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Ami Anne
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posted October 18, 2010 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Jane, You Rock

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lechien
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posted October 18, 2010 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
WOW, yea that REALLY hit it, jane, i feel like i put on eyeglasses for the first time!

tr. Pluto has been going over my 1st house, as you see, and it has been a very transformational period since 5-6 years. that's true the importance of my Mercury in the areas of relating with others and situating self, and of course the tr. Pluto finally hovering over it back and forth HAS TO have a major impact!

wow, this has been a real eye-opener for me. thanks so much everyone! now i shouldn't be fearful of uncertainty and vague fear, because you guys pointed to me what's up.

being tough is not my way of dealing with things. BUT even in dealing with these room mates, in the end i DID have to show them my tough side and make them shut up. it was scary and felt very strange because i felt like i was someone else. but they could not penetrate my firmness because in the back of their heads they knew they were the guilty ones. so now i think i have to learn not to be hurt by the experiences like these. because as opposed to being let down and humiliated as i felt, i am actually evolving, getting better!

wow, i really feel much more confident now. this was really lovely. thank you sooo much guys!!!!

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Ami Anne
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posted October 18, 2010 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message

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being tough is not my way of dealing with things. BUT even in dealing with these room mates, in the end i DID have to show them my tough side and make them shut up. it was scary and felt very strange because i felt like i was someone else. but they could not penetrate my firmness because in the back of their heads they knew they were the guilty ones. so now i think i have to learn not to be hurt by the experiences like these. because as opposed to being let down and humiliated as i felt, i am actually evolving, getting better!


You've just described a Pluto moment

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Ami Anne
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posted October 18, 2010 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
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lechien
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posted October 18, 2010 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
ah ha! really? i should keep an eye open for this sort of situations and keep track of my Pluto lesson progress!

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Lara
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posted October 18, 2010 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Why is that a pluto moment? lol

Pluto doesn't even rule a sign!

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jane
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posted October 18, 2010 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, stop.

lechien -

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so now i think i have to learn not to be hurt by the experiences like these.

Yes, exactly! Until the transformation is complete, you're going to feel uncomfortable. Using your Pluto will hurt. But once you've grown into your new way of being, the accompanying pain will disappear.

You're not going to lose your loving nature. Pluto's just helping you empower yourself so that your good & kind disposition will be on truth's side.

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lechien
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posted October 18, 2010 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
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Until the transformation is complete, you're going to feel uncomfortable. Using your Pluto will hurt. But once you've grown into your new way of being, the accompanying pain will disappear.

that was REALLY encouraging to read. yes this discomfort is super tough. it makes me feel good to know that i will be able to come out as a person who no longer have to feel that pain. thank you jane!

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Ami Anne
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posted October 18, 2010 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
The birth of my Pluto is hard. Neptune is easy for me but Pluto is another story.
I have the same aspects with each but Neptune's are trines and Pluto's are sextiles.

Neptune has Mercury and Sun trine it.
Pluto has Mercury and Sun sextile it.

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popcorn
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posted October 19, 2010 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
lechien: you feeling bad about these abusers hating you? enviousness are always mixed up. I've so much experience from the life and people so I'm 100 percent complete sure.

Thanks transit pluto and karma conj your house 7 ruler merk. Thank also transit uranus in square to your sun. Your house 11 rules by uranus. Uranus always brings out falseness and also people.

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bonadea33
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posted October 19, 2010 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Why you all are looking only transits?

When my health was worse, I didn't find solution in transits, especially not in transits of the fast planets (they come and go).

I found it in my progressed Mars.
Why nobody here uses Secondary Progressions?

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Ami Anne
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posted October 19, 2010 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Popcorn
You seem to have a strong Mars and Pluto, do you?

Hi Bobbie
I don't know how to look at transits
Just wanted to say I was thinking of you!!!

Lechien
For many woman, accessing their Pluto/Mars is hard.
Woman have been taught to be "nice" and not angry or "aggressive"
That has hampered us, IMO.

Men have a harder time with the gentle emotions of love and caring, it seems(Venus and the moon)

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lechien
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posted October 19, 2010 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
popcorn, i'm really not sure if it had anything to do with envy, if it was, very little. these people wanted me to be the "wrong" one. some thick skins they have, to move into my flat and use my stuff and abuse my generosity and attempt to make me believe i mistreated them! not many flats are as laid back and open-minded as mine, that i hear.

bonadea, my progressed Mars is in the 7th house, square Chiron in the 4th, and also in opposition with my progressed Sun/Venus in the 1st. that does explain something!

Ami, i never thought one has to be "aggressive" to create understanding! if something is not right, i say it friendlily, and think that people are not dumb and get it. but it's not always the case! some people mistake "niceness" as "weakness" and try to undermine it. it's hard.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 19, 2010 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Pluto is 'Talk softly but carry a big stick

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lechien
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posted October 19, 2010 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
AHAHA! i like that one! ok i'll go pick up my stick now.

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popcorn
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posted October 19, 2010 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
"You seem to have a strong Mars and Pluto, do you?"

Ami. I've no aspect between mars and pluto.

my venus conj N.N conj mars trine saturn.

My merk conj uranus conj kaali conj pluto. Yes I see my word sting and often I see after a while how it looks like. That's because english not my mother tongue.

The strongest in my chart are my Sun conj AC in leo conj Draco karma Sun conj AC also in exact parallel.

My next strongest are my saturn in house 8 in pisces. I think I've aspect from almost everything in my chart to saturn.


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Ami Anne
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posted October 19, 2010 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Popcorn,once you insulted me but I chalked it up to the language barrier

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lechien
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posted October 19, 2010 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
it's also because it's all text. it's hard to express feelings with it, i've seen so many misunderstandings because of that!

but still, bless this age of global communication in one instant! i love it.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 19, 2010 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, you can FEEL if someone is trying to insult you, usually .
I know my girl,Popcorn would never do that to me lol

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Ami Anne
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posted October 19, 2010 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, you can FEEL if someone is trying to insult you, usually .
I know my girl,Popcorn would never do that to me lol

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