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popcorn
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posted October 11, 2010 05:03 PM
 
Britterfly. You must work with your feelings. It's no joke. That man you talk about have you losed. You know that. Your feelings and the anger will be worse when transit pluto be in square to your venus/mars in aries. Try to leave him in your thoughts. Maybe you have the inner capacity to make the change without help. I don't know but you must use all your power you have to change your self. Do not be afraid to get help from someone professional if you want to change your life on a positive way. It be an investment for a good future. IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted October 11, 2010 05:41 PM
I've been a psychological mess for the past 3 months now, since Saturn transitted signs. I'm visiting my parents right now in the town where I grew up, so now I am dealing with the epitome of my psychosis. I don't know what I want any more. I am at a spot now where I could work toward my goal of buying some land, but I don't even want to do that any more. My aspirations have now all changed. My throat chakra has been blocked all my life, and as of the past 3 months I've been literally FEELING it. I have discovered I am carrying around this spirit of fear that is focused around my throat and heart chakra. When I settle down and breathe and meditate on it, I can literally feel this fear emanating around those two chakras, mostly the throat. I've been crying a lot, and I realized crying doesn't achieve a damned thing. This situation with this stupid guy has just brought to the forefront of my attention that these things are going on with me. My feelings around him are just some kind of horrible byproduct of a larger issue I have within myself. I've been praying to God about it but havn't gotten any answers really. Before all of this happened, I was as confident as could be, self-contained, and awesome. I rocked at life. Now I feel lost and all shattered up inside and without any direction. What the hell is going on???? Is it Venus in retrograde???? All of these emotions going on inside me and occurrences outside of me seem to be going hand in hand with everything happening astrologically. IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted October 11, 2010 05:48 PM
Diana, just stop responding please. The negative energy you bring just makes my asking for help on this in to a frustrating process instead of a healing process.IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted October 11, 2010 06:15 PM
britterfly. It's better to leave this man and work on your future. You can try to be his friend again about earliest a year. You must meet him without anger. Talk to him like a friend... Work on your self and be kind to your self. Help your self and do everything good to your self. Be your best friend and not judge your self to hard. Work on your life and see this events like a big mistake and put the blunder right after a year or so.. Do never make the same mistake again..Think about your self as the most important individual in this life. Be care of you. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted October 11, 2010 06:17 PM
 Popcorn
You are so dear!------------------
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Lonake
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posted October 11, 2010 06:31 PM
Transiting Pluto is going over your natal Neptune, shattering a lot of illusions. So it's showing you that you have to face real life now, in the realm of self worth (2nd) you have to face that your image that you had of yourself was not reality.
Transiting Saturn is opp your natal Mars and transiting Pluto is sq your natal Mars, and this can bring a ton of frustration, but Cardinal energy is great for getting things in motion.
So you can either make all this energy work for you or against you. But if you're engaging in self destructive behavior, maybe you need to, just to get it out of your system if it feels too overwhelming. Or maybe watch violent films to live vicariously through it, or go into boxing or martial arts, some sport such as that. Or if you train you can challenge yourself physically to keep beating your last best score or what-have-you, just do something to get that energy out.About the synastry, I will say your Pluto/Saturn on his Asc like you say, opp his Sun, this could be a big factor for you seeming like you hem him in and he could see you as being controlling. Very controlling. So he's likely rebelling against that.
If you two hadnt had a violent episode, I still would think he'd be wary around you because to him you could have a very oppressive energy, something that you don't even notice, but to him it stands out cos its right on his Asc, and he could feel like the one who needs to come out on top in the matter, even though to you it seems that youve done nothing to warrant that behavior in him. So it's nothing you did initially, it's more in how he perceives you, and part of you may have wanted to control that perception, to make sure he saw you in a different light, but you couldn't/can't. I'm sure there are other people you have great synastry with, or will be soon, so he's not the only one out there. IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted October 11, 2010 06:46 PM
Oh, it's so true. This is why I love astrology. It brings to light those factors which you'd like to just ignore. Damn but if the rest of our synastry isn't just beautiful. I guess I feel it a lot more than he does.The Neptune thing is spot on. I am seeing all of my fears and how my perception of reality is out of wack with... the.. reality of reality? You know what I'm saying. I feel like the whole world is this miserable little box right now where I can't achieve anything I dream of. I guess I should just make my resume and stay here and get that money. Completely off topic... when the hell is money going to stop being such a pivotal factor in existence? It's retarded. People should be allowed to focus on more spiritual and lively matters and living up to their deepest and most colorful potential... not making enough to survive or get stuff. IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted October 11, 2010 06:50 PM
Is there a website where I can find out my Nessus and Dejanira? It sounds pretty interesting. I love asteroids.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted October 11, 2010 07:05 PM
No, I think it's completely on-topic, as it pertains to your chart.
You have Pluto transiting the 2nd in Capricorn, Saturn looks to rule your 2nd and its in the house of spirituality 12th, conj the Asc.
Pluto going through the 2nd will alter dramatically your perception of wealth/personal resources. It could solidify what you're talking about regarding spiritual endeavor and you could find yourself taking that side of life very seriously soon as a way to gain sure and confident self worth.
Pluto rules Scorpio, which again rules your 12th, so this could be doubly important.
