference on those days wasn't just my clothes, but I didn't feel self-conscious. My attention was on other things - like hoping that World War III wasn't going to break out between certain family members, as we all had a visit on neutral ground (McDonalds).

posted September 30, 2010 02:16 PM            

I think you carry yourself with great respect. You have a highly ethical character. Other people know that you hold yourself to high standards and values.

As such, more frivilous people, you could say, may be intimidated cuz they know you won't do things like gossip.

I think you judge whether someone is worthy of your friendship . Then ,you will be a loyal "do or die" friend.

You would not betray the person or sell them out for a silly reason.

To gain your friendship, someone would have to be special.

People who cannot aspire to that ,leave you alone.

posted September 30, 2010 02:34 PM            

I used to receive a lot of sexually-suggestive attention, that scared me a little (given how some men can be, when they're like that), and made me uncomfortable, just because I didn't want to be seen that way - as a sex object.

posted October 01, 2010 10:12 AM            

However, I saw something really big when I did the chart for Wink.
It was a turning point for me. I feel reluctant to write about it cuz it may seem self aggrandizing or silly.

However, it was important for me so I want to tell you.

My OWN love nature was squished. I thought I could only love "A" man or "A" child or a friend,if I trusted them enough

I never realized that I can refine my OWN love nature.
IOW, My living in a state of love is not dependent on another person.

It is within myself. I have the freedom to develop my own love nature as I see fit.

When I do that, it waters me back. That is the Law of Love or Law of Sowing and Reaping.

When Wink told me she cried when I spent time on her chart, something in me came back : a dead part : my own love nature awakened in a new way : really an old way coming back to life.

I hope to have the man I love be someone who is a real love. The Bible says that God will give you the desires of your heart.

That is mine.

posted October 05, 2010 10:23 PM            

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I'll have you know, I utter sweet nothings only when I'm naked.

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I’ve seen porn movies start out like this

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What are bridging planets? Would they be planets that harmoniously aspect the planets in opposition?
I think what also helps is a separate disposition that can battle the Venus-Pluto one.
For instance, you also have a strong Neptune influence. That outlook's v. different from Pluto's. Mars & Neptune in your 7th could give you the desire for a relationship where egos are surrendered enough for a beautiful, caring relationship to develop.

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Well actually – the Mars/Neptune conjunction bridges my Venus/Pluto opposition. So I had my Neptunian streak in my mind when I wrote that lol Read my mind!
Mars/Neptune are in early Capricorn – sextile Pluto and trine Venus. Jupiter/MC/Karma are in Pisces trine Pluto – and sextile Venus.

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I'd read Corinthians and aspire to be like that when in love.

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I do like the Corinthians though there’s that Cappy streak in me that wants to turn it into comic relief lol
But I like the message. My Neptunian side is very very different to this Venus-Pluto tug of war.
Apart from whatever sexual or control issues I may have – I have a genuine affection for other people/animals in general whether they are male, female, intersex or whatever else.
And that basic affection wins over many times in my life.
So I see my Venus/Pluto as relatively “tame” – in comparison to other people I’ve encountered with this opposition. But it’s interesting because I can completely understand these people – I have the exact same feelings/urges and drives. I just rein them in more.

The opposition man I mentioned – also a Taurus (my boss) – is a perfect example of Venus/Pluto gone bad.
It adversely affects the people around him.
For instance – he doesn’t “flirt” – he “attacks”. For him flirting is a way to attack women (whom he is in a position of authority over) and make them uncomfortable and anxious.

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Ultimately, I value emotional excitement and honesty over safe, stagnant lies.

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