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britterfly
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posted October 11, 2010 07:54 PM
You're awesome, Lonake. Thank you.I am rather floored by how kind you guys have been and so very helpful and empathetic to my whiney ass. Writing all of this down and getting feedback in such a kind way has helped me get over a lot of crap really fast, surprisingly. I just made my resume, which I have been putting off for weeks. I suppose I'll stick with my original plan to make money so I can get what I need in the physical world, but I am definitely not holding money as an important thing to me personally; it's just necessary to exist within Babylon. ugh. Babylon. You suck. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 11, 2010 07:58 PM
The Taureans I know, will avoid you until they think you've calmed down - although I'm not sure if this one would get past violence (I'm sorry - I'm only skimming so far).  IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted October 11, 2010 08:00 PM
Ugh, the procrastination hang-up..that's another Mars/Saturn side-effect lol.
Sounds great 
I have natal Mars conj Saturn,
and I find that the way to get things done that I've been procrastinating on, is to set a even bigger "to do" on my list, so that I get the other stuff done as I now have a new, more intimidating prospect on my hands  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted October 11, 2010 08:10 PM
Where is your Mars, Briterfly? Sorry,if I missed it.------------------
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britterfly
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posted October 11, 2010 08:21 PM
My mars is in Aries. It is one degree away from my Venus. I guess that makes me a sexual dynamo! LOL!!!!!! I get hit on constantly. It's gross. It is absolutely no reflection of my inner being, which is observative and intellectual. I guess that's the Aquarius and Neptune conjuncting my second house. I don't know. I'm just guessing.You guys are being so nice to me. Thank you. I needed this. IP: Logged |
Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
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posted October 12, 2010 01:35 AM
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The Taureans I know, will avoid you until they think you've calmed down - although I'm not sure if this one would get past violence (I'm sorry - I'm only skimming so far)
The ones I know pretty much act like the guy here. They will treat you like $hit until YOU decide you've had enough. Must be my Mars in Taurus, but they can get really nasty in my sphere. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted October 12, 2010 02:06 AM
So, you have Venus in Aries, too, I assume?------------------
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Nine
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posted October 12, 2010 02:09 AM
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Betty Boop
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posted October 12, 2010 02:32 AM
Britter - My best friend is a Pisces girl with Venus/Mars conjunct in Aries -- and my bf also has Venus/Mars conj in Aries. You were probably born around the same time as him - since this conj is opposite his Libra Pluto. (This is not the same guy I mentioned earlier btw - my bf has a close relationship with his dad and has not been abused, which goes to show you how similar placements/aspects can have different manifestations). This Ven/Mars conj in Aries is definitely intense!
I love it personally, but I'm biased - my Sun is Aries.
For some reason I've had problems with Aries Venus men in the past - but when they have *both* Venus and Mars in Aries - it's an entirely different story. I just love these people.
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My mars is in Aries. It is one degree away from my Venus. I guess that makes me a sexual dynamo! LOL!!!!!! I get hit on constantly.
I'm not surprised. This always happens with my best friend  Do you have a love of motorbikes by any chance? She has been riding since she was very young and she also got me into it - because she is so passionate about motorbikes that it's infectious LOL IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted October 12, 2010 02:32 AM
Sorry to go off topic  IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted October 12, 2010 02:16 PM
Damn it Betty, if you go off topic one more time, POW strait to the moon!!teehee =P I am not in to motorbikes, only because I never really gave them a chance. My friend next door when I was a little girl had one, and he used to take me for rides on it and i LOVED it. Why do you suspect there is a link between that and a love of motorbikes? Is it just a guess? It would be interesting if there were.... Venus in Aries, yes. By the way, about the other dude being abused by his dad... Is his Mars in his fourth house??? Mars in the fourth house indicates a turbulent home life as a child with a lot of fighting with the father. It also signifies a physically active later life. Also, what is the relationship between the sun and the moon? When square, they also signify an emotional wrought and hurtful childhood in which the parents essentially reject the child, making the child in to something of an emotional basketcase all it's poor leedle life. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted October 12, 2010 07:17 PM
Hey! quote:
Damn it Betty, if you go off topic one more time, POW strait to the moon!!
LOL
I'll take my chances quote:
Why do you suspect there is a link between that and a love of motorbikes? Is it just a guess?
Well I was thinking maybe Aries = speed = motorbikes.. and since Venus shows what we love...
The guy who was abused by his dad has Sun and Moon both in Pisces but not conjunct by degree. He was never completely sure of his time of birth. But my hunch is his AC would be Saggy OR Aquarius... which means it is possible for his Taurus Mars to end up in the 4th house.
His mother was/is very Piscean in behaviour. She is very kind to everyone but a bit too weak when it comes to asserting herself. She cares about him a lot but for whatever reason she never intervened to help him - and she never broke up with his father, which is very hurtful in itself.
His father is more like the dark side of Pisces - the psychotic side that loses all touch with reality. You could say living with his father - was like living in a nightmare, and since Neptune/Pisces rules dreams and nightmares - he may have interpreted his father as negative to the point of being 'surreal'. He reacted by detaching from this nightmare-ish reality - and escaping through drugs. We all have defence mechanisms.
About Sun square Moon - I do have this myself. I even have a Capricorn Moon to boot lol But my relationship with basically all my relatives is very good. I had a very happy childhood up until certain deaths in my family which shook me up a lot.
